Would you want to sign Dak if he wasn't a Cowboy?

Buzzbait

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No, absolutely not. Certainly not for the kind of money he demands. He'll never be worth what he demands.
 

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So if he was better you would right?? The going rate for QBs these days are this amount for a good one. Either way you're going to pay
hmm.... the going rate for a good QB is 60 million per? So who is making 60 million per?
 

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For the humpteenth time, no team with Dak under center is ever winning a SB. I wouldn’t sign him to a 10 cent contract.
Expecting him to be fix his physical & mental flaws after the age of 31 isn't something a rational adult would put any faith into. Why so many people are paralyzed by the fear of losing a player who has never performed at an inspiring level against adverstity is beyond me.
 

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No one thinks he’s irreplaceable. He’s just the best option right now and near term.
In terms of play, sure. He's better than Rush. He's better than Lance. And there is no one sitting on their couch waiting for a call that is better.

But you then have to weigh this against the reality that the Cowboys are likely staring at handing Dak the highest contract in NFL history. It's understandable why some people choke on that.
 

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In terms of play, sure. He's better than Rush. He's better than Lance. And there is no one sitting on their couch waiting for a call that is better.

But you then have to weigh this against the reality that the Cowboys are likely staring at handing Dak the highest contract in NFL history. It's understandable why some people choke on that.
He’s the franchise QB in his prime coming off the best year of his career. Get all you can out of him.
 

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Most teams resign their Franchise QB unless they have a heir apparent in place, nearing the end of their careers and or consistently not making playoffs.

It’s a short list this era on teams trading or letting them walk.

I understand Cowboy fans are frustrated with performance in playoffs but the alternatives aren’t any more favorable .

Cowboys need to begin drafting QB’s so they are in a better position to make the decision to move on.
 

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It’s exceedingly difficult especially when you rarely ever try.

It’s like trying to get pregnant without even trying to find a mate.
We haven’t needed to try in the last eight years because we’ve had such a good QB. When we got Dak, we tried. We tried trading back into the first round for Paxton Lynch, and thank goodness we weren’t able to. We tried trading up for Connor Cook in that same draft and luckily we couldn’t do it because he didn’t last very long in the league. We couldn’t have gotten any luckier than we did with Dak. If he walks after this season, we may be in a position where we’re having to burn a first round pick every three or four years to find his replacement. It’s a real setback when those first round QBs don’t turn out. It can be very frustrating as a fan watching your team missing the playoffs year after year trying to find a QB. Sure, we could end up getting real lucky again within a year or two, but it’s not real likely. We could be reliving the early 2000s all over again after this season.
 

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Grass is always greener

Dak is a starter on at least 16 teams....if he could be had for 30 mil a year he would be a bargain for many
 

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It's still 6 regular season games including 5 games in the same season. The Cowboys went 5-1 with Rush under centre. Do I consider Rush the answer? Of course not, but my point is relevant as it answers those who claim the coaching is poor and/or the roster is weak. How can that be the case when the team went 5-1 with a practice squad quarterback and beat a couple of good teams including the Bengals (with Burrow) who reached the SuperBowl just over 6 months beforehand?

So the reason why it's relevant to raise is well Prescott has a good winning record during the regular season (as does Rush with a far smaller sample size) yet falls flat on his face in the post season. In my view a top 5 QB wins both of the play off games against the 49ers and a top 10 paid QB has to win one of those games. Prescott had enough drives in both games to get it done at least once yet he was unable to execute in the clutch.

The loss against Green Bay was more on the defense but Prescott effectively handed them 14 points in the first half!

Why on earth would a team with Superbowl aspirations pay him elite money when he has clearly illustrated over the past 8 seasons that he is not an elite NFL quarterback?
Very good points.
There's a coach out there, though, that thinks they can coach Dak to the next level.
It hasn't happened in Big D yet.
 

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Would you want to sign Dak to a $60 million per year contract if he wasn't a Cowboy and was coming from another Team?
I have a hard time seeing a fanbase being stoked to get Dak on that pricetag and preventing your team from signing many FA's and players due to taking so much of the cap.
Dak is known throughout the league/fanbases as a good but unaccomplished QB who doesn't put a team on his back and can carry them.
He will face just as much if not more from the fans of any team he goes to than he does in Dallas. Like us, they will be brutal if he is paid all that money and nothing comes of it.
Hell no
 

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Would you want to sign Dak to a $60 million per year contract if he wasn't a Cowboy and was coming from another Team?
I have a hard time seeing a fanbase being stoked to get Dak on that pricetag and preventing your team from signing many FA's and players due to taking so much of the cap.
Dak is known throughout the league/fanbases as a good but unaccomplished QB who doesn't put a team on his back and can carry them.
He will face just as much if not more from the fans of any team he goes to than he does in Dallas. Like us, they will be brutal if he is paid all that money and nothing comes of it.
If I was a Jets fan, I would be excited to switch out old man Rogers for Dak.

I mean, Rogers totally shredded his knee and ghosted the whole Jets organization all summer.

The Jets were just a nice payday for Rogers and nothing else, and that is exactly the way he is treating them.

So yeah, the Jets would probably swap Rogers for Dak right now if given the chance.

But this is all just a hypothetical, so who really knows.
 

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Dak is good enough to get you to the playoffs but he's not excellent enough to win you a championship. Doubt that will ever change
Here are the active QBs with Super Bowl rings:
Mahomes (3)
Stafford (1)
Wilson (1)
Flacco (1)
Rodgers (1)

Mahomes is the only with 1+ and the only that any team would build around.

So nobody outside of Mahomes is worth any money if we go by likelihood to win a championship.
 

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Here are the active QBs with Super Bowl rings:
Mahomes (3)
Stafford (1)
Wilson (1)
Flacco (1)
Rodgers (1)

Mahomes is the only with 1+ and the only that any team would build around.

So nobody outside of Mahomes is worth any money if we go by likelihood to win a championship.
If Wilson could be had for 10 million, maybe 15 at the most; or Flacco for 5 million and we allocated the rest of the resources to the trenches specifically the run game and stopping the run we would be a better team.

I would be cool going into 2025 with Wilson or Flacco and drafting the heir QB and bolstering the roster while we groom the next QB.

I feel we would not be a good team if we pay Dak the highest ever and Micah the highest defensive player ever. We’ll be 3 or 4 superstars and bottom feeder supporting cast.

I would like to rent out Wilson for a season, pay him no more than 10 or 15, resign Lamb, trade Micah, let Dak walk, use a 1st in ‘25 or ‘26 draft (the Micah pick) to draft a QB, resign Bland, reboot the salary cap and then go from there. I feel having a few superstars but not a complete team is nice when we play the Giants or Panthers but sucks when we play playoff teams, especially in the playoffs.
 

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I must admit I'm beginning to enjoy a artistic PICK 6 :facepalm:
 

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Some players are harder to replace than others. Dak would be very difficult to replace. If we end up with a bad QB situation, it won’t matter who we add to this team at other positions we’re not going to get very far.
That's true but you have to realize that the Cowboys will be a weaker team than in years past. They will slip down to a 8-9 win team and surely won't win a playoff game.
No depth on defense and Lamb, Parsons and Dak taking all the money. One of them has to go. You get rid of Lamb and Dak is really going to struggle. Gettubg rid of Parsons would be just stupid. He is a generational player you build the defense around. Getting rid of Dak would be the lesser of all the evils. The 49ers have shown that you pay the team and and rotate QBs. They were beating Dallas with Jimmy G. That says a lot.
 
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