WOW, did you zoners hear Nate Newton yesterday on Pat McQuistan?

[DaBoys4Life]

I'm sorry that you think we have to have, or are able to have, the position where we're stacked everywhere on the team

and McQ wouldn't start at OG in case of injury, Proctor is starting at LG in Kosier's absence for a bit, and Berger would probably be 1st in line at RG, and Montrae Holland will probably take over at LG soon, Free is the backup LT, Proctor at C

I don't like the idea of Proctor starting at LG either or did you forget how he did once Gurode went down.

The NFL is about survival its not fair and its cruel and if you can't perform then thats it for you. Where stacked at TE CB and RB. Maybe after this season they cowboys will finally decide that its time to let go of some of these developmental guys cuz they aint developing into anything.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

look at the edit

and Fonoti hasn't stuck w/ a team for more than 2 years, yet you want him??



no, what's too much to ask is you being patient and realistic

I can't ask much of the guy who thinks that Matt Jones over Patrick Crayton anyways



they saw the field as corners and special teamers

Oglesby, not so much

I think if Matt Jones was on the Cowboys and Crayton was on the Jags you would have never heard about Crayton and Jones would be a top tier WR.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I think if Matt Jones was on the Cowboys and Crayton was on the Jags you would have never heard about Crayton and Jones would be a top tier WR.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

laugh it up if you want to. However I think Romo is better than garrad and leftwich and Jones size and speed opposite TO and Witten would be something special.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

laugh it up if you want to. However I think Romo is better than garrad and leftwich and Jones size and speed opposite TO and Witten would be something special.

have you watched Matt JOnes play? because he certainly doesn't run like his 4.39 40 suggests

he's so fast that Patrick Crayton has 2 more pass plays longer than Jones' longest, and averages less yards per catch for his career than Crayton does

 

[DaBoys4Life]

have you watched Matt JOnes play? because he certainly doesn't run like his 4.39 40 suggests

he's so fast that Patrick Crayton has 2 more pass plays longer than Jones' longest, and averages less yards per catch for his career than Crayton does

I'm sure he doesn't. I think their offense is a little different than ours. Besides I don't think Garrad throws the ball down field as much as Romo nor does he have the YPC average that Romo has.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I'm sure he doesn't. I think their offense is a little different than ours. Besides I don't think Garrad throws the ball down field as much as Romo nor does he have the YPC average that Romo has.

or maybe Crayton is just plain better?

I thought you were about results, not excuses?

 

[DaBoys4Life]

or maybe Crayton is just plain better?

I thought you were about results, not excuses?

Not excuse fact.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Not excuse fact.

no, the fact is that Crayton plays faster than Matt Jones

 

[Stash]

look at the edit

and Fonoti hasn't stuck w/ a team for more than 2 years, yet you want him?? his former coach obviousy doesn't even want him

Maybe he does and he's getting overruled by people who don't want to admit failure? Seems like coaches have been arguing over players quite a bit lately.

At one time, Fonoti was considered 'the next Larry Allen' and one of the league's best young players. Where? In San Diego, working with line coach Hudson Houck. The guy has had soem struggles but has apparently worked hard to put them behind him - and he's still just 26 years old.

no, what's too much to ask is you being patient and realistic

Sorry if others of us don't share your 'patience' or tolerance for ineptitude.

I can't ask much of the guy who thinks that Matt Jones over Patrick Crayton anyways

Really?

This is what you've got?

Pathetic and off-topic.

they saw the field as corners and special teamers

Oglesby, not so much

Yeah, unfortunately for both the Cowboys and all of us. That's the point.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Maybe he does and he's getting overruled by people who don't want to admit failure? Seems like coaches have been arguing over players quite a bit lately.

ah, the "no evidence" argument

At one time, Fonoti was considered 'the next Larry Allen' and one of the league's best young players. Where? In San Diego, working with line coach Hudson Houck. The guy has had soem struggles but has apparently worked hard to put them behind him - and he's still just 26 years old.

alot of people are labled the next so and so, and don't pan out

the fact is, he hasn't stuck anywhere and his fat *** is blowing in the wind, and even better yet, we trade a 5th for Holland, rather than bring in a guy, and not give up a pick, that our expert Oline coach is familiar w/

Sorry if others of us don't share your 'patience' or tolerance for ineptitude.

it's reality

some young players are going to look bad, but the Cowboys made a decision then to develop these players and are sticking w/ it, it's just sad that you don't understand that pretty, simple concept

Really?

