Yahoo: Jones put Dez in bad situation

[cern]

Okay...so give me a reasonable business reason the Cowboys would have that benefits them in doing what they did?

They don't owe him anything, but that doesn't mean they still can't do something wrong.

Not every business decision is reasonable. Given Dez's comments after his release and mcclay's subsequent comments, it appears a great deal of animosity existed between the parties. Regrettable, but it happens. Both sides just need to move on.

 

[Kevinicus]

How can you make that assumption? The three NFC East teams Dez wants to spitefully play for still would have had zero interest in him at the start of free agency. If you are a hot commodity it doesn't matter when you are cut. Antonio Brown wouldn't last a day on the market if cut right now.

It's not an assumption. It is a fact of free agency. There are more opportunities when the period opens...FACT.

Using the false equivalence of Antonio Brown is not a valid argument.

 

[G2]

I'll go with what we do know rather than trying to invent "unknowns" so we can feel better about it.

Like I said, I don't really feel any certain way, but without all the facts it feels like there's more to it. Just a hunch. I'm ok with being wrong. I probably do feel less about this because after the last couple years Dez has been a jackwagon and a change needed to happen. To be fair.

 

[G2]

Not every business decision is reasonable. Given Dez's comments after his release and mcclay's subsequent comments, it appears a great deal of animosity existed between the parties. Regrettable, but it happens. Both sides just need to move on.

Plus telling the fans who are critical of him to kiss his backside & Stephen Jones' comments etc...

 

[Kevinicus]

If the team was still trying to make some decisions, then it makes no sense to say they should have cut Dez and limited their options. The team has to put the team first.

"Still trying to make decisions." In other words - incompetence and indecision, which is what I have stated is what I think happened...and is not something they should be defended for.

 

[G2]

It's not an assumption. It is a fact of free agency. There are more opportunities when the period opens...FACT.

Using the false equivalence of Antonio Brown is not a valid argument.

It is because if a player of that caliber were available later there's a reasonable chance of that player getting signed right away. Unlike Dez.

 

[Kevinicus]

Dez was under contract so Jerry can cut him whenever he wanted to as far as i'm concerned and i'm very Pro-Dez Bryant if you haven't noticed.

Did it put Dez in a bad situation? Sure.

See guys, it's not so hard is it? Catch gets it.

 

[Kevinicus]

It is because if a player of that caliber were available later there's a reasonable chance of that player getting signed right away. Unlike Dez.

Dez is not the best WR in the NFL is not a valid argument. And even in that instance, there would still be less resources available, and it would still have an impact.

 

[Kevinicus]

Not every business decision is reasonable. Given Dez's comments after his release and mcclay's subsequent comments, it appears a great deal of animosity existed between the parties. Regrettable, but it happens. Both sides just need to move on.

And if a decision is not reasonable, is it not open to criticism? Is it not okay to point out the impact it has on the other party?

 

[Stash]

Like I said, I don't really feel any certain way, but without all the facts it feels like there's more to it. Just a hunch. I'm ok with being wrong. I probably do feel less about this because after the last couple years Dez has been a jackwagon and a change needed to happen. To be fair.

And I don't blame you or anyone else for feeling that way. I can certainly understand it.

But that doesn't influence the fact that the timing of the release was poor and is open for the criticism that's been directed at it plenty of times, like in the article referenced here.

And that's really the only point I'm trying to make. The timing of the move was of no good to anyone.

 

[Kevinicus]

That is the issue. Some of us don't care about Dez and are not sad and yes the Cowboys ultimately did gain financial reward by making the move. How they spend it is a different argument.

Again, you are confused. The issue is not whether or not they cut Dez and if that was the right move. The issue is the timing. That is what this thread is about.

 

[Kevinicus]

It is because if a player of that caliber were available later there's a reasonable chance of that player getting signed right away. Unlike Dez.

Dez isn't that player, so it is 100% irrelevant to this argument.

 

[Doomsday101]

The fact that he makes huge decisions based on when he feels like it and not when the NFL is actually doing business. Is that not clear to you?



