Yet Another Running Back Panic Thread

[Jstopper]

I think your hopes and dreams has everything to do with it. Of course I disagree and I think that there are many RBs around the league with more talent and they have the ability to stay healthy. I have a strong feeling that Willisms and DMac are going to take up roster spots with nagging injuries from week to week that prevents them from getting much production at all . If they keep four RBs, that means 50% will be hampered by injuries on anregular basis and one RB is a specialty back. That leaves Randle who is at his best with security guards chasing him for stealing underwear. If this is not a mess at the RB position, I don't know what it is.

I'm not sure about Williams he had knee swelling in ota so he might not be able to contribute much to the rb position. I have a strong feeling you're completely wrong about McFadden and he will be punching his ticket to the probowl this year. He is a complete back and he is gonna tear it up this year

 

[Jstopper]

Fair argument. It is certainly not outside the realm of possibility that someone on the roster currently will emerge as a viable option...I'm just not counting on it.

Not to beat a dead horse but I remember having conversations with you last summer about us feeling different about how good our season was about to go. I'm going to have to disagree with you again, especially after I saw that video that was posted yesterday that showed how bad McFadden line was. He is gonna tear it up imo. Guess we'll have to see who is correct this time.

 

[jday]

I'm not sure about Williams he had knee swelling in ota so he might not be able to contribute much to the rb position. I have a strong feeling you're completely wrong about McFadden and he will be punching his ticket to the probowl this year. He is a complete back and he is gonna tear it up this year

Love the enthusiasm, but honestly with his constant issues with nagging injuries, I really hope he is not the one who emerges, if anyone does in fact emerge. I simply do not trust him to stay healthy for an entire season. Granted, I could have said the same thing about Demarco at this time last year, but for me the difference in this situation is that the Cowboys entire team was one big question mark last year, whereas this year, for me, outside of the Dez fiasco, running back is the only real question.

 

[jday]

Not to beat a dead horse but I remember having conversations with you last summer about us feeling different about how good our season was about to go. I'm going to have to disagree with you again, especially after I saw that video that was posted yesterday that showed how bad McFadden line was. He is gonna tear it up imo. Guess we'll have to see who is correct this time.

I definitely recall having conversation with you, but forgive me if I don't remember the topic. Last year, I wasn't necessarily doom-and-gloom; I remember that distinctly, but, admittedly, I did not have high hopes. This year, I'm honestly about the same because the Cowboys are not going to sneak up on anyone, like they did last year and the player behind the predominant reason for their success, in my opinion, now plays for the Eagles. Not saying Demarco did it all by himself and I agree with those who believe he left some yards on the field, but I do not think we have found his replacement...yet. Who knows, come training camp one of the last-chance-charlies might prove he has something after all..but like I said before, for the time being with the information I have at my disposal at this given time, I still have my doubts.

 

[Alexander]

. I have a strong feeling you're completely wrong about McFadden and he will be punching his ticket to the probowl this year.

 

[jday]

Silent treatment, eh? Perfectly understandable.

 

[LatinMind]

Take out the 52-0 win over Oakland and he has 8 career starts for a 3.6 ypc average.

He is smallish to be a primary back, He was 5-8.5", 207 at draft time. For comparison Lance Dunbar was 5-8, 205. Reports indicated Mason is not down to between 195 and 200.

I guess Leary and Randle for a 3rd round pick in his 2nd year is not unreasonable, but he is far from a proven commodity.

Apparently, he was inactive the 1st four games because of problems with pass protection. I don't know if that drastically improved or he they just didn't have better options.

STL oline is bad. They got their QBs killed last yr. All their RBs couldnt do anything except Mason. And they went thru all of them. 7 of the 12 games he played against were against top 10 defenses. and 5 of them games were against top 5 defenses. To break it down more, 6 of them games were against top 5 def against the run. Including 3 games against the top 2 defenses against the run.

Add to that he had no QB and WR help. As the rams couldnt throw to save a life. 23rd in the nfl.

And ill add it doest matter if the RB is 200 or 230lbs if there are no lanes he isnt going anywhere. but ill add Mason frame isnt small. He's short but he is built well.

