WT: Taylor case may change

[5Stars]

I wouldn't wish that on ANY Cowboy in the same situation.

Yeah, right...all Redstink fans would! :laugh2:

For people to wish the maximum sentance on this kid is just evil.

:devil: :chop: :chainsaw: :explode:

 

[ghst187]

I have been saying all along nothing will happen to him.

I agree also, the thing is...once a thug, almost always a thug. He'll probably get off on this case, but inevitably there will be another incident at some point. You can take the guy out of the ghetto but not the ghetto out of the thug...or something like that...:laugh2:

I will also say that I hope he does some hard jail time, seriously. and I say that with little care that he's a skin. It just infuriates me the treatment that pro athletes get when it comes to the law.

 

[wxcpo]

With all do respect lets be fair. Both safeties have flaws and are still learning the game (at the NFL level). Roy has made some mistakes in his time!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OBeB2S751U

And Roy went straight for the pads/helmet/upper torso. Not blasting Roy just trying to be fair.

Since we're going down memory lane. Remember this?

Not trying to blast Taylor just......well yeah I am blasting Taylor. :laugh2:

 

[firehawk350]

LMAO how convienant






I am thinking the assurances of an uber homer is not enough. If you are going to continue to say assanine things then maybe you should back them up. Lets recap some things you have said

The plaintiffs have extensive criminal records
The Police found guns on the plaintiffs
The Police matched bullets from the plaintiffs guns to Taylors house being shot up
The ATVs were recovered from the plaintiffs and returned to taylor
The Plaintiffs have been charged with shoting Taylors house.
The Plaintiffs were arrested

Now you have shown proof of NONE of these, and dont give me the miami herald BS because the Washington papers would have picked all of this up too. So go find a link or begone!
Regardless, the only witnesses from the prosecution are felons themselves for stealing and shooting up a house.





I have a feeling you are wrong

So you want a link to these criminal charges?! ***??? What do you want, some police blog? Or perhaps they post all these on the websites. My Dad's a cop, he has that access. He's never looked, and I've never asked, but I can imagine more then one person is either a cop, or knows a cop and has that access. CMON, use a little common sense! Even if it was on a website, you wouldn't buy it anyways, unless it was on a .gov site. And they don't post that on a .gov site.
And i can't believe the cowboys are berating the skins because they think were criminals. The most laughable scoff ever! "We haven't committed a major felony in the last two years!"

 

[BigDFan5]

So you want a link to these criminal charges?! ***??? What do you want, some police blog? Or perhaps they post all these on the websites. My Dad's a cop, he has that access. He's never looked, and I've never asked, but I can imagine more then one person is either a cop, or knows a cop and has that access. CMON, use a little common sense! Even if it was on a website, you wouldn't buy it anyways, unless it was on a .gov site. And they don't post that on a .gov site.
And i can't believe the cowboys are berating the skins because they think were criminals. The most laughable scoff ever! "We haven't committed a major felony in the last two years!"

Well little troll your ES buddy is the one saying they were chared and arrested etc etc. So if there are no links to prove it then how on earth does he know?

Also there is this little thing called media. Newspapers etc. if this stuff he says happened which it didnt (which is why he ran away) the newspaper would have carried the story. Sometimes you have to use your brain.

 

[firehawk350]

Since we're going down memory lane. Remember this?

Not trying to blast Taylor just......well yeah I am blasting Taylor. :laugh2:

Rookie year... Are you saying that rookies need to be infalliable? But maybe the fact the RW exists to make santana look fast make you mad. But oh yeah, you have TO, whose encounters (in two games) against shawn springs ended up 8 catches for 92 yards and a TD with McNabb (a whole level better then bledsoe). Whereas Santana has 232 yards and two TDs (should have been 3 but instead, Gibbs decided to take it on the 4 inch line). Or Brandon Lloyd who has 4 catches for 142 yards and two TDs on ONE GAME!
Now you were talking about somebody owning somebody, i musta missed that...

 

[firehawk350]

Well little troll your ES buddy is the one saying they were chared and arrested etc etc. So if there are no links to prove it then how on earth does he know?

Also there is this little thing called media. Newspapers etc. if this stuff he says happened which it didnt (which is why he ran away) the newspaper would have carried the story. Sometimes you have to use your brain.

I'm not saying whether Taylor is guilty, or the article exists. I don't know anything about this article, and I have never seen it so I can't comment yes or no on it. What I am stating is that some Skins fans (as we live in the power capital of the world) has hook-ups. People can find information through other means then internet sources. It's called research and all of it doesn't happen on the internet.
Make some phone calls to the police station for instance. I guarantee you the cop is telling this story to all his friends my narrow-minded friend...

