yall still think eli is better then romo?

[TwoDeep3]

Sorry, but I may go ahead and discuss it anyway.

The point was made that Eli is a better qb than Romo BECAUSE he won the Super Bowl. That's foolish.

Eli may well be better than Romo but it won't be because of a a Super Bowl win. It will be because of how he plays the position. It is a discussion of who is the better player not who won the Super Bowl. Marino was a better qb than Eli can ever dream of being, Fouts too.

I figured an old school type would know this.

However the discussion is not about retired guys that did not climb the mountain but two distinct players who are still in the game and of relative ages.

The mechanics of the position in relation to the two players is moot because this is a game where winning is the only thing that matters. Until Romo can win a SB, any discussion of his ability in contrast to Eli is negated because Eli has hardware and Romo doesn't.

And when you look at a list of the best QB's to play the game, why is it that Marino and all the other also-rans are not in the top slot?

Because winning is what this game is about.

Pretty passes and great stats don't mean crap. Marino in my opinion was a self-centered player that wanted to own the records over the titles. Hence his demand that the passiong game be the featured aspect of their offense over the running game.

He got what he wanted. And thus will have to stand behind the suspect arm of Montana, the rocket-launcher of Bradshaw, and the field generalship of Aikman.

Win one Danny and then we'll talk about where you stand in history.

 

[Joe Realist]

Romo would be Eli w/o his stud WR.

Eli has a ring, so yes he is better for now.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

like many of us said eli is effective as a game manager.

when he cant hide behind a power run game he struggles

let him run our offense and see how effective he is. no one is saying eli is a bum but his play is exaggerated

I don't know if the premise is correct but no way would we take the ball out of Romo's hands and run on 3rd and 4th down with the game on the line.

 

[Ren]

Romo makes more plays, Eli makes less mistakes. It's a toss up IMO

 

[burmafrd]

One ring = and you all think that is everything? BS.
Not to mention his one ring is nothing like say Montana's first ring or ROgers or pretty much pickem of the real greats. Eli played well and that is all. He did not make big plays to win games. His so called signature play was all on his WR for an incredible catch of a pass just thrown up there.
Romo has made some serious big plays. Now of COURSE this has not happened in playoff games- and that is a SERIOUS BLIGHT on Romo.
Up till recently you could make a case that Eli was right there with Romo in results and he had of course the ring so that it was indeed arguable that Eli could be ahead. Well recently and in this last PLAYOFF GAME especially Eli SUCKED. So whatever edge he MIGHT have had is NOW GONE.
You get that edge in a few games then you can LOSE it in a few games.

 

[28 Joker]

Romo rings = 0...Eli rings = 1...

game over...we can reasses after next year...and by the way, romo has a running game and receivers and a tight end and ughhhhhhh!!!!!!

Did Dan Marino win the Super Bowl?

Is Eli Manning better than him?

Dan Fouts?

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

Did Dan Marino win the Super Bowl?

Is Eli Manning better than him?

Dan Fouts?

true, by the SB win definition, then no sane Cowboy fan can argue Staubach was better than Aikman as Aikman has him 3-2 in SB wins and never lost one until Staubach who lost three.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Someone may have already pointed this out but I give all the credit to Jim Johnson. He gambled that NY would come out and play a certain way and his gameplan worked to near perfection.

 

[EveryoneElse]

neither eli nor mcflabb are half of what romo are

Both sides have a better defence and both have a better oline

also - desean jackson is a game changer that mcnabb has, he is one quick dude and we should have taken him ...

Thats debateable.

Eli and McNabb have come up big in big games in the past. Romo has done that ZERO times.

Romo isn't in their class, imo. Eli is a better QB at this point, and McNabb is without a doubt a better QB.

 

[TheCount]

Did Dan Marino win the Super Bowl?

Is Eli Manning better than him?

Dan Fouts?

Is this seriously your argument? You can't be serious.

Thats debateable.

Eli and McNabb have come up big in big games in the past. Romo has done that ZERO times.

Romo isn't in their class, imo. Eli is a better QB at this point, and McNabb is without a doubt a better QB.

Not true. Romo HAS won big games, just not when we needed them most.

McNabb's resume is better than Romo's, but he's also been around quite a bit longer.

