WP - Skins drove up price on Davis $20M Guaranteed!

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BigDFan5;1404372 said:
10 mill guaranteed for a punter protector, money well spent:laugh2:
screw punting, if he blocks for a couple of fgs that'll count for 2 wins. imagine if romo had been running behind him, he would've scored and the cowboys would be hoisting the lombardi in miami
 
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STSINAZ;1404322 said:
nice jerry way to spend 20 million on a weak overrated tackle! thats where he will be this year dont worry....and now he has his money...he may play worse...and when gurode falls off cause he got his money we are done


Dude go back to bed..

Gurode will only get better because from what I know and heard he's the kind of guy that's always working on getting better!
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1404425 said:
thats not the point. I wasn't trying to bash anything with that post.

Point being, teams care about what their rivals are doing. When you compete against someone, it is only natrual to know what they are doing. So to try and turn it around ( like the previous poster did) is just silly
Cowboy fans' reaction to Smoot is understandable. Smoot was a Commander. Washington allowed him to leave because they thought their defense could be better without him. Now, they want him back. That's comical.

OTOH, Davis signs with Dallas. We have a need at guard. Guard is Davis' best position. Even with the negatives he has garnered during his six years in the league, he's a good offensive lineman being asked to play to his strength. Since he should be replacing Rivera that's an UPgrade. But for some reason, Commander fans' think there is some oddity in the signing. Go figure.
 

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WoodysGirl;1404413 said:
Those have been the funniest posts I've read today.

Especially MB's - "Extending popular, home-grown performers would be a better use, in my opinion."

When his team has never used that philosophy. Which popular, home-grown performers have they kept?

Ladell Betts, Mike Sellers, Chris Samuels, Randy Thomas...
 

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MossBurner;1404445 said:
Ladell Betts, Mike Sellers, Chris Samuels, Randy Thomas...

Well come back in april when we have 10 draft picks and will add more players, the real way through the draft.

Remember teams are built in april.

And right now, you guys are in trouble in april.

Isnt betts on the block by the way? And that is an awful short list because of the way your front office has mishandled the draft.
 

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MossBurner;1404445 said:
Ladell Betts, Mike Sellers, Chris Samuels, Randy Thomas...

I see your list but I also live here in the DC area and I hear Ex Skins like Doc Walker and B Mitch always complaining about yall not signing your own. Infact, they think your ftrofc is a JOKE.....
 

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MossBurner;1404445 said:
Ladell Betts, Mike Sellers, Chris Samuels, Randy Thomas...

Oh...I forgot that Randy Thomas was drafted by the skins and has played his entire career with the skins.
:rolleyes:
 

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DallasEast;1404441 said:
Cowboy fans' reaction to Smoot is understandable. Smoot was a Commander. Washington allowed him to leave because they thought their defense could be better without him. Now, they want him back. That's comical.

OTOH, Davis signs with Dallas. We have a need at guard. Guard is Davis' best position. Even with the negatives he has garnered during his six years in the league, he's a good offensive lineman being asked to play to his strength. Since he should be replacing Rivera that's an UPgrade. But for some reason, Commander fans' think there is some oddity in the signing. Go figure.

:lmao2: :lmao2: :lmao2:

did you completly just disregard my previous post?
 

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MossBurner;1404354 said:
Some people really don't understand contracts!

Highest paid safety in the NFL. He will never see one-third of that money. He got ~10M guaranteed. His base salaries the first three years are under 4M combined. After that he will be released or restructured. Get a clue.

I never read more of the thread after this comment, so my apologies if this has been addressed already but............

10 million guaranteed for a special teams player and WE need to get a clue?

:lmao2:

But really, the Skins covered their collective ***** on that blunder by trading for Duckett and Lloyd. Whom I really think are going to pan out well. :rolleyes: Stupidity must be a burgandy and gold prerequisite.


:suxskins:



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MossBurner;1404299 said:
Where are all the Boys fans who called him a lazy, underachieving bum who would get overpaid by Snyder. Looks to me like times have changed!

