Yahoo: Jones put Dez in bad situation

[hornitosmonster]

Point me to where it's advantageous to be last. We can proceed from there.

Once again, please indicate when free agency starts and stops. You asking an irrelevant question doesn't help your case. If anyone has fault it is Dez and his agent, contract did not have a roster bonus to be paid near the start of the new league year. That could have forced a cut early on. How are we last? Did we not sign a free agent WR?

 

[Stash]

Before he was cut. I thought I remember him being away and the team waited for him to return before they cut him. I can't find the article.

Does that make the situation appear to be any better for you?

 

[blueblood70]

what the F ever..Dez should have been proactive, for one NOT said publicly when the season frost ended he would NOT take pay cut..keep your mouth shut..what you should have done is scheduled a meeting early in the offseason and asked jerry and Stephen what you could do to help and negotiate a new contract..you let it go and forced the Cowboys hand..

than you foolishly turn down a fair offer from the Ravens only to hope you can stick it to the cowboys twice year, it shows a lack of professionalism and maturity..its why you were cut? live in your mistakes Dez.. they didnt do this on purpose the team voted you off long before you were cut but Jerry fought until the bitter end and finally gave in..Next time you are in this postion and want to keep your job, be smarter..

 

[Stash]

Once again, please indicate when free agency starts and stops. You asking an irrelevant question doesn't help your case.

I'm not the guy who needs any help here pal. That'd be you, continuing to embarrass yourself trying to twist this into anything other than the boneheaded mistake that it was. You're contorting more than an Olympic gymnast, and ruining your credibility with every post.

If anyone has fault it is Dez and his agent, contract did not have a roster bonus to be paid near the start of the new league year. That could have forced a cut early on. How are we last? Did we not sign a free agent WR?

"Last" in making key personnel decisions when they should be made. According to the NFL calendar, not the Jerry Jones vacation calendar.

It's an embarrassment.

 

[Diehardblues]

Wait, you think Brandon Marshall is not a big name? Think about that one...Between Marshall and Dez only one of them has two 1500 yard seasons under his belt.

Then why didn’t you just mention his name?

 

[Diehardblues]

He threw fans under the bus well before he was cut.
He threw coaches and players under the bus shortly after he was cut.
He was being interview within days.

The "timing" is being blown out of proportion and some are suggesting it was personal. As much of a pain Dez was I highly doubt the FO or staff gave him the screw out of spite.
Maybe they simply wanted to be certain they had replacements before. And we know JG was one of the last guys to agree to cutting him. We also know how ridiculous Jerry has been.
It was the right move. Focusing on the time he got cut won't change the opportunities Dez himself turned down.

I’m not disputing it was the right move. I’m questioning the timing of it.

 

[hornitosmonster]

I'm not the guy who needs any help here pal. That'd be you, continuing to embarrass yourself trying to twist this into anything other than the boneheaded mistake that it was. You're contorting more than an Olympic gymnast, and ruining your credibility with every post.



"Last" in making key personnel decisions when they should be made. According to the NFL calendar, not the Jerry Jones vacation calendar.

It's an embarrassment.

How was it a boneheaded mistake? If it happens day 1 or when it did it is still the same move on the Cowboys end. No money was lost on the Cowboys end as Dez did not have a roster bonus.

 

[Diehardblues]

How was it a boneheaded mistake? If it happens day 1 or when it did it is still the same move on the Cowboys end. No money was lost on the Cowboys end as Dez did not have a roster bonus.

So then it’s your theory we intended to just pocket the Cap savings with no intention of using it in FA to pursue other talent?

 

[Stash]

How was it a boneheaded mistake? If it happens day 1 or when it was did, it is still the same move on the Cowboys end.

For the 1000th time, because of the timing. The Cowboys would have inevitably cut Bryant if they had succeeded in grossly overpaying for Sammy Watkins. Why wait then when they didn't get him? Maybe they could have actually signed one of the better receivers when they were still finding new homes?

You know, when the rest of the NFL's free agency period takes place?

No money was lost on the Cowboys end as Dez did not have a roster bonus.

Again, you'll now try to run down another road to try to dismiss it. Nobody is saying anything about the bookkeeping of the move.

