WR Update. Amari vs the Cowboys Wrs

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Lamb's a significant upgrade from Cooper. Plus the kid doesn't miss crucial games & practices just because he doens't feel like going. He'll learn to keep his eye on the ball. He's always looking prematurely on where he can run after the catch. It's a habit. But he sure makes up for them.
 
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We had both.:mad: But seriously, these Coop discussions need to die down. I miss him too, but he ain't coming back. I enjoy Noah's development and can't wait to see something out of Tolbert. The young TEs are very promising. Schultz is the man, but Fergy and Hendy are awesome blockers with pretty decent hands - and they're athletic - imagine that after over a decade of our beloved statue Witten.:lmao2: We have a young developing offense, so good luck to Coop, but let's focus on what we have.

Dude I moved on before last season was over. I knew Cooper was gone and you can look at my post history to prove it. The issue is the front office putting us in losing situations. Those things deserve to be rehashed again and again. An environment of zero accountability has fostered a sputtering franchise.
 

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so,

all the talk since game 1, coopers sorely missed, a catastrophic mistake etc etc can't remember all the headlines this past week after Thursday's game.

Lamb 17-191 1td
Brown 15 -213 1 td

Amari cooper 19- 219 2 tds

Gallup and Washington coming back will solidify this group with Dak back as well...

I'd say the overactions are just that. I don't see what the big deal is...

those making comps for daks salary vs rushes production, how about that comp for our WR group,

well, ACs making 22mil.... what's Brown and Lamb making together? add in Gallup(4.5mil) and Washington.

I say we got the better deal. wen fans lie me say let's wait until season end for comps, this is why. as time goes by game by game you will see the true impact of these moves.
You do realize Lamb is going to have to be paid and it will be a lot more than what Cooper is getting… just simple market value increase! Brown isn’t going to sign for league minimum again next year. He’s going to be looking for something between Wilson and Gallup’s contract. Cooper’s contract was already done and even when not making the reception he’s pulling the double team making it easier on the other receivers. Your trying to sugarcoat a turd and say it’s a snickers!
 

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Does anyone seriously think we could not have used Cooper in those first two games? The WR corps did a good job against the Giants. That's a good thing, but it doesn't mean we wouldn't still be better off with Cooper so far this season.
2-1 is 2-1 so NO

we would be better off with Gallup and Washington, is that lost on you fans???

they used the money to sign Gallup, stick and elevate Lamb and Brown got ceds production..its all working. Wait on Gallup and Washington ,which will make us better.
 

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Better then 2-1 WRONG our WR production is posted in factual stats, we do NOT MISS him or his cap hit.

I'm not 100% with you Blueblood. I'm pretty much comfortable that Cooper is gone but we have missed him. I take your point of the 2 Ws but we squeaked by the Bengals and faced off against a poor Giants team so while they were Ws, they may not be the next time we are in a close fight...................just saying.
 

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Dude I moved on before last season was over. I knew Cooper was gone and you can look at my post history to prove it. The issue is the front office putting us in losing situations. Those things deserve to be rehashed again and again. An environment of zero accountability has fostered a sputtering franchise.
IM talking about the 40 new Cooper pages after Thursday's game. Sorry you didn't read but im giving counter points, to those that feel the need for the constant Amari updates.
 

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I'm not 100% with you Blueblood. I'm pretty much comfortable that Cooper is gone but we have missed him. I take your point of the 2 Ws but we squeaked by the Bengals and faced off against a poor Giants team so while they were Ws, they may not be the next time we are in a close fight...................just saying.
and yet Gallup and Washingtons, dak, Schults, and McGovern on their way back..

we do not and have not at 2-1 missed cooper. we are playing without Gallup and Washington who were supposed to be Coops replacements and still getting production from Brown and Lamb..jeez , hard heads in here just cant admit a 22mil Coper hasnt been missed and we have help coming to make this WR core even better.
 

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I was not a fan of trading Coop, but I am slowly warming up to the idea that Ceedee, Gallup, and Brown along with our young TEs will be a solid group, as long as we continue playing balanced football.

What I worry about is Dak coming back and we go back to slinging it 40 to 50 times a game. We should have kept Coop or drafted a WR in the 1st if we want to be that team.
 

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I'm not 100% with you Blueblood. I'm pretty much comfortable that Cooper is gone but we have missed him. I take your point of the 2 Ws but we squeaked by the Bengals and faced off against a poor Giants team so while they were Ws, they may not be the next time we are in a close fight...................just saying.
MISSING Dak , Gallup, Washington, McGovern and Schultz, Tyrone smith, that's squeaking by with help on the way back..lmao.:facepalm: had zero to do with Copps absence. has more to do with the others missing.

when that sinks in clicks let me know. doubt it will, proves my post correct:popcorn:
 

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I was not a fan of trading Coop, but I am slowly warming up to the idea that Ceedee, Gallup, and Brown along with our young TEs will be a solid group, as long as we continue playing balanced football.

What I worry about is Dak coming back and we go back to slinging it 40 to 50 times a game. We should have kept Coop or drafted a WR in the 1st if we want to be that team.
sorry letting that 22mil contract walk was the best move
 

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2-1 is 2-1 so NO

we would be better off with Gallup and Washington, is that lost on you fans???

they used the money to sign Gallup, stick and elevate Lamb and Brown got ceds production..its all working. Wait on Gallup and Washington ,which will make us better.