I'm not either. But I can call out awful timing when it's obvious.



How about being in position to sign a possible replacement when they're available, and not when you get back from vacation? Should we start there?

What NFL time? They could cut him and take the hit on the remaining money right away and end up saving 8 million or designate him as a June 1st cut which would have rolled part of the bonus in 2019. As it stands now Cowboys have 8 mill freed up and Dez completely off the books. Teams release players before and after the draft, some will release players after June 1st. You have an issue with the timing well that is your issue. Cowboys did what they felt was right not some bogus NFL time, that is a complete Joke

 

[CowboyRoy]

Hate to belabor Dez stuff but since this was a stance some took here, I thought I’d at least report the article for board consumption


https://www.yahoo.com/sports/jerry-...boys-late-release-hurt-chances-150622751.html

But the Cowboys waited more than a month into free agency to cut him. Why? We really don’t know. The Cowboys have talked around that, but again, if they weren’t going to keep Bryant on a pay cut, there was no real reason to wait other than indecision. By April 13, the bulk of NFL free agency is done. Cutting Bryant late wasn’t a help to the Cowboys, who couldn’t use the cap savings on any top-shelf free agents, and it sure didn’t help Bryant.

I agree. Jones screwed Dez and Witten screwed Jones.

 

[Stash]

What NFL time? They could cut him and take the hit on the remaining money right away and end up saving 8 million or designate him as a June 1st cut which would have rolled part of the bonus in 2019. As it stands now Cowboys have 8 mill freed up and Dez completely off the books. Teams release players before and after the draft, some will release players after June 1st. You have an issue with the timing well that is your issue. Cowboys did what they felt was right not some bogus NFL time, that is a complete Joke

The "joke" is homer fans that try to defend everything their team does. Even the indefensible.

The timing is doing things during the active period of free agency. Making the move they would have made had they successfully grossly iverpaid Sammy Watkins the way they had wanted to.

If that move happened, Bryant was cut that same day. You know it. I know it.

 

[Doomsday101]

The "joke" is homer fans that try to defend everything their team does. Even the indefensible.

The timing is doing things during the active period of free agency. Making the move they would have made had they successfully grossly iverpaid Sammy Watkins the way they had wanted to.

If that move happened, Bryant was cut that same day. You know it. I know it.

How has this hurt the Cowboys? It hasn't. The crying over well Dez could not get a big contract from someone else because of the timing? I don't give a damn. You want to rail on the Cowboys fine, I have no issue with Dez release or the timing of it. He was counting 16.5 million and was 3rd in the NFL in dropped passes. You and others can boo hoo over Dez I'm done.

 

[Stash]

How has this hurt the Cowboys? It hasn't.

Could they have gotten a better replacement option if they had acted earlier, when the st of the league was making their moves? Yep. They sure could have. That's NFL time not Jones time.

The crying over well Dez could not get a big contract from someone else because of the timing? I don't give a damn. You want to rail on the Cowboys fine, I have no issue with Dez release or the timing of it. He was counting 16.5 million and was 3rd in the NFL in dropped passes. You and others can boo hoo over Dez I'm done.

Ok.

 

[OmerV]

"Still trying to make decisions." In other words - incompetence and indecision, which is what I have stated is what I think happened...and is not something they should be defended for.

No, those are your words, as ridiculous as they may be. It's stupid to think teams aren't making decisions all through free agency, and still making decisions up to the draft, during the draft and afterwards.

 

[G2]

No, those are your words, as ridiculous as they may be. It's stupid to think teams aren't making decisions all through free agency, and still making decisions up to the draft, during the draft and afterwards.

That's actually a fair point.

 

[Kevinicus]

No, those are your words, as ridiculous as they may be. It's stupid to think teams aren't making decisions all through free agency, and still making decisions up to the draft, during the draft and afterwards.

Of course they are, and nobody has suggested that they think that. However this was not something that came up out of the blue. Not all decisions are equal.