Yahoo: Jones put Dez in bad situation

[Doomsday101]

It has nothing to do wth "fans time frame" and everything to do with "NFL time frame." There's a time when the NFL conducts business and if Jerry Jones is vacationing at that time, that's a blunder on his part.

I think it took convincing for Jerry to pull the trigger. Fault him if you wish as far as I'm concerned Dallas did what they felt was in their interest just as Dez turned down the Ravens he felt was in his interest. How is it a blunder for the Cowboys? How did Dallas lose out by doing this? Seems to me the concern you have is for Dez not Dallas

 

[aikemirv]

It was not great timing for Dez but he needed to shut his mouth. I did not like the move to cut him but I am over it.

His immaturity I understood, considering his upbringing and lack of family life, but at some point you have to mature or these things are going to happen to you. He should have learned a lesson last year but he did not. At some point, just like TO, you are not worth the trouble you may potentially cause so teams shy away.

He may have to grovel his way back on a team, maybe in the long run that will be good for him.

 

[Diehardblues]

Which again has zero to do with this decision. Dance monkey, dance.



No sour grapes whatsoever. Nice try though.

No, I'm just capable of calling out stupid moves and bad timing for what they are.

I'll leave the constant excuses for everything this team does to the homer crowd.

It appears he has the sour grapes . He wanted Dez gone and doesnt care when the timing was.

I think most of us agree it was a solid Cap move without getting emotional about it. I’ve often been a Dez critic over the years. I’m just questioning the timing if it truly maximized a benefit for us? It certainly didn’t help Dez.

 

[Stash]

lol. Maybe so. But I think there's a lot that we as fans don't know and depending on a particular side a fan decides to take, things can begin to get assumed. I certainly would never call this FO mistake free, god no. But at the same time without all of the details and conversations between the FO and Dez, who knows?

On a side note, an interesting story I just heard from former OT Zack Strief.

He recounted his draft day experience regarding the Cowboys.

They called him in round four to tell him they were taking him. They didn't.

They called him in round five to tell him they were taking him. They didn't.

They called him back later to apologize and tell him they were taking him then.

After the Saints had already done it.

That icon is getting used again.

 

[hornitosmonster]

I'll say this again and maybe it will register. It's not about agreeing or disagreeing with the decision. It's pointing out the folly of the timing of it, and how they hurt the player and did nothing to help themselves. Maybe hearing it for the hundredth time will help it sink in.



That sounds a lot like the spite you referenced earlier. Certainly not indifference.



For all you know, they weren't. But it's another excuse, attempted to try to shine ****.

And you assume they didn't try for a trade. Just more ******** on the front office when you don't know. See how that works both ways.

And yeah, I love the move of cutting Dez Bryant. Dude is a cancerous waste of talent.

 

[Stash]

It appears he has the sour grapes . He wanted Dez gone and doesnt care when the timing was.

Exactly. The spite and vengeance are coming through loud and clear.

I think of us agree it was a solid Cap move without getting emotional about it. I’ve iften been a Dez critic over the years. I’m just questioning the timing if it truly maximized a benefit for us? It certainly didn’t help Dez.

It helped no one. But sadly, not everyone is capable of admitting that.

 

[Stash]

And you assume they didn't try for a trade. Just more ****ting on the front office when you don't know. See how that works both ways.

I'm not the guy trying to make **** up to try to defend them. That'd be you. I'll go by the facts that I do have, thanks.

And yeah, I love the move of cutting Dez Bryant. Dude is a cancerous waste of talent.

Oh that's clear. And it clouds your judgement regarding anything else. That's clear too.

 

[Diehardblues]

Obviously it was for Earl Thomas which unfortunately did not happen. The cap will be used

We shall see. Until it is it’s certainly open for criticism.

 

[G2]

On a side note, an interesting story I just heard from former OT Zack Strief.

He recounted his draft day experience regarding the Cowboys.

They called him in round four to tell him they were taking him. They didn't.

They called him in round five to tell him they were taking him. They didn't.

They called him back later to apologize and tell him they were taking him then.

After the Saints had already done it.

