Wow... one loss and people are going nuts

[Hostile]

It's not the losing, I endured those years in the 80's also and waited every week for my Dallas Cowboys Weekly to arrive 3 days late and I remember them well, but at that time, maybe it was because I was a lot younger and had less information but it did not seem like we had a team that underacheived like this one and one who had no heart or toughness like I see in this group sometimes.

I am not whining about losing it's just the way this team goes about it. I turned to my son after our TD and asked him if he expected our D to hold and he said "no" and I said "I don't either"

To watch what the Jets did to Brady in that last drive and to compare it with the D we played in that last drive.........ugggggghhh

It's just sickening. We had not covered anyone all game and yet Wade wants to rush 4 and rely on our coverage.

That was mindboggling.

It was sickening just like Baltimore and Philly last year.

I think you're off base on several points aik.

To under achieve you have to have truly superior talent. I like this team but I do not think we do. Other than DeMarcus Ware I can't think of anyone on this team that I think could crack the front 7 we had for much of the late 70's and early 80's.

Ed Jones or Marcus Spears? Anyone who tells me Spears never saw Ed Jones play.

Randy White or Jay Ratliff? I love Ratliff and I would put him next to Randy in a heartbeat, but over him? Not on your nelly.

Chris Canty & Igor Olshansky in a package deal or Harvey Martin? Give me the Beautiful one.

The main areas that I would prefer the current team are TE and QB. I would take Tony Romo over even Danny White. I don't understand this "can't win the big game" nonsense at all. The same stuff was said about Peyton Manning. I am not comparing him to Peyton Manning. Again, I hate having to put that in bold but I know how soft people are any more.

As far as the how they lose stuff you can't tell me this is any different than the Catch. You can't tell me it's any different than the 248 yards of rushing Eric Dickerson slapped us in the face with. You can't tell me it's any different than losing to Detroit when they had 12 men on the field and the refs didn't catch it.

A loss is a loss. You have them and you move on. I don't understand the need to whine about it for a week or longer. I cannot believe we are still complaining about the Baltimore and Philadelphia losses as if they impact this team. That crap never would have happened in the late 70's and early 80's. Now it is a delicate subject sure to cause chafing.

I just so disagree.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

I endured 15 seasons from 1977 to 1992 waiting for a 3rd Super Bowl. Those years were hard. We had back to back seasons where we were the worst team in the NFL and several where we weren't any good.

Then I am sure you have noticed that enduring 13 years from 1996 to 2009 waiting for a single Play-Off win has been no ride in the park either.

I don't think it's in anyones best interest to continue letting Jones skate on his "football guy" delusions out of mediocrity.

 

[Hostile]

Then I am sure you have noticed that enduring 13 years from 1996 to 2009 waiting for a single Play-Off win has been no ride in the park either.

I don't think it's in anyones best interest to continue letting Jones skate on his "football guy" delusions out of mediocrity.

Where did I say I was enjoying this ride? I hate this crap. All I said was people of this generation and as a whole are softer and I stand by that. Criticism is taken very personal very quickly and no one can ever be forgiven. I think that's delicate in ways I wouldn't like to be associated with.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

Criticism is taken very personal very quickly and no one can ever be forgiven. I think that's delicate in ways I wouldn't like to be associated with.

Home is where you make it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwbUCI9bEvA&feature=player_embedded#t=18

 

[aikemirv]

I think you're off base on several points aik.

To under achieve you have to have truly superior talent. I like this team but I do not think we do. Other than DeMarcus Ware I can't think of anyone on this team that I think could crack the front 7 we had for much of the late 70's and early 80's.

Ed Jones or Marcus Spears? Anyone who tells me Spears never saw Ed Jones play.

Randy White or Jay Ratliff? I love Ratliff and I would put him next to Randy in a heartbeat, but over him? Not on your nelly.

Chris Canty & Igor Olshansky in a package deal or Harvey Martin? Give me the Beautiful one.

The main areas that I would prefer the current team are TE and QB. I would take Tony Romo over even Danny White. I don't understand this "can't win the big game" nonsense at all. The same stuff was said about Peyton Manning. I am not comparing him to Peyton Manning. Again, I hate having to put that in bold but I know how soft people are any more.

As far as the how they lose stuff you can't tell me this is any different than the Catch. You can't tell me it's any different than the 248 yards of rushing Eric Dickerson slapped us in the face with. You can't tell me it's any different than losing to Detroit when they had 12 men on the field and the refs didn't catch it.

A loss is a loss. You have them and you move on. I don't understand the need to whine about it for a week or longer. I cannot believe we are still complaining about the Baltimore and Philadelphia losses as if they impact this team. That crap never would have happened in the late 70's and early 80's. Now it is a delicate subject sure to cause chafing.

I just so disagree.

I was never trying to compare players of this generation to players of that generation but when you look at the team that beat us (NY) in 07 and you look at the team that beat us (Pittsburgh) in 08 who went on to win the superbowl......You can't tell me we did not have the talent to be in both of those SB's

Sorry, but we had the team and talent to beat both of those teams and we fell short.

I think the way we ended last year was probably the most embarrassing as a Cowboys fan.


By the way, the "catch" was a great play despite good defense and is just the opposite of what is happening these days.

 

[juck]

Where did I say I was enjoying this ride? I hate this crap. All I said was people of this generation and as a whole are softer and I stand by that. Criticism is taken very personal very quickly and no one can ever be forgiven. I think that's delicate in ways I wouldn't like to be associated with.

:laugh2: :laugh2: Thats the pot......

 

[Hostile]

Home is where you make it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwbUCI9bEvA&feature=player_embedded#t=18

If there is a point, it escapes me.