Maybe we don't lose to Tampa with Cooper. Denial is acting like he hasn't played well with the Browns.

I understand the reasons why we cut him. He was making too much for what he produced last year. We chose between him and Gallup, etc. I don't understand the reason to downplay that he's a very good receiver and we'd be better off with him right now than without him.
 

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anthony barr?
NO ACs money technically went to sign Gallup, Washington and reup Brown, our WR group thats here now. those moves were made, the haters keep saying we didn't use the money to upgrade, my posts shows otherwise.
 

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Maybe we don't lose to Tampa with Cooper. Denial is acting like he hasn't played well with the Browns.

I understand the reasons why we cut him. He was making too much for what he produced last year. We chose between him and Gallup, etc. I don't understand the reason to downplay that he's a very good receiver and we'd be better off with him right now than without him.
wrong that was a mess, coop wouldn't not have made difference sorry that's the kind of fan response that make me go :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

, get real! coop was here last year all those big games we lost and the playoff game, no difference made. Lamb was in fact our Leading WR.. he and brown have close to the same production coop lmao,:popcorn:

thats my point..add back in Gallup and Washington coming back and we will be more than fine at WR. hew ant let go because he couldn't play he was let go because for 22mil ,we have better options at wr for the cap hits,, its a business, Moves are ALL, so far , working out.
 

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Maybe we don't lose to Tampa with Cooper. Denial is acting like he hasn't played well with the Browns.

I understand the reasons why we cut him. He was making too much for what he produced last year. We chose between him and Gallup, etc. I don't understand the reason to downplay that he's a very good receiver and we'd be better off with him right now than without him.
Not denial, his play isnt in question his lost production here is , we didn't drop off apples to apples we have players covering Coops hole he left. no ones questioning his skill set , his 22mil cap hit was not worth his production any longer , HERE.
 

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I think the jury is definitely still out.
Not at all.. his absences will have no effect up or down on our outcome,

we are not better nor worse over his lost. Its neutral , we have players to cover his lost production 3 games in, with many still haven't suited up yet in Gallup and Washington. remember Gallups also had a 1k+ season, he can make difference and WILL ...
 

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so,

all the talk since game 1, coopers sorely missed, a catastrophic mistake etc etc can't remember all the headlines this past week after Thursday's game.

Lamb 17-191 1td
Brown 15 -213 1 td

Amari cooper 19- 219 2 tds

Gallup and Washington coming back will solidify this group with Dak back as well...

I'd say the overactions are just that. I don't see what the big deal is...

those making comps for daks salary vs rushes production, how about that comp for our WR group,

well, ACs making 22mil.... what's Brown and Lamb making together? add in Gallup(4.5mil) and Washington.

I say we got the better deal. wen fans lie me say let's wait until season end for comps, this is why. as time goes by game by game you will see the true impact of these moves.


Actually Cooper only counts $4.89M against the Browns 2022 salary cap seeing as how they restructured his deal. He will count $23M against the cap in 2023 and 2024 with $15M in dead money in 2023.
 

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wrong that was a mess, coop wouldn't not have made difference sorry that's the kind of fan response that make me go :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

, get real! coop was here last year all those big games we lost and the playoff game, no difference made. Lamb was in fact our Leading WR.. he and brown have close to the same production coop lmao,:popcorn:

thats my point..add back in Gallup and Washington coming back and we will be more than fine at WR. hew ant let go because he couldn't play he was let go because for 22mil ,we have better options at wr for the cap hits,, its a business, Moves are ALL, so far , working out.

OK, I see you have an issue with this just like some lock on to Dak and Zeke and can see no good. His contract could have easily been restructured, so the cap hit isn't really that big of a deal. However, he didn't play up to his salary last year and we elected to keep the younger player. I have no problem with that without denying that Cooper has played well.

You've got to keep in mind more than production. Receivers who draw more coverage open up things for other receivers. Lamb was often tripled in the Bucs game. Schultz also drew bracket coverage. Tampa basically challenged us to beat them with someone else and we couldn't. A receiver like Cooper affects that. Hopefully, Gallup will do the same when he returns and Brown will take advantage of defenses putting third corners, safeties and linebackers on him.
 

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first off not at 22MIL Miss the point much??..jeez the coop fans can't let it go, it was a business move and the smart move for sure. he was far overpriced for what he brought here..

sorry we DONT miss him, its the point we do not miss Ced or turner either.

stats, don't lie,.

we are as productive and still haven't got Gallup and Washington back,

the FO plan is working. Like it or now we do NOT Miss coop..




In the Jones boys we trust. Their results speak for themselves.
 

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Not denial, his play isnt in question his lost production here is , we didn't drop off apples to apples we have players covering Coops hole he left. no ones questioning his skill set , his 22mil cap hit was not worth his production any longer , HERE.

I will agree with the last part, but there were ways to work around that. We didn't want to, so ... it's time to move on. That doesn't mean some of us don't believe that we'd be better off now with him than without him.
 
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