Yet Another Running Back Panic Thread

[xwalker]

I think the Cowboys would bring in Chris Johnson before traded for anyone.

It depends on the price. He does not want to play for anything close to the veterans minimum.

If I had made tens of millions, I probably wouldn't return and take the beating for 750K either.

 

[jnday]

I don't see any backup rb that will be better than what we have at rb now. Although I think McFadden is going to put up 1400 yards so that might have something to do with it

I think your hopes and dreams has everything to do with it. Of course I disagree and I think that there are many RBs around the league with more talent and they have the ability to stay healthy. I have a strong feeling that Willisms and DMac are going to take up roster spots with nagging injuries from week to week that prevents them from getting much production at all . If they keep four RBs, that means 50% will be hampered by injuries on anregular basis and one RB is a specialty back. That leaves Randle who is at his best with security guards chasing him for stealing underwear. If this is not a mess at the RB position, I don't know what it is.

 

[xwalker]

If we can get the Hulk to play DT, I'm pretty sure he'd be a good 1-tech and 3-tech at the same time...and we save yet another roster spot.

Would you need the other 10 players?

Offenses could just be extra nice to him and he would revert back to Bruce Banner (I had to think about his real name, I always just think Bill Bixby).

 

[LatinMind]

Fred Jackson (Bills)
Stephon Taylor (Az)
Giovani Bernard or Jeremy Hill (Cincy)
Jerick McKinnon (Vikes)
Chris Michael (Hags)

I wouldnt cry one bit if Dallas traded Leary and Randle for Tre Mason

 

[xwalker]

The reasons to trade that you speak of are typically created by injuries. Injuries typically do not start popping up until training camp, so for the time being we can garner what fun we can from a hypothetical question. Who would you target that is a backup and an improvement over what the Cowboys already have?

I'm not poo-pooing your question. It's actually a good question. I'm just stating the parameters that you should look at when trying to find a good fit.

I don't keep up with other teams roster closely enough. I think Cleveland and Miami might have some depth.

It also depends on the time-frame. I assumed that you were referring to now. If the Cowboys get to the end of training camp or early in the season and have problems, then I think they would consider giving up a premium pick to get a premium player. As of right now, I think they'll just go with what they have and keep their eyes out for any bargains.

 

[jday]

I think your hopes and dreams has everything to do with it. Of course I disagree and I think that there are many RBs around the league with more talent and they have the ability to stay healthy. I have a strong feeling that Willisms and DMac are going to take up roster spots with nagging injuries from week to week that prevents them from getting much production at all . If they keep four RBs, that means 50% will be hampered by injuries on anregular basis and one RB is a specialty back. That leaves Randle who is at his best with security guards chasing him for stealing underwear. If this is not a mess at the RB position, I don't know what it is.

It's a very interesting mix of RB's. Dependent on how you choose to look at it, it could be the roster competition of training camp or a winner-by-default situation. What we have is five running backs who are being dealt what very well could be their last chance to make a significant splash in their career. Sure, these same players may pick up somewhere else next year as a back up or another committee experiment, but if they can't get it done as a starter behind the Cowboys line, they won't be able to get it done anywhere. So, at least there is no lack of reason to be motivated as they prepare themselves for the upcoming roster position battle.

 

[jday]

I'm not poo-pooing your question. It's actually a good question. I'm just stating the parameters that you should look at when trying to find a good fit.

I don't keep up with other teams roster closely enough. I think Cleveland and Miami might have some depth.

It also depends on the time-frame. I assumed that you were referring to now. If the Cowboys get to the end of training camp or early in the season and have problems, then I think they would consider giving up a premium pick to get a premium player. As of right now, I think they'll just go with what they have and keep their eyes out for any bargains.

Not saying you were; I was merely pointing out that at present the reasons for other teams to want to trade aren't really there. But give it some time and injuries will start popping up. That's where the Cowboys might get lucky...

Obviously, the ideal scenario is that Joseph Randle or other emerges as a solid contributor, but for now, I have my doubts.

 

[jday]

I wouldnt cry one bit if Dallas traded Leary and Randle for Tre Mason

I think that might be giving up a bit much. Leary is a starter and Randle not only is excellent with limited carries, he is also a solid contributor on Special Teams.

 

[jday]

Would you need the other 10 players?