This is what you've got?

Pathetic and off-topic.

just going by your history of throwing names against the wall and not really know what you're talking about, so it's quite applicable given the situation, as once again, you're throwing names against the wall

Yeah, unfortunately for both the Cowboys and all of us. That's the point.

we aren't going to be regretting cutting Ogelsby, sorry, we're not, we did nothing but improve our special teams by getting rid of him

 

[Big Dakota]

For the record, Mark Tuinei didn't start a game until his 4th year when he was 26. Sometimes, for guys at this level, it comes down to opportunity. Maybe McQ should have seized this opportunity, then again maybe he's a true OT?

 

[Stash]

ah, the "no evidence" argument

File it next to the 'McQuistan is a small-school project' excuse.

alot of people are labled the next so and so, and don't pan out

the fact is, he hasn't stuck anywhere and his fat *** is blowing in the wind

Hey, Fonoti has shown that he's able which is a lot more than Marten or McQ have or ever will show.

it's reality

some young players are going to look bad

I guess there's a difference between looking 'bad' and looking 'incapable'. I see incapable.

just going by your history of throwing names against the wall and not really know what you're talking about, so it's quite applicable given the situation

A pathetic attempt to try to steer this debate off topic.

I 'throw names against the wall'? Maybe I simply think for myself rather than blindly following everything my team does like a lemming. I remember the same carp about 'not needing receivers' because 'Terry Glenn was coming back'. That's looking great right about now.

we aren't going to be regretting cutting Ogelsby, sorry, we're not, we did nothing but improve our special teams by getting rid of him

I know. Just like we never 'regretted' cutting Aaron Glenn last season, because this team can do no wrong - ever.

Special Teams will 'improve' when the coach gets cut.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

File it next to the 'McQuistan is a small-school project' excuse.

it's not just that he's from a small school, it's that he played there for 2 years

he's very inexperienced because of that, and the process is going to take longer than most, how hard is that to understand?

Hey, Fonoti has shown that he's able which is a lot more than Marten or McQ have or ever will show.

that's why noone wants him?

I guess there's a difference between looking 'bad' and looking 'incapable'. I see incapable.

the difference is between bad and good

Fonoti is bad

Olivia is bad

Free is bad

McQ is bad

Marten is bad

Proctor is bad

A pathetic attempt to try to steer this debate off topic.

I 'throw names against the wall'? Maybe I simply think for myself rather than blindly following everything my team does like a lemming. I remember the same carp about 'not needing receivers' because 'Terry Glenn was coming back'. That's looking great right about now.

all you do is play Madden on here

Jones

Fonoti

Olivia

all of them suck

yet they are somehow answers to you, because they had some sort of hype attached to their names at one point

I know. Just like we never 'regretted' cutting Aaron Glenn last season, because this team can do no wrong - ever.

Special Teams will 'improve' when the coach gets cut.

talk about steering a debate off-topic, Aaron Glenn is gone, get over it

you need players who can play special teams as much as you need a coach

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

While talking about McQuistan, it seems to me since Parcells left, he doesn't seem to put forth the same effort into getting better anymore. (sitting on his potential maybe?)

Tell me agian why we cut Ogelsby?

 

[DaBoys4Life]

I still say its time to cut our loses with these young guys.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

Tell me agian why we cut Ogelsby?

for Keith Davis.

 

[DaBoys4Life]

it's not just that he's from a small school, it's that he played there for 2 years

he's very inexperienced because of that, and the process is going to take longer than most, how hard is that to understand?



that's why noone wants him?



the difference is between bad and good

Fonoti is bad

Olivia is bad

Free is bad

McQ is bad

Marten is bad

Proctor is bad



all you do is play Madden on here

Jones

Fonoti

Olivia

all of them suck

yet they are somehow answers to you, because they had some sort of hype attached to their names at one point





talk about steering a debate off-topic, Aaron Glenn is gone, get over it

you need players who can play special teams as much as you need a coach

How many people were banging down Colombo's door before we picked him up????

 

[Bob Sacamano]

How many people were banging down Colombo's door before we picked him up????

good point

but noone in Dallas, or anywhere else, sees Colombo in Tony freakin' Fonoti

 

[DaBoys4Life]

good point

but noone in Dallas, or anywhere else, sees Colombo in Tony freakin' Fonoti

true. But you know what I'm getting at and you also know that our backs up have a long way to go and can't be counted on in case on injuries.