yall still think eli is better then romo?

[CATCH17]

He's certainly won more playoff games.

Me, I'd rather have some playoff wins than gaudy fantasy statistics.

Romo has only played 2 1/2 seasons though.

Right now I believe he is a better passer hands down.

If at the end of his career he never has any playoff success than i'll say Eli was better.

But right now Romo is a better Quarterback imo.

I don't think Eli could have near the success Romo does with as bad as we protect the QB at times.

 

[tomson75]

Welcome to another edition of "I'm going to make sweeping judgments based on the last game I saw played." The fact that the Eagles defense did a number on both of these guys is somehow overlooked. Yesterday, Flacco was deemed better than Tony, and today, Eli is supposedly worse.

Accept that myself and many others have pretty much always thought that Eli sucks. So I guess that'd make it the "judgement after watching him play football for several years" edition.

The "ring" argument is a weak one. If we had won a super bowl this year, that wouldn't make Montrea Holland a pro bowler in my eyes. Nor does the fact that Eli won one make him a good QB.

 

[28 Joker]

I'm not trying to fire any shots or be insulting, but you've got to be joking when you say the Eagles will lose to the Cardinals without a playmaker. If you don't recognize any playmakers on the eagles, you're blind. Not to mention the fact that "playmakers" come on both sides of the ball. In fact defensive playmakers win ballgame too.

Anyway, there are commonly more than one factor that determines which team will be victorioius.

PT

Thank you. I wanted the Giants out, and you probably know why. I told you the Eagles were very dangerous. (Top 5 offense and defense)

 

[GOLDENCHILD1688]

Accept that myself and many others have pretty much always thought that Eli sucks. So I guess that'd make it the "judgement after watching him play football for several years" edition.

The "ring" argument is a weak one. If we had won a super bowl this year, that wouldn't make Montrea Holland a pro bowler in my eyes. Nor does the fact that Eli won one make him a good QB.

thank you this wasnt based off of one week

but rather this thread was made to say eli looks exactly how he did today when asked to be a play maker rather then a game manager

which is what we and others have been saying all along

 

[bbgun]

Accept that myself and many others have pretty much always thought that Eli sucks. So I guess that'd make it the "judgement after watching him play football for several years" edition.

That's why I threw in the Flacco reference, and last night we saw a "Fitz is the greatest WR" thread--mere minutes after he finished a great game. Prediction: If Roeth or Rivers has a crappy game today, they too will be deemed inferior to Tony. That is, if they haven't been already.

 

[5Countem5]

That's why I threw in the Flacco reference, and last night we saw a "Fitz is the greatest WR" thread--mere minutes after he finished a great game. Prediction: If Roeth or Rivers has a crappy game today, they too will be deemed inferior to Tony. That is, if they haven't been already.

 

[CF74]

I'm not trying to fire any shots or be insulting, but you've got to be joking when you say the Eagles will lose to the Cardinals without a playmaker. If you don't recognize any playmakers on the eagles, you're blind. Not to mention the fact that "playmakers" come on both sides of the ball. In fact defensive playmakers win ballgame too.

Anyway, there are commonly more than one factor that determines which team will be victorioius.

PT

Your play maker is Westbrook, my bad. What I was trying to say was you don't have a top WR that dominates or draws double teams. You had TO but he was unhealthy in the Super Bowl. Having a game changer on the field makes all the difference in the world. McNabb always finds a way to win without one but has never done it down the stretch. Your team doesn't have that guy on the roster and I just don't see your team beating the Ravens in the Super Bowl without one, if they both get there that is...

 

[tomson75]

That's why I threw in the Flacco reference, and last night we saw a "Fitz is the greatest WR" thread--mere minutes after he finished a great game. Prediction: If Roeth or Rivers has a crappy game today, they too will be deemed inferior to Tony. That is, if they haven't been already.

Haha...I try and steer away form those for the most part. I will, however, stick my nose in the Eli threads. I've watched him far too closely(my pops is a Giants fan) to keep my mouth shut. IMO, the Giants are being help back by him. That's a good team that loses more games than it should....because of it's QB.

I don't really care to much about the Rivers/Flacco/Romo comparisons, as I'm not sold 100% on any of them. Obviously not Flacco. Hell, I'm worried as hell about Romo...but I'd still have the same opinion of Eli. I just think the guy is garbage.

The threads happen both ways...and neither one is a good thing.

 

[CutMeMick]

Yes- at this point I still say Eli's better than Romo.