That icon is getting used again.

Lol, what the hell happened? Open bar?

 

[hornitosmonster]

Exactly. The spite and vengeance are coming through loud and clear.



It helped no one. But sadly, not everyone is capable of admitting that.

That is the issue. Some of us don't care about Dez and are not sad and yes the Cowboys ultimately did gain financial reward by making the move. How they spend it is a different argument.

 

[Stash]

I think it took convincing for Jerry to pull the trigger. Fault him if you wish as far as I'm concerned Dallas did what they felt was in their interest just as Dez turned down the Ravens he felt was in his interest. How is it a blunder for the Cowboys? How did Dallas lose out by doing this? Seems to me the concern you have is for Dez not Dallas

Timing is again the issue. If Jerry was the holdup, then it's on him.

You make decisions according to the NFL calendar, not Jerry's.

I think that you can see that as well, right?

 

[Stash]

Lol, what the hell happened? Open bar?

M

 

[Stash]

That is the issue. Some of us don't care about Dez and are not sad and yes the Cowboys ultimately did gain financial reward by making the move. How they spend it is a different argument.

I'm not asking you to be sad. I'm fine if you're happy that he's gone. I just wish that people could admit that the timing was poor and didn't do anyone any favors. The player or the team.

 

[hornitosmonster]

Timing is again the issue. If Jerry was the holdup, then it's on him.

You make decisions according to the NFL calendar, not Jerry's.

I think that you can see that as well, right?

Decision do not have to happen day one of the Calendar. You do understand that? Would it have helped Dez out (debatable -- he would not be on an NFC East team). Should the Cowboys taken consideration in regards to Dez when making the decision? Absolutely not. Did the Cowboys benefit from cutting Dez? Yes, they gained cap space.

 

[jsb357]

Dez came into the league as a dominate athlete.

And for a while in the NFL, being a dominate athlete can reap great rewards.

But as age and injuries start to take their toll you have to adapt and play smarter.

Do you really think Jerry Rice and Larry Fitzgerald did not adjust their game as they got older?

Dez was still paying the same style he did as the day he debuted in the league;
the problem is it was not effective anymore.

The NFL is not Oklahoma State where 90% of the guys defending you are future PE teachers,
engineers, and accountants. These are professional football players and if you cannot constantly
improve your game by adapting your skill set then you have a limited shelf life.

 

[Stash]

Decision do not have to happen day one of the Calendar. You do understand that? Would it have helped Dez out (debatable -- he would not be on an NFC East team). Should the Cowboys taken consideration in regards to Dez when making the decision? Absolutely not. Did the Cowboys benefit from cutting Dez? Yes, they gained cap space.

They would have gained the exact same cap space had they cut him months earlier. No benefit to the team whatsoever.

 

[Doomsday101]

Timing is again the issue. If Jerry was the holdup, then it's on him.

You make decisions according to the NFL calendar, not Jerry's.

I think that you can see that as well, right?

What is on him? You seem more concerned about Dez, I'm not. It hurt Dallas in no way what so ever. How did Dallas taking their time hurt the Cowboys? None that is how. What is the benefit to the Cowboys to release Dez according to the so called NFL calendar?

 

[G2]

I'm not asking you to be sad. I'm fine if you're happy that he's gone. I just wish that people could admit that the timing was poor and didn't do anyone any favors. The player or the team.

can we agree there are still some unknowns in regard to the timing?

 

[Stash]

What is on him?

The fact that he makes huge decisions based on when he feels like it and not when the NFL is actually doing business. Is that not clear to you?

You seem more concerned about Dez, I'm not.

I'm not either. But I can call out awful timing when it's obvious.

It hurt Dallas in no way what so ever. How did Dallas taking their time hurt the Cowboys? None that is how. What is the benefit to the Cowboys to release Dez according to the so called NFL calendar?

How about being in position to sign a possible replacement when they're available, and not when you get back from vacation? Should we start there?

 

[Stash]

can we agree there are still some unknowns in regard to the timing?

I'll go with what we do know rather than trying to invent "unknowns" so we can feel better about it.