Yahoo: Jones put Dez in bad situation

[cowboy_ron]

I agree. And I stated early on I thought Dez would renogiate. But Im not sure that was ever an option ?

The timing confuses me. I thought we’d use the Cap savings to pursue other talent . Like Crabtree or Someone on defense.

Hard to believe we are just pocketing the money. Who cares about the money? I’d rather have Dez another year than the money. And I can stand Dez.

No, in his demented way of thinking he thought he was elite and there would be multitude of teams lined up and give him a fill in the blank check to fill out.......then to see him turn in his mancard by the way he acted begging the Giants to sign him.....NOT to help them win but solely to try and "get back" at the Cowboys which I thought made him look so small by doing that.

 

[G2]

As much as couldn’t stand Dez the person and he was extremely over paid I really don’t care about the money saved if we aren’t using it elsewhere . Which if its just a money grab for one season I’d rather have his services one more year than the money if we aren’t using it.

Off season isn't over yet.

 

[OmerV]

Spite seems unlikely. Trade seems even more unlikely given it was widely known we were releasing him.

Accomplishing a trade may seem unlikely, or at the least, difficult, but that doesn't somehow mean the team wouldn't have tried anyway. After all, even if a team wasn't willing to give up a lot to make the trade, getting something for Dez would be better than getting nothing at all, so why wouldn't the team at least try?

Something I think fans tend to forget is that teams sometimes will make a trade even for a player they suspect might get released because in that way they are certain to get that player, whereas if the player is released there are 30 other teams that also may be in contention for that player. A team may not be willing to give up a lot for a player like that, but it's not unreasonable to think they might give up a late round draft pick, which again, for the Cowboys would be better than not getting anything.

 

[OmerV]

I agree. And I stated early on I thought Dez would renogiate. But Im not sure that was ever an option ?

The timing confuses me. I thought we’d use the Cap savings to pursue other talent . Like Crabtree or Someone on defense.

Hard to believe we are just pocketing the money. Who cares about the money? I’d rather have Dez another year than the money.

The media reported pretty heavily we were pursuing E Thomas, and we would have needed the money had that happened. Of course that may suggest another possibility - that they were thinking of moving on from Dez if they needed the money, but might keep him if they didn't. The ET deal was still being rumored up to the 2nd day of the draft, and as I recall there was actually a report the Cowboys were going to trade their 2nd round pick for ET. For all we know the Cowboys may have wanted to see if they would need the money for another player before making the final decision on Dez, but they eventually decided it was dragging on too long and let him go before they were able to find out.

 

[Diehardblues]

Accomplishing a trade may seem unlikely, or at the least, difficult, but that doesn't somehow mean the team wouldn't have tried anyway. After all, even if a team wasn't willing to give up a lot to make the trade, getting something for Dez would be better than getting nothing at all, so why wouldn't the team at least try?

Something I think fans tend to forget is that teams sometimes will make a trade even for a player they suspect might get released because in that way they are certain to get that player, whereas if the player is released there are 30 other teams that also may be in contention for that player. A team may not be willing to give up a lot for a player like that, but it's not unreasonable to think they might give up a late round draft pick, which again, for the Cowboys would be better than not getting anything.

I can’t imagine any team trading for his contract knowing we were going to release and could sign for much less. Makes no business sense.

 

[Diehardblues]

The media reported pretty heavily we were pursuing E Thomas, and we would have needed the money had that happened. Of course that may suggest another possibility - that they were thinking of moving on from Dez if they needed the money, but might keep him if they didn't. The ET deal was still being rumored up to the 2nd day of the draft, and as I recall there was actually a report the Cowboys were going to trade their 2nd round pick for ET. For all we know the Cowboys may have wanted to see if they would need the money for another player before making the final decision on Dez, but they eventually decided it was dragging on too long and let him go before they were able to find out.

If we had signed Thomas with the Cap savings it would have all made sense.

That’s where I’m at. If we aren’t using the Cap savings this year I’d of kept Dez another season.

 

[Kevinicus]

Of course you suggested that by saying that the Cowboys taking time while decisions equates to incompetence. You are setting a double standard by saying it makes sense for other teams, but not for Dallas.

Nobody has suggested releasing Dez was out of the blue. Everyone knew it was possible. But that doesn't mean the decision was final and unequivocal a month earlier. The Cowboys were still working free agency, and adjusting their draft needs based on free agency, just as other teams were doing, and as such its reasonable to think they may have been deferring the decision until all that was clearer.