Why? Because Eli has shown the capacity to be an effective
"bus driver", game manager, or whatever you wanna call it.
Two diffrent teams, 2 Qb's, 2 systems- but when called
upon to perform, Eli has done so. The record speaks for itself.
Tony, OTOH, has also been asked to perform. The fumbled
snap, the lack of a comeback against the Giants last year, &
the atrocious display in this year's Eagles game- those have been
the end results.
Once again, talk talent, stats, systems, OLines all you want.
At some point every QB is asked to step up, & seize the game, AND,
the "moment" for his team. To do something extraordinary, that'll
make a difference between a win & a loss.
Like it or not, we've seen Eli do that. Call it game mngmt if it makes
u feel better.
We have yet to see Romo, in a big spot, take that step.
He may in the future, but I MAY win the lottery.
Until he does it, I'd have to say Eli's better. Period.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Your play maker is Westbrook, my bad. What I was trying to say was you don't have a top WR that dominates or draws double teams. ...

Well, between you and me, I actually agree that Donovan McNabb would be even more effective with a top-notch Wide-receiver. But you have to admit, we aren't doing that bad so far.

PT

 

[CF74]

Well, between you and me, I actually agree that Donovan McNabb would be even more effective with a top-notch Wide-receiver. But you have to admit, we aren't doing that bad so far.

PT

That's all I'm saying. McNabb does a lot with what he has but in the end will it be enough when teams play all out? If you guys had a top notch receiver one more time and another RB, ahh never mind. You know it better than I do...

 

[BIGDen]

I spent some of the morning debating with Redraiderfan (or whatever his name is) about this, but then I had to go to a wake so I stopped. Another reason I stopped is that it was apparent that every good thing Eli has ever done was purely a product of his skills and everything Romo ever did was because guys were wide open. Everything negative associated with Romo was true of course and Eli did no wrong. I love that kind of objectivity.

Anyway, Eli and Romo are both good QBs. I would take Romo in a hearbeat because of his playmaking ability. Eli would have beem mamed behind Dallas' line the final month of the season. Look at how well Eli has done facing a big-time pass rush when his running game has faltered a bit (see Dallas game 2 and others). He looks bad - most QBs do. Romo made mistakes, but if you look at the whole picture you'll realize that he did better than many would have done. With the exception of the Eagles crazy/snowball effect of a game, he either won or had his team in position to win every game he started this year - and he WAS banged up. He was partly to blame for some of the losses, but he does a lot of things to put us in position to win that most other QBs simply cannot do.

 

[tomson75]

I spent some of the morning debating with Redraiderfan (or whatever his name is)

Masochist?

 

[BIGDen]

Phoenix -Talon CONGRATS!!! I was rooting for your Eagles big-time. I live in NJ and have to hear more Giants crap that anybody ever should. Of course I don't like the Eagles, but today I was as big a fan as you could have found. Now if the Steelers lose it will be a perfect Sunday. Oh and bad luck the rest of the way

 

[BIGDen]

Masochist?

I know, right?

 

[5Stars]

I know, right?

Not only are you a masoshist...you also don't know what a paragraph is!

 

[EPL0c0]

Which QB lead his team to a playoff appearance?

Until Romo wins a Super Bowl...sadly and unfortunately...yes

 

[romoluv]

What a QB needs is what McNabb got today and allows him to get by without a lot of playmakers at WR.

An O-Line that gives him time to make the plays.

Romo doesn't get there here, down the stretch, and as you saw today neither did Eli and what happens? They play like crap.

The sooner people realise that solid O-Line play, protecting their QB and keeping him clean, is the most important part of any offensive gameplan the sooner they're going to realise what will help a QB like Tony rise to the occassion and be able to make the plays you're looking for him to make.


Look back to last year for the Giants. The O-Line played great for Eli down the stretch and allowed him to make the plays he needed to, when he needed to make them, and that helped them get to the dance and win it.

This year they played more like our O-Line does down the stretch and Eli played poorly and the Giants are one and done because of it.

Exactly!!!

 

[BIGDen]

Not only are you a masoshist...you also don't know what a paragraph is!

Ok, but in my defense I WAS typing on a Blackberry and I was more focused on hitting those little keys rather than creating paragraphs. However, I apologize. Hey, at least I know the difference between "then and than"

 

[BIGDen]

What a QB needs is what McNabb got today and allows him to get by without a lot of playmakers at WR.

An O-Line that gives him time to make the plays.

Romo doesn't get there here, down the stretch, and as you saw today neither did Eli and what happens? They play like crap.

The sooner people realise that solid O-Line play, protecting their QB and keeping him clean, is the most important part of any offensive gameplan the sooner they're going to realise what will help a QB like Tony rise to the occassion and be able to make the plays you're looking for him to make.


Look back to last year for the Giants. The O-Line played great for Eli down the stretch and allowed him to make the plays he needed to, when he needed to make them, and that helped them get to the dance and win it.

This year they played more like our O-Line does down the stretch and Eli played poorly and the Giants are one and done because of it.

Damn you and your logic! Nice post. Stuff based on football knowledge...it's nice to read once in a while.