 

[Clove]

I think we have a pretty good team collectively although I question our secondary and or scheme, if we correct the mistakes (if) then winning should come fairly easy.

 

[5Stars]

I think we have a pretty good team collectively although I question our secondary and or scheme, if we correct the mistakes (if) then winning should come fairly easy.

I can feel it in my bones....

This season is going to be special...

 

[Fmart322]

one lost and people are going nuts, I thought it was a good football game some bad bounces here and there but over all a good game. I am a Boys fan through and through 31 years now (since I was 4) but I guess I practice what I preach, I tell my kids a loss just shows them where they need to improve and to leave it on the field.

Anyways I just thought I would type all of thei because I think it is funny how mad people get after a loss.

Have a nice day :starspin

One loss he say's. Let's see, they tank last season at the end.......for the 3rd year in a row. Same story every time with this team. They got spanked in their last 2 games last season to miss the post season......again. They haven't won a post season game in 13 years, one of the longest streaks OF FUTILITY in the NFL. Jerry cherry picks games all the time and they always lose them; see Baltimore, Houston their expantion year and now the Giants. If a loss tells you where this team needs to go then with all the losses the Dallas Cowboys have had then they should be an atlas.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

Yeah, I think the biggest thing people seemed to misunderstand is that most people who are panicking are not just looking at this lost in a vacuum, they are grouping several bad losses under this current regime and group of players together.

How can you not see things from a broader perspective?

 

[Bach]

Yeah, I think the biggest thing people seemed to misunderstand is that most people who are panicking are not just looking at this lost in a vacuum, they are grouping several bad losses under this current regime and group of players together.

How can you not see things from a broader perspective?

That about sums it up.

It would be easy to say it's just "one loss" if it weren't for the fact it's becoming a trend instead of something out of the ordinary.

 

[Hostile]

Yeah, I think the biggest thing people seemed to misunderstand is that most people who are panicking are not just looking at this lost in a vacuum, they are grouping several bad losses under this current regime and group of players together.

How can you not see things from a broader perspective?

So what you are saying is that 2008 losses count in 2009?

Interesting theory. Can you back it up?

1991, we lost to Detroit in the playoffs 38-6. I know the score well because I had to have it shaved into one side of my head and the Lions logo into the other side after I lost a bet. To this day I despise Erik Kramer.

In early 1992 we lost an early game to the Philadelphia Eagles, 31-7. That was transferred from the Lions loss carrying over?

Or does your theory only work for one year, this one particular year we are in right now? 1992 we went on to win the Super Bowl.

It just seems like a hell of a lot of importance being dumped on one loss. It just screams hysteria to me.

 

[zrinkill]

Yeah, I think the biggest thing people seemed to misunderstand is that most people who are panicking are not just looking at this lost in a vacuum, they are grouping several bad losses under this current regime and group of players together.

How can you not see things from a broader perspective?

I do not think that anyone is bothered by people feeling that this team sucks and panicking.

What bothers people is when they go from thread to thread saying the same thing spamming the board with their negativity.

And then act surprised when people react to it in a negative manner.

It gets old.

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[Bach]

Forget the fact Romo keeps making the same mistakes. Forget that secondary keeps getting burnt and the defense still can't stop anyone in crunch time.

It's just "one loss". I'm sure it's just a fluke, just like last time.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

So what you are saying is that 2008 losses count in 2009?

Interesting theory. Can you back it up?

1991, we lost to Detroit in the playoffs 38-6. I know the score well because I had to have it shaved into one side of my head and the Lions logo into the other side after I lost a bet. To this day I despise Erik Kramer.

In early 1992 we lost an early game to the Philadelphia Eagles, 31-7. That was transferred from the Lions loss carrying over?

Or does your theory only work for one year, this one particular year we are in right now? 1992 we went on to win the Super Bowl.

It just seems like a hell of a lot of importance being dumped on one loss. It just screams hysteria to me.

Still doesn't change the fact that "Some" of the people that are complaining are looking at things from a broader perspective.

The 1991 Team was 5-0 in their last 5 Regular Season Games and the 1992 team was 5-1 in their last 6 Regular Season Games.

When this current crop closes out Seasons like that, then we can start making some comparisons.

 

[Hostile]

Still doesn't change the fact that "Some" of the people that are complaining are looking at things from a broader perspective.

The 1991 Team was 5-0 in their last 5 Regular Season Games and the 1992 team was 5-1 in their last 6 Regular Season Games.

When this current crop closes out Seasons like that, then we can start making some comparisons.

There is no broader perspective. That is a self made illusion. A sham. A prevarication. A false mantra based on a non existent theory.

2008 does not translate, copy to, direct, or in any way have a bearing on 2009. It is one of the beautiful things about football.

I didn't make a comparison, I cited History. There is a huge difference.

 

[Bach]

There's no broader perspective. The team just keeps making the same mistakes with the same QB and HC and GM.

I liked the bad 1991/1992 comparison better.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

There is no broader perspective. That is a self made illusion. A sham. A prevarication. A false mantra based on a non existent theory.

2008 does not translate, copy to, direct, or in any way have a bearing on 2009. It is one of the beautiful things about football.

Kind of like Butt-Hurt :laugh2:?

There is always a broader perspective.

I guarantee you Jerry Jones sees the "broader perspective" and that is exactly why Wade Phillips doesn't have a contract extension.

Sorry but when trying to find out why a group of players perform the way they do, the past is the only thing you have to go on.

 

[Hostile]

There's no broader perspective. The team just keeps making the same mistakes with the same QB and HC and GM.

I liked the bad 1991/1992 comparison better.

I would invite you to discuss football with me, but it would interrupt the chafing. So I'll simply ask, do you have a point, or are you just scratching an itch that I don't give two hoots in hell about?