WR In the First Round Is a Horrible Idea

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I would only designate kicker as a horrible idea in the first round.

Everything else is fair game. Every position has more than it's share of failures.

DWAYNE BOWE!!!!!!!

Or someone. Whatever.
 

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windward;1431399 said:
My question is: How can sixth or seventh round picks be considered "busts" when little is really expected of them?
The same thing expected of 1st round picks, just not as immediate with results.
 

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superpunk;1431401 said:
I would only designate kicker as a horrible idea in the first round.

Everything else is fair game. Every position has more than it's share of failures.

DWAYNE BOWE!!!!!!!

Or someone. Whatever.
And I thought I could count on you supporting my "Justin Medlock in the First" campaign.

I'm very disappointed.

:tantrum:
 

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windward;1431399 said:
My question is: How can sixth or seventh round picks be considered "busts" when little is really expected of them?

I just decided to categorize, and boom or bust was it
 

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tomson75;1431338 said:
You sure? Why not go all the way? You gettin' soft?

Oh calm down, I'm hardly the only one on this board that would want Ginn.
 

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windward;1431406 said:
And I thought I could count on you supporting my "Justin Medlock in the First" campaign.

I'm very disappointed.
Don't try to turn me into a Raider fan.

I support nearly every player in the draft at 22 - except for Justin Medlock and Sydney Crosby.

I hate the Penguins. :mad:
 

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Hostile;1431403 said:
The same thing expected of 1st round picks, just not as immediate with results.
But if your first rounder busts, it's more catastrophic than if a sixth rounder were to bust (due to a greater likelihood of drafting a good player in the first than the sixth)

I agree with you, ultimately. You get diminishing returns normally as you move from one round to the next. This is a fairly deep class and if WR is not addressed in the first two rounds than there are questions that will need to be answered by whoever is running the draft.
 

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I'm sorry, but some positions are so important that you have no choice but to dip your toe into the pool again. Blowing it on Ryan Leaf didn't dissuade the Chargers from drafting Eli Manning. You just keep doing it till you get it right.
 

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superpunk;1431413 said:
Don't try to turn me into a Raider fan.

I support nearly every player in the draft at 22 - except for Justin Medlock and Sydney Crosby.

I hate the Penguins. :mad:
count me in on the Penguins hate.
 

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bbgun;1431419 said:
I'm sorry, but some positions are so important that you have no choice but to dip your toe into the pool again. Blowing it on Ryan Leaf didn't dissuade the Chargers from drafting Eli Manning. You just keep doing it till you get it right.
Is it odd that I find myself increasingly agreeing with you?
 

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bbgun;1431419 said:
I'm sorry, but some positions are so important that you have no choice but to dip your toe into the pool again. Blowing it on Ryan Leaf didn't dissuade the Chargers from drafting Eli Manning. You just keep doing it till you get it right.
Good point.
 

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windward;1431417 said:
But if your first rounder busts, it's more catastrophic than if a sixth rounder were to bust (due to a greater likelihood of drafting a good player in the first than the sixth)

I agree with you, ultimately. You get diminishing returns normally as you move from one round to the next. This is a fairly deep class and if WR is not addressed in the first two rounds than there are questions that will need to be answered by whoever is running the draft.[/QUOTE]

If there is excess supply of anything (deep WR class), doesn't that mean you can buy it lower?
 

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The Realist;1431425 said:
If there is excess supply of anything (deep WR class), doesn't that mean you can buy it lower?
In football, supplies are always limited.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1431048 said:
WR

Long list

36 of 73 or 49% busts

DE
long list

26 of 78 busts or 33% busts

OT
long list

21 of 64 busts or 33% busts

Now to me this is huge. I realize that some like Meacham, some like Jarrett and some like Ginn but at the end of the day I wouldnt even want Johnson. There is a 50% chance that any WR drafted in the first round will crap out on you and with the first day WRs being 10 deep i would rather take my chances later on.

If you disagree with some of my assessments thats fine but overall they should remain about the same.


This list is highly innacurate (as per my comments above)...to portray the number ONE pick overall Aundray Bruce as a BOOM pick is ridiculous!! I won't even bother with the Olineman, all credibility when out the window with Bruce.
 

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windward;1431423 said:
Is it odd that I find myself increasingly agreeing with you?
nah. He's alright when he's not doing the martyr dance, and falling on his sword for our education. :)

i cant believe there is anyone in Hawaii that likes hockey. and yes, I did just stereotype you. Huzzah!
 

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InmanRoshi;1431263 said:
Also, I said I would draft a WR in the first round if I thought he had elite or special ability ... like a Calvin Johnson. I would draft an offensive center or guard in the first round if I thought he was going to be a 10 year Pro Bowler ... that doesn't mean I typically think drafting an offensive center in the first round is a good way to go about doing business.

Centers in the first round are rare and usually teams don't reach for a non-skill position in the first round. Players like Nick Mangold last year, for example are easy to pigeonhole. It just seems easier to evaluate what it takes to be a "good center". You could watch him in drills and tell he was special. WRs can deceive. So can QBs.

They do reach for WRs and QBs because you have to have them and if you don't, it is more glaring and obvious. So they take bigger risks.

In regards to Johnson, you might not have stated you'd pass on Johnson. But the thread originator most certainly did. My apologies for lumping you in with that.
 
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