Xavier Woods scored a 39 on the Wonderlic

[Joe Realist]

That's incredible, I had read he turned down an offer from Stanford to stay close to come in LA. Anyone know what his college major was?

Doesn't surprise me at all he was so productive, Safety is an extremely cerebral position, 39 has gotta be 99%-ile


http://www.latechbbb.com/forum/showthread.php?138501-Xavier-Woods-scores-39-on-wonderlic

Long way from Claibornes 6

 

[adbutcher]

That's not exactly how the test works. I've taken it in an interview round for a finance job before. It's not at all just for athletes. You answer questions that become progressively harder and have to answer as many as possible in 10 minutes. Your score is a factor of both correctness and speed. To score well you need to answer questions correctly, but also a bunch of them correctly.

This. The previous guy is either passive aggressively hating on athletes or completely ignorant about the wonderlic.

 

[adbutcher]

Yes, I'm that guy who taps the brakes. I like our draft a lot, but I remember fans saying the same thing about Pat Watkins when we drafted him as a fifth-rounder. Truth is, we have no idea how these guys are going to turn out. I'm excited to see, but reality of the draft tells me that some of these guys are going to wash out.

It is hard to go forward when your foot is always on the brake. It is ok to be optimistic about our draft.

 

[khiladi]

Because for the last 3 years he couldnt even beat out Wilcox, so how good can he really be? And I have seen him over the years missing plenty of tackles when he did get in there. And he seems to suffer what most of the old guys suffer from. A lack of play making. What he had that one pick in the playoffs and everything thinks the guy can be good now? Im not buying it. He is special teams ace and backup safety fodder.

His INT was nice and all, in that he laid out to dive, but in all honesty it was an awful throw by Rodgers and he was late. The CB was burnt really bad and that should have been an easy TD.

 

[Stash]

Because for the last 3 years he couldnt even beat out Wilcox, so how good can he really be?

Good enough to get a multi-year contract and extension and be the last man standing from that entire group, right? I'm seeing a guy who's gotten better and better each year.

And I have seen him over the years missing plenty of tackles when he did get in there.

I saw that early in his career, but not last year.

And he seems to suffer what most of the old guys suffer from. A lack of play making. What he had that one pick in the playoffs and everything thinks the guy can be good now?

He made far more plays per snap played than any of the rest of them did, and that's not close.

Im not buying it. He is special teams ace and backup safety fodder.

Even though I disagree, thanks for letting me know your thoughts behind it.

 

[jazzcat22]

Yes, I'm that guy who taps the brakes. I like our draft a lot, but I remember fans saying the same thing about Pat Watkins when we drafted him as a fifth-rounder. Truth is, we have no idea how these guys are going to turn out. I'm excited to see, but reality of the draft tells me that some of these guys are going to wash out.

True, as we hit on some late rounders last year, but it doesn't mean we will hit on them this year.
I hope for the best for all rather drafted or UDFA., but not all of these 9 picks will make the team. I predict at least 3 will be on the PS, maybe even 4. And by 5 making the team and contributing, that is a good draft still.

 

[Stash]

If I MAY....because I was at the game. It might be the heartbreak of him being beat like a drum by Calvin Johnson in Detroit to lose us the game. That sticks with a lot of people. BUT, that was a long time ago and I am very much looking forward to him competing and possibly winning the spot.

If that's anyone's reasoning at this point, they're an idiot. So, you get beat by Calvin Johnson - the best receiver in the game in his time - as a rookie and you're forever labeled? That's beyond ignorant. And it only indicts the credibility of the critic, not the subject.

 

[DandyDon1722]

Perhaps.
Whenever I see sample questions from that test I am horrified about the low level of intelligence expected from college student/athletes.

I agree on some of the questions - they make you cringe.

But then there are other questions that I simply had no clue on. I always struggled with math story problems and there are always a few of them in the test. The key is to immediately answer the ones you know then go back and try to figure the rest out. Depending on your strength and weaknesses, you'll know which ones to completely avoid. The hardest part, to be honest, is the time restraint.

You should take it and see how you do. It's interesting.

http://nflwonderlictestscores.com/wonderlic-test-50-questions/

 

[rags747]

I think the "dumbest" one of the top five guys taken was Ryan Switzer, and he's far from dumb. All five are very cerebral guys.

I'm a huge believer in this. Of course, they have to be great athletes, but guys that can think make a lot fewer bad plays.

Jaylon Smith is another smart guy to add, too.

A great example is Church and Wilcox. Wilcox is a far better athlete than Church, but Church is a smart dude and did the right things. Wilcox played like a mental midget far too often, and he hurt the team with silly mistakes in coverage constantly that his athleticism couldn't cover up.

Thats funny, I have read the exact opposite on Jaylon...not sure what Switz's Wonderlic was/is.

 

[Daillest88]

Out of that crap secondary , Heath played the best. Had a big interception..could of had 2.. and had a sack....amazing how Rodgers held on to that ball.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Hate to rain on your parade but, Stephen has said along with Garrett that they are going to give Heath a chance to claim that job based
on his play last year. Heath is not a bad player and hanging your hat on one bad game against Megatron is the wrong way to evaluate
a player from a small school who is getting better each and every year.