 

[GOLDENCHILD1688]

SEE someone is still *****ing and moaning cause they got roasted in their own thread

so you post a gay *** picture. you probably got that on a t-shirt dont you? better yet tatted on ya arm. no homo

 

[gazmc_06]

neither eli nor mcflabb are half of what romo are

Both sides have a better defence and both have a better oline

also - desean jackson is a game changer that mcnabb has, he is one quick dude and we should have taken him ...

McNabb is a FAR superior QB to Tony IMO. I hate the guy, but he is a great QB who doesn't get the credit he deserves. If Owens would have stayed in Philly I think they would have a SB by now. I'm just hoping the Eagles don't get one this year.

 

[burmafrd]

A GREAT QB would not have puked and choked in the SB. Get off his nutsack.

 

[gazmc_06]

A GREAT QB would not have puked and choked in the SB. Get off his nutsack.

Romo choke's in regular season games. I never said McNabb was the best QB in the league, but he is far better than Tony and doesn't get enough credit.

 

[Phoenix-Talon]

Phoenix -Talon CONGRATS!!! I was rooting for your Eagles big-time. I live in NJ and have to hear more Giants crap that anybody ever should. Of course I don't like the Eagles, but today I was as big a fan as you could have found. Now if the Steelers lose it will be a perfect Sunday. Oh and bad luck the rest of the way

Thanks.

PT

 

[Chuck 54]

Yea, let's judge Romo by one stretch of games in which he was dealing with several injuries, including his grip on the ball...now let's judge a SB champion QB with one game against Philly without his #1 WR.

Typical knee jerk evaluations.

Eli is one of the better QBs in the NFL.

Romo is one of the most promising QBs in the NFL, and has shown great ability even though he has crumbled under every pressure game.

Both are young with their best QB days ahead of them.

 

[AmishCowboy]

All I'll say is Gosslein last week said that Romo was a top 8 QB in the league and that's still not good enough around here.

 

[Bleu Star]

SEE someone is still *****ing and moaning cause they got roasted in their own thread

so you post a gay *** picture. you probably got that on a t-shirt dont you? better yet tatted on ya arm. no homo

Roasted in my own thread? You really are dense. I recall influencing some rather interesting thoughts and stimulating conversation by posing the question. As a matter of fact, the thread is still floating around on top so it must have broughts something to the table. Don't get all wadded up because I talked about your golden boy Romo. He's not untouchable by any means.

 

[joseephuss]

Romo did lead his team down the field in the final seconds against the Giants last season. His receiver for some unknown reason quit on a route that should have been the game winner. On the final play no one got open and Romo had to throw the ball up and hope someone made a play. No one did.

Romo could have played better in that game. He also could have played worse. Considering how much pressure the Giants were able to put on Romo in that second half I am surprised he didn't play worse.

Romo led to first half 90 yard TD drives in the first half. Those are the kind of drives that usually lead to playoff wins. They produce points and wear down the opposing defense. Unfortunately the Dallas defense gave up two quick TD drives to the Giants in the first half.

It is a team sport. Romo has to improve especially late in the season. That is a fact, but it is also a fact that the whole team and organization has to improve late in the season. It is not just Romo alone. It is the whole team.

The Giants came together at the end of the 2007 season and won it all. It was a great accomplishment. They did not do the same in 2005 or 2006 or this year. In those years they melted down. They almost melted down in 2007 as well.

Eli was part of the great 2007 finish and he has also been part of the bad. I believe he deserves credit for winning a SB last year, but realistically he is not likely to win one again. He is just not that good. He has shown to be average for most of his career. Most QBs that have won more than one SB in the history of the NFL were the best of the game. Eli is not one of the best. Even if you think Eli is better than Romo you can't really say he is one of the greatest in the game. He just has not shown that in his game.

 

[Vtwin]

Did you all watch the fourth quarter yesterday?

Down by two scores and they wouldn't even let Eli throw it! Just kept handing it off. The very few times he was allowed to throw (while being down two scores in the fourth quarter of a playoff game) it was picked off or almost picked off.

That right there says all you need to know about Eli.

Not even in the top five QB's I would pick to start a team. Maybe not even top ten.