No, I did not suggest that. What I said applied to this specific case only, not all teams and situations.

Looking at all that was done, we can see what they did re Dez.

 

[Kevinicus]

I have no problem with that at all. Imo, dez would have been wise to thank the organization for the opportunity and wish the cowboys well. Even if he didn't mean a word of it.

That very well may be true.

 

[Kevinicus]

He had previously and publically said he would not take a pay cut, so he was the one that took it off the table. Its a little disingenuous that he claimed after getting released that he would have taken a cut.

I kind of doubt it mattered though. Even if he would have accepted a pay cut, it's unlikely it would have been significant enough to matter.

Answering a media question does not take it off the table. A team isn't going to just go, "whelp, he told the reporter no, so no reason to ask now."

 

[Romo_To_Dez]

Dez's attitude in the Seattle game combined with him turning down the offer for the Ravens isn't doing him any favors right now. Still if some teams share the belief of some on this board about Dak being the true problem and not Dez then I wonder why no other team has tried to make him an offer to see if he clicks better with their QB.

 

[MyFairLady]

Freaking Jerry. The way he made Dez miss meetings, undermine his coaches, forget the plays, stop working out, cry for the ball, drop passes, etc etc etc.

 

[Darthkuriboh]

Not just Dez. Skeletor has been consistently putting the entire organization into a bad situation for hte last 22 years

 

[G2]

Dez's attitude in the Seattle game combined with him turning down the offer for the Ravens isn't doing him any favors right now. Still if some teams share the belief of some on this board about Dak being the true problem and not Dez then I wonder why no other team has tried to make him an offer to see if he clicks better with their QB.

That game was a pivotal point. There were many other examples of immaturity. Who wants that distraction?

 

[Alexander]

I am so not interested in a bleeding heart piece that claims that Jerry Jones screwed over Dez Bryant.

Jones is a certified imbecile, but nobody can suggest he did not put his own pair on the chopping block repeatedly for this player.

Now, poor Dez is without a team.

Don't care.

 

[OmerV]

I can’t imagine any team trading for his contract knowing we were going to release and could sign for much less. Makes no business sense.

Of course, while there was a distinct posibility Dez would be released, it was not a certainty, and, again, if he were released, a team that may have wanted him wouldn’t automatically get him over the other 30 teams.

But, as we know now, nobody was willing to trade for him. But that doesn’t mean the Cowboys should have conceded it without making the effort. The best interest of the team clearly would be to at least try.

 

[OmerV]

If we had signed Thomas with the Cap savings it would have all made sense.

That’s where I’m at. If we aren’t using the Cap savings this year I’d of kept Dez another season.

Since we presumably were still pursuing a deal for ET even up to the second day of the draft, you are talking about a scenario where, if we had traded our second round pick for ET as was reported would happen, then Dez wouldn’t have been released until 2 weeks after he was. How would that have helped Dez?

 

[OmerV]

No, I did not suggest that. What I said applied to this specific case only, not all teams and situations.

Looking at all that was done, we can see what they did re Dez.

That’s the point, you are applying criticism to one team while not applying the same criticism to other teams who did exactly the same thing. I don’t know how you think it makes your case stronger to admit you have a double standard.

 

[OmerV]

Answering a media question does not take it off the table. A team isn't going to just go, "whelp, he told the reporter no, so no reason to ask now."

I suppose Dez saying publically he won’t take a pay cut doesn’t mean the team couldn’t have asked anyway, but it’s still disingenuous of Dez to make that statement and then after the fact backpeddle and act as if he didn’t mean it At the very least it’s an indication he wasn’t willing to budge much, and the team almost certainly would have been looking for a big pay reduction.

 

[Captain-Crash]

If it wasn't this year it was going to be next year.

 

[Kevinicus]

I suppose Dez saying publically he won’t take a pay cut doesn’t mean the team couldn’t have asked anyway, but it’s still disingenuous of Dez to make that statement and then after the fact backpeddle and act as if he didn’t mean it At the very least it’s an indication he wasn’t willing to budge much, and the team almost certainly would have been looking for a big pay reduction.

It's an indication of negotiation. He'd be a full to just come out and say, "sure, absolutely."

I mean you don't expect him to *want* a paycut do you?