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/redskinsinsider/

Kudos To The Skins

[FONT=Times New Roman,times,serif]If what I am hearing from some agents - who are not directly involved in the negotiations - is true, then Leonard Davis is about to pocket close to $20 million guarnated of Jerry Jones's money, and the Skins have shown some welcome restraint.
This dude is a classic trap. Yeah, he's big and atheltic, but he also has a six-year body of work that shows he is exactly what he is. He was a big-time underachiver, but could always do just enough to make some scouts think, maybe, just maybe, if the work ethic improved the intensity cranked up he could be a beast. But he had serious warts and giving this guy Hutchinson/Dockery/Steinbach money - never thought I'd write this sentence - is way too dangerous.
If The Snyder and Coach Joe would have actually paid this dude I know several people at Commanders Park would have given up and thrown themselves off the roof.
The Cowboys were his primary suitors all along - many at The Park never figured he'd leave there without a contract in the first place - and after the Dockery signing came through, Davis's price went up. Dallas balked at first, so he jumped a plane to Ashburn, but I never got the feeling the Skins were going all out in any way to keep him. If anything I think they were finally on the receiving end of some gamesmanship, driving the price up and making Jerry nervous, rather in years past when other teams and agents used them as pawns to get the Redsking to essentially bid against themselves for certain free agents.
I also don't blame the Skins for holding the line on Dockery. At the end of the day we're still talking about a solid but unspectacular GUARD who had a strong 2006 season but also his share of struggles before that. Don't get me wrong, Dock could be the complete package and maybe his offseason dedication in 2006 is a sign of things to come, but still, for that kind of money? I can't see it. You're giving guards who never have shown a Pro Bowl pedigree more money than a lot of left tackles make.
So where do the Skins go now? Well, I think you can still get a solid guard on the street. Again,. talk to football people and they will tell you this is the easiest position to replace. You can slide backup centers and tackle often to the position and make the switch. Gaurds get the most help on the offensive line and it's the easiest position to get a starter out of the draft in the mid round in the draft (if the Skins trade down as many in the building hope to, look for them try to pick up a guard in the third round or so).
There were people on the staff who liked Montrae Holland, who signed a $1 million deal in Denver yesterday. Adam Timmerman would know the system from his time with Al Saunders in St. Louis, but many scouts think he's probably done a sa productive player. The sense I get is that there will be no rush here.
They'll also look for a tight end, probably even this week. But I don't see them breaking the bank there either.
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Yes it's all part of the Skins master plan at salary cap budgeting.
The Skins, their fans and now thier media are trying to convince people that they are the ones that are driving up the market. This while skins have so little cap space they have to continually rework veteran contracts to make room for FA money. Let's see...
They traded away the best cb in football for a rb(Portis) who is rumored now to be on the trading block.
They got rid of one of the worst cover guys Fred Smoot...and now they have reportedly re-signed him back. The skins are chasing thier own piglet tails around in a circle with these moves.
SQUEAL PIG SQUEAL!!!!!!!!:lmao:
 

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Blue&Silver;1404468 said:
At least we didn't sign a midget 32 year old linebacker for 25m.

funny, because a lot of the people here thought it was a decent signing :laugh2:
 

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Of course we drove up the price.

So did you guys.
So did the Giants.
So did 5 other teams that were interested in Davis but it wasn't reported by the media.



It's called FA.
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1404478 said:
funny, because a lot of the people here thought it was a decent signing :laugh2:

Really, like who??? The guy is damn near 33yrs old and 5'10 on one of the worst defenses in the league...
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1404478 said:
funny, because a lot of the people here thought it was a decent signing :laugh2:

I'm not one.

I don't know why you'd want to pay a 32 year old LB $25 million. I don't know what the SB was, but I'm sure you overpaid....as always.

He's a player that's far past his prime. He isn't the type that will be a difference maker on your defense. So far, you've improved you defense marginally.
 

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skinsngibbs4life;1404478 said:
funny, because a lot of the people here thought it was a decent signing :laugh2:
Uh....Ok.:rolleyes:

Paying aging lb's big money early in free agency...that makes a lot of sense.

People are laughing at the skins...even fans of teams in the AFC who have no natural rivalry with the Skins are laughing at you.

And the fans of the skins....I swear if you guys were freezing in an igloo Snyder would be able to sell you ice cubes! ;)
 
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