 

[BigDFan5]

I'm not saying whether Taylor is guilty, or the article exists. I don't know anything about this article, and I have never seen it so I can't comment yes or no on it.

The why did you reply to me if you had nothing of substance to offer?

What I am stating is that some Skins fans (as we live in the power capital of the world) has hook-ups. People can find information through other means then internet sources. It's called research and all of it doesn't happen on the internet.

and yet no paper has run any kind of story I think they may have some contacts too dont you? The reason it hasnt run is because the Skins26 was LYING

Make some phone calls to the police station for instance. I guarantee you the cop is telling this story to all his friends my narrow-minded friend...

blah blah Now you are speaking for imaginary cops

 

[firehawk350]

I agree also, the thing is...once a thug, almost always a thug. He'll probably get off on this case, but inevitably there will be another incident at some point. You can take the guy out of the ghetto but not the ghetto out of the thug...or something like that...:laugh2:

I will also say that I hope he does some hard jail time, seriously. and I say that with little care that he's a skin. It just infuriates me the treatment that pro athletes get when it comes to the law.

I agree 100%! If Taylor is guilty (I don't mean to give the impression that I'm of the opinion that he is not) then send his happy crack to jail like you would me! Or anyone else. As a skins fan, i hope to God he is innocent, but I have a modicum of faith in the system and in God (he being just) and if he's guilty, I'm think he will get his comuppance in one form or shape... Just my $.02

 

[firehawk350]

The why did you reply to me if you had nothing of substance to offer?

Maybe because I like manipulating you and making you angry for no good reason. You don't know Sean Taylor, but you hate him. Is that a good reason to get angry. It's nothing football related. So why are you pissed??? However, I regress. I was pointing out the fact that I was speaking to the validity of the information, not the existence of a singular source. I was pointing out that just because there isn't a link, doesn't mean that there isn't a valid source. Did you know 95% of intelligence is gathered through asking questions to the right people??? I know somebody in a police organization who has access to that information. And I'm sure I could find it out if I so desired.

and yet no paper has run any kind of story I think they may have some contacts too dont you? The reason it hasnt run is because the Skins26 was LYING

That's unfair... he justified his lack of a source so you take it with a grain of salt, not dismiss the whole argument...

blah blah Now you are speaking for imaginary cops

Haha, so you say that there wasn't a police officer that responded to the scene? So who arrested him? I wasn't SPEAKING for anyone, I was making a comment on a pretty good estimate of what I believe the cop would be doing/saying. I based this information on the fact that if I busted somebody as big as Taylor (for example, Brian Dawkins or Roy Williams) I would be telling ALL my friends and anyone at the bar and people stuck beside me in a traffic jam the story. I said that it was my assumption...

 

[felix360]

what a freaking jerk, this guy is worse than moss, TO, and marcus vick. and he's only 23, damn imagine what he might do later on.
hey deadskins good luck with him

 

[BigDFan5]

Maybe because I like manipulating you and making you angry for no good reason.

Sorry that you failed bud. Better luck next time

You don't know Sean Taylor, but you hate him.

When did I ever say I hated him? What I hate are people who come here and lie about things in order to prop up their player.

Is that a good reason to get angry. It's nothing football related. So why are you pissed???

Well 1st I am not pissed no idea where you come up with that. 2nd He is charged with pulling a gun on someone that is more serious that football

However, I regress. I was pointing out the fact that I was speaking to the validity of the information,

You pointed out that as far as you were aware it doesnt exist, Thanks

not the existence of a singular source. I was pointing out that just because there isn't a link, doesn't mean that there isn't a valid source.

This guy got it from somewhere yet he cant figure out where

Did you know 95% of intelligence is gathered through asking questions to the right people??? I know somebody in a police organization who has access to that information. And I'm sure I could find it out if I so desired.

Hurry back

That's unfair... he justified his lack of a source so you take it with a grain of salt, not dismiss the whole argument...

No I dismiss it because if it was reported in the Miami paper the DC paper would have picked it up as well seeing as how Wash has a vested intrest in it.

Haha, so you say that there wasn't a police officer that responded to the scene? So who arrested him?

Arrested who Taylor? Nobody he turned himself in after the fact

I wasn't SPEAKING for anyone, I was making a comment on a pretty good estimate of what I believe the cop would be doing/saying.

AKA speaking for someone

I based this information on the fact that if I busted somebody as big as Taylor (for example, Brian Dawkins or Roy Williams) I would be telling ALL my friends and anyone at the bar and people stuck beside me in a traffic jam the story. I said that it was my assumption...