Given a chance? Everyone will be given a chance. But he has been given a chance the last 3 years to win the job and couldnt do it against scrubs like Wilcox. So I am not holding my breath.

I also said nothing about one game or megatron.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I think he played well last year in a limited role and at least the last half of 2015. However, his responsibilities in that role were different than the starting safeties. He was primarily playing a deep zone, while Church, whom he would be replacing, played a lot of short zone/run defense.

If we run a true two-deep, Heath may be fine as the starter. I don't know who he will handle Cover 1 or even Cover 3. Or how he'll handle being the only deep safety if Byron covers the tight end 1-on-1 in the base, although I believe I saw him in the role some.

There's a big difference in being one of five or six DBs on the field and one of four.

Sure. So the reasoned opinion would be it'll be interesting if the positive play Heath has demonstrated in a limited role can translate to a larger role. Verses "man hope that trash that is Heath doesn't make it onto the field." Especially when you hear the coaches are high on him. Just reeks of preconceived notions.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Good enough to get a multi-year contract and extension and be the last man standing from that entire group, right? I'm seeing a guy who's gotten better and better each year.



I saw that early in his career, but not last year.



He made far more plays per snap played than any of the rest of them did, and that's not close.



Even though I disagree, thanks for letting me know your thoughts behind it.

Cmon, he got a piddly contract because he was a special teams ace and a viable backup option in a pinch at safety. That has value.

But how can a guy be any good when he cant even beat out Wilcox? Improved over time? Still couldnt beat out Wilcox.

Lets hope that I am wrong on this one and you are right. But you have to look at what they just did in FA and the draft and think that the FO isnt counting on him either.

 

[ilykdrama]

If that's anyone's reasoning at this point, they're an idiot. So, you get beat by Calvin Johnson - the best receiver in the game in his time - as a rookie and you're forever labeled? That's beyond ignorant. And it only indicts the credibility of the critic, not the subject.

Jesus Christ dude. I get it. I'm just letting you know why some people might not agree with you. He shouldn't have even been covering him and that's when he had the "historically bad" defense.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Heath Dang Near won the Packers game by himself. Maybe hes grown as a player.

Maybe. But I dont get too excited over one game vs 3 years.

 

[Stash]

Cmon, he got a piddly contract because he was a special teams ace and a viable backup option in a pinch at safety. That has value.

But how can a guy be any good when he cant even beat out Wilcox? Improved over time? Still couldnt beat out Wilcox.

He "beat out Wilcox" to stay here. If the team thought there was as much of a dropoff as you seem to think, one of Wilcox or Church would still be here, whether they had to overpay or not.

And as I recall, Wilcox wasn't starting last year either, right?

Lets hope that I am wrong on this one and you are right. But you have to look at what they just did in FA and the draft and think that the FO isnt counting on him either.

Of course, we all hope he works out, we're fans after all, right? But I'm encouraged by the progress and playmaking ability he's shown.

And of course the front office made moves to not out all of their eggs in one basket, that's just smart planning. If Heath doesn't work out, they have options and aren't stuck. That's good business. No single point of failure.

 

[Stash]

Jesus Christ dude. I get it. I'm just letting you know why some people might not agree with you. He shouldn't have even been covering him and that's when he had the "historically bad" defense.

Hey, relax! I'm not attacking you, far from it. No need to take the Lord's name in vain there.

 

[CowboyRoy]

Yes, I'm that guy who taps the brakes. I like our draft a lot, but I remember fans saying the same thing about Pat Watkins when we drafted him as a fifth-rounder. Truth is, we have no idea how these guys are going to turn out. I'm excited to see, but reality of the draft tells me that some of these guys are going to wash out.

I typically would agree about the draft, but most of these guys are heralded picks. And the film looks great on many of them. I think most were solid picks. I dont think anyone was claiming that Watkins was the steal of the draft when he was picked.

 

[CowboyRoy]

He "beat out Wilcox" to stay here. If the team thought there was as much of a dropoff as you seem to think, one of Wilcox or Church would still be here, whether they had to overpay or not.

And as I recall, Wilcox wasn't starting last year either, right?



Of course, we all hope he works out, we're fans after all, right? But I'm encouraged by the progress and playmaking ability he's shown.

And of course the front office made moves to not out all of their eggs in one basket, that's just smart planning. If Heath doesn't work out, they have options and aren't stuck. That's good business. No single point of failure.

Wilcox had one good year and it was this year. So the price was inflated. Heath got his contract last year did he not? And like I said, it was primarily based on his special teams play, not his safety play.

 

[CowboyRoy]

He "beat out Wilcox" to stay here. If the team thought there was as much of a dropoff as you seem to think, one of Wilcox or Church would still be here, whether they had to overpay or not.

And as I recall, Wilcox wasn't starting last year either, right?



Of course, we all hope he works out, we're fans after all, right? But I'm encouraged by the progress and playmaking ability he's shown.

And of course the front office made moves to not out all of their eggs in one basket, that's just smart planning. If Heath doesn't work out, they have options and aren't stuck. That's good business. No single point of failure.

What did they sign Heath for?