 

[Diehardblues]

I'm not the guy who needs any help here pal. That'd be you, continuing to embarrass yourself trying to twist this into anything other than the boneheaded mistake that it was. You're contorting more than an Olympic gymnast, and ruining your credibility with every post.



"Last" in making key personnel decisions when they should be made. According to the NFL calendar, not the Jerry Jones vacation calendar.

It's an embarrassment.

Right!!

It’s either sloppy or inconsiderate mgmt or we intended to thwart Dez possibilities so late in FA.

 

[Stash]

Right!!

It’s either sloppy or inconsiderate mgmt or we intended to thwart Dez possibilities so late in FA.

There was undeniably zero benefit for anyone involved as a result of the timing of the decision.

But some fans just can't admit that this team sometimes makes questionable decisions or outright mistakes.

They can't handle it.

 

[hornitosmonster]

For the 1000th time, because of the timing. The Cowboys would have inevitably cut Bryant if they had succeeded in grossly overpaying for Sammy Watkins. Why wait then when they didn't get him? Maybe they could have actually signed one of the better receivers when they were still finding new homes?

You know, when the rest of the NFL's free agency period takes place?



Again, you'll now try to run down another road to try to dismiss it. Nobody is saying anything about the bookkeeping of the move.

Check the NFL transaction reports. The Cowboys made moves despite what you think. Seems like you have sour grapes about cutting Dez Bryant. Well that ship has thankfully sailed

 

[G2]

Does that make the situation appear to be any better for you?

I don't really care either way. It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall with this FO.

 

[Stash]

Check the NFL transaction reports. The Cowboys made moves despite what you think.

Which again has zero to do with this decision. Dance monkey, dance.

Seems like you have sour grapes about cutting Dez Bryant. Well that ship has thankfully sailed

No sour grapes whatsoever. Nice try though.

No, I'm just capable of calling out stupid moves and bad timing for what they are.

I'll leave the constant excuses for everything this team does to the homer crowd.

 

[Stash]

I don't really care either way. It would be interesting to be a fly on the wall with this FO.

I think this icon would get used a lot!

 

[hornitosmonster]

There was undeniably zero benefit for anyone involved as a result of the timing of the decision.

But some fans just can't admit that this team sometimes makes questionable decisions or outright mistakes.

They can't handle it.

That is pure opinion. Bedsides, I call out Jerry all the time but in the case of Dez Bryant I agree with moving on without him. I don't care when the move happened, only that it happened. If Dez never plays another down in the NFL I frankly don't care and won't lose sleep over it. For all you know the Cowboys were trying to trade Dez, maybe to the Seahawks. You will never know what went on behind those closed doors.

 

[Diehardblues]

Check the NFL transaction reports. The Cowboys made moves despite what you think. Seems like you have sour grapes about cutting Dez Bryant. Well that ship has thankfully sailed

It was a sound Cap move releasing Dez.

But why didn’t we use the Cap savings to sign a veteran to an extended contract or pursue other FA?

Instead we just pocket the cash. That doesn’t bring up any questions in this for you with the timing?

 

[G2]

I think this icon would get used a lot!

lol. Maybe so. But I think there's a lot that we as fans don't know and depending on a particular side a fan decides to take, things can begin to get assumed. I certainly would never call this FO mistake free, god no. But at the same time without all of the details and conversations between the FO and Dez, who knows?

 

[hornitosmonster]

It was a sound Cap move releasing Dez.

But why didn’t we use the Cap savings to sign a veteran to an extended contract or pursue other FA?

Instead we just pocket the cash. That doesn’t bring up any questions in this for you with the timing?

Obviously it was for Earl Thomas which unfortunately did not happen. The cap will be used

 

[Stash]

That is pure opinion. Bedsides, I call out Jerry all the time but in the case of Dez Bryant I agree with moving on without him. I don't care when the move happened, only that is happened.

I'll say this again and maybe it will register. It's not about agreeing or disagreeing with the decision. It's pointing out the folly of the timing of it, and how they hurt the player and did nothing to help themselves. Maybe hearing it for the hundredth time will help it sink in.

If Dez never plays another down in the NFL I frankly don't care and won't lose sleep over it.

That sounds a lot like the spite you referenced earlier. Certainly not indifference.

For all you know the Cowboys were trying to trade Dez, maybe to the Seahawks.

For all you know, they weren't. But it's another excuse, attempted to try to shine ****.