Offenses could just be extra nice to him and he would revert back to Bruce Banner (I had to think about his real name, I always just think Bill Bixby).

Depends on the super heroes the other teams get to work with. If Bane is the opposing teams center, you are definitely going to need the other 10 guys.

 

[jobberone]

If we can get the Hulk to play DT, I'm pretty sure he'd be a good 1-tech and 3-tech at the same time...and we save yet another roster spot.

Yeah, as long as he stays angry.

And we could just put him on the DL and use ten as LBers/DBs.

We should have drafted him.

 

[DFWJC]

I wouldnt cry one bit if Dallas traded Leary and Randle for Tre Mason

He did look pretty good on occasion last year.

Leary is a starting OG who only turned 26 in April.
Randle is still fairly unknown (so legit to have questions) but he gave no evidence last year that he couldn't be pretty good.

SL would maybe make that trade for Leary straight up

 

[jday]

Yeah, as long as he stays angry.

And we could just put him on the DL and use ten as LBers/DBs.

We should have drafted him.

It's football. He is on the defensive line. The opposing OL, I am sure, will give him plenty of reasons to be angry. Then the Cowboys can franchise him at the end of his contract, and he would have a steady source of reason to be angry...at least, if he is anything like Dez Bryant, that is.

 

[darthseinfeld]

If Mike Davis tears it up on TC, maybe Carlos Hyde.

They have Kendell Hunter and Reggie Bush as well

 

[jday]

He did look pretty good on occasion last year.

Leary is a starting OG who only turned 26 in April.
Randle is still fairly unknown (so legit to have questions) but he gave no evidence last year that he couldn't be pretty good.

SL would maybe make that trade for Leary straight up

That's what I'm thinking...and maybe swap a 5th for the Cowboys 7th.

 

[darthseinfeld]

I wouldnt cry one bit if Dallas traded Leary and Randle for Tre Mason

I think Tre Mason would run for 1,500 yards here

 

[xwalker]

Yeah, as long as he stays angry.

And we could just put him on the DL and use ten as LBers/DBs.

We should have drafted him.

The Packers once thought they had drafted The Hulk, but it turned out that it was Steroids, not anger that turned Tony Mandarich into the Hulk.

 

[jday]

If Mike Davis tears it up on TC, maybe Carlos Hyde.

They have Kendell Hunter and Reggie Bush as well

Carlos Hyde would be a good fit, scheme-wise, and I think he would be a great chain-mover, but he is not a threat to take it to the house, in my opinion, like I would like the starting running back to be. I get that you can't have it all, but that's my only issue with him. Other than that minuscule complaint, I would feel alot better about the Cowboys prospect with Hyde on the team.

 

[DFWJC]

If Mike Davis tears it up on TC, maybe Carlos Hyde.

They have Kendell Hunter and Reggie Bush as well

Carlos Hyde will start, is my guess.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I watch Fred on a weekly basis out here in western NY and the last couple of years his age has caught up to him. He's always nicked up and he no longer has the burst he had earlier in his career. I doubt he could give the Cowboy 150 carries and I don't see him having a better YPC average than Randle or McFadden.

I watched some Bills game last year to see what Orton was doing. I thought Jackson was alright. The offense seemed helter skelter. The OL wasn't athletic or overpowering. Watkins was inconsistent in his rookie campaign. I thought they were a bit ham handed trying to force the issue. The run/pass split was pretty skewed to the pass. Maybe it was all the checkdowns they ended up throwing to him but I thought Jackson was an effective running back.

I hadn't seen what he was in previous years. His trajectory is clearly on the way down. Makes sense. That being said if the guys we have implode we could do worse.

 

[xwalker]

I wouldnt cry one bit if Dallas traded Leary and Randle for Tre Mason

Take out the 52-0 win over Oakland and he has 8 career starts for a 3.6 ypc average.

He is smallish to be a primary back, He was 5-8.5", 207 at draft time. For comparison Lance Dunbar was 5-8, 205. Reports indicated Mason is not down to between 195 and 200.

I guess Leary and Randle for a 3rd round pick in his 2nd year is not unreasonable, but he is far from a proven commodity.

Apparently, he was inactive the 1st four games because of problems with pass protection. I don't know if that drastically improved or he they just didn't have better options.