I think you are getting lost we are talking about the plaintiffs being arrested not taylor

 

[firehawk350]

what a freaking jerk, this guy is worse than moss, TO, and marcus vick. and he's only 23, damn imagine what he might do later on.
hey deadskins good luck with him

Moss and TO are jerks, and it goes to opinion if Sean Taylor is more of one then them. I'm not going to debate opinion. But to say he's worse then Marcus Vick is insane. Marcus Vick is a whole level above him. Sean Taylor never maliciously hurt somebody before. He hurt people, but his job is safety, and never just out of spite. That's a bit unfair. However, to each his own, if you believe spitting makes you more of a jerk, then that's your call...

 

[superpunk]

Provide a video if you have one that shows Sean imitating Roy Williams. If you do that, I will admit that I was wrong.

Try this one....there's some lovely footage of him pulling McNabb down backwards, by the shoulder pads.

And also here...there's a nice mugging of a U. Fla player from back in the day. Enjoy. I'm sure there's more on these videos, if you bother to search. I can only take so much pass interference, and late hits before my stomach starts to turn.

There's video proof. I know what I can expect, though....

 

[superpunk]

However, I regress.

Heh...you really have been. Time to stop.

 

[superpunk]

I wasn't SPEAKING for anyone, I was making a comment on a pretty good estimate of what I believe the cop would be doing/saying.

Can anyone explain to me how, in any universe, or parallel time, what this man describes above is NOT speaking for someone?

I wasn't speaking for anyone, I was just saying what I thought they would have said.

 

[zrinkill]

Try this one....there's some lovely footage of him pulling McNabb down backwards, by the shoulder pads.

And also here...there's a nice mugging of a U. Fla player from back in the day. Enjoy. I'm sure there's more on these videos, if you bother to search. I can only take so much pass interference, and late hits before my stomach starts to turn.

There's video proof. I know what I can expect, though....

He will just run away from this post again ......

 

[zrinkill]

Commander Trolls are to easy

http://img.***BLOCKED***/albums/v210/zrinkill/Troll.jpg

 

[BigDFan5]

Can anyone explain to me how, in any universe, or parallel time, what this man describes above is NOT speaking for someone?

I wasn't speaking for anyone, I was just saying what I thought they would have said.

EXACTLY!

 

[firehawk350]

All this from a guy with Chuck Norris in his sig block. But I'll work on dumbing it down even further.

Sorry that you failed bud. Better luck next time

It's a process in the works. Either way, your tension level is rising because you called somebody a liar. You did so forcifully (by capitalizing). So you are getting agitated at the least. However, i don't really care about manipulating you per se, but I was pointing out that things aren't always what they seem. You will see that (it has further implications) as I respond to the rest of your post...

When did I ever say I hated him? What I hate are people who come here and lie about things in order to prop up their player.




Well 1st I am not pissed no idea where you come up with that. 2nd He is charged with pulling a gun on someone that is more serious that football

First off, I assumed you hated him. Due to the fact you hate the Commanders (again an assumption based on the fact that you love the cowboys) so therefore hated Commanders players. But if I'm wrong, then correct me. So do you hate him?
He is CHARGED with pulling a gun. If I was a district attorney, I could charge you with conspiracy and sedition right NOW (assumng I knew who you ACTUALLY are). But that's why we have a court system, so these charges can be resolved and investigated. It's unfair for us to make these assumptions based on the fact that he is charged with the crime. If he pleads no contest, guilty or is convicted in spite of his plea, then fine, I'll be right along side you, saying he's a no-good dirtbag until he can prove otherwise.

You pointed out that as far as you were aware it doesnt exist, Thanks





This guy got it from somewhere yet he cant figure out where

*Yawn* again, you are missing the point of my argument. He heard from somewhere, unless you are saying he fabricated it himself, personally. Who heard it from somewhere, and so on. It hasto have a source. My point being that there is a good chance the source isn't on the internet. For the last time, I'm not debating the existence of the newspaper article. A lot of newspapers (washington post) keeps archives but puts them in password protected areas (as many years of archives are expensive), so that a link is impossible without a password. Do you argee to this, or not?

Hurry back

That's the best you have??? Hurry back? I said they exist, but I haven't the time nor the interest to work the situation because it's not that important. But for your edification, the source is a cop, who can look up criminal records. Then I would place a call down to Maimi's DA and find out some the complaining citizen. Give that name back to the cop friend and he can run the criminal record.

No I dismiss it because if it was reported in the Miami paper the DC paper would have picked it up as well seeing as how Wash has a vested intrest in it.

Arrested who Taylor? Nobody he turned himself in after the fact

Sorry, I'm not full up on the case. I happened to be overseas at the time. Either way, the on duty officer, I'm sure, has quite a story. I'm sure he's told somebody.

AKA speaking for someone

No, speaking for someone else is implying FACT. I was putting out my view on something. Saying that it was my opinion (I guaranteed it, but I believe from the context, a reasonable person would see that I was putting my view on it). Big difference.