By the way in those 7 games against the top 10 defenses he had a 4.4 yrd per carry avg

 

[jday]

STL oline is bad. They got their QBs killed last yr. All their RBs couldnt do anything except Mason. And they went thru all of them. 7 of the 12 games he played against were against top 10 defenses. and 5 of them games were against top 5 defenses. To break it down more, 6 of them games were against top 5 def against the run. Including 3 games against the top 2 defenses against the run.

Add to that he had no QB and WR help. As the rams couldnt throw to save a life. 23rd in the nfl.

And ill add it doest matter if the RB is 200 or 230lbs if there are no lanes he isnt going anywhere. but ill add Mason frame isnt small. He's short but he is built well.

By the way in those 7 games against the top 10 defenses he had a 4.4 yrd per carry avg

He might be an improvement over what the Cowboys already have, but I still say sending both Leary and Randle would be a bit much.

 

[LatinMind]

He might be an improvement over what the Cowboys already have, but I still say sending both Leary and Randle would be a bit much.

maybe, dallas could probably get a mid pick there too. But IMO Learys days in Dallas are numbered. They are grooming Collins for that LG spot

 

[Jstopper]

Later

 

[darthseinfeld]

maybe, dallas could probably get a mid pick there too. But IMO Learys days in Dallas are numbered. They are grooming Collins for that LG spot

Honestly unless Collins bombs or Free cant go, I dont think Leary has a shot at beating Collins. Leary is solid, but Kyle Koiser solid. They are on 2 different levels IMO

 

[darthseinfeld]

McFadden has never been able to stay healthy. Thats never gonna change. Even if he comes out as the best runner we have he shouldnt be given any more then 170 carries

 

[DFWJC]

Honestly unless Collins bombs or Free cant go, I dont think Leary has a shot at beating Collins. Leary is solid, but Kyle Koiser solid. They are on 2 different levels IMO

Eventually that may be true. I don't think that's at all the case this year.

 

[LatinMind]

Eventually that may be true. I don't think that's at all the case this year.

I dont either. Eventually yes. Collins hasnt proven anything yet

 

[darthseinfeld]

Eventually that may be true. I don't think that's at all the case this year.

I dont either. Eventually yes. Collins hasnt proven anything yet

Admittingly a projection on my part, but I think once live practice's roll out Collins is going to outplay Leary.

Its not to say I think Leary is a weak link or a guy that needs to be replaced. I just think Collins will prove pro ready and a better player

 

[jday]

Honestly unless Collins bombs or Free cant go, I dont think Leary has a shot at beating Collins. Leary is solid, but Kyle Koiser solid. They are on 2 different levels IMO

I'm not so sure that Collins can come right out of the gate, pick up the playbook like Leary should have by now, and straight up win that LG spot. Maybe mid-season to next season, but for right now he may contribute from the bench better since unlike Leary, he could probably fill in ably for Free, as well, should he be needed in that capacity.

 

[jday]

Admittingly a projection on my part, but I think once live practice's roll out Collins is going to outplay Leary.

Its not to say I think Leary is a weak link or a guy that needs to be replaced. I just think Collins will prove pro ready and a better player

I would like to think so, but you just never know with college players making that transition from college to pro's. The rookies that come out right out of the gate and dominate are rare and to beat Leary, that's pretty much what Collins will have to do in my opinion. The other side to this that you might not be considering is that right now the Cowboys have Collins on a steal of a deal. It would be in their best interest to let him work as a reliever so that he doesn't of a sudden justify a pay raise going into the next season.

 

[jnday]

It's a very interesting mix of RB's. Dependent on how you choose to look at it, it could be the roster competition of training camp or a winner-by-default situation. What we have is five running backs who are being dealt what very well could be their last chance to make a significant splash in their career. Sure, these same players may pick up somewhere else next year as a back up or another committee experiment, but if they can't get it done as a starter behind the Cowboys line, they won't be able to get it done anywhere. So, at least there is no lack of reason to be motivated as they prepare themselves for the upcoming roster position battle.

With the troubles that DMac has had running behind a zone blocking system, I question his signing more than any signing that Dallas has made in the last few years. He just doesn't fit the system at all and his attempts to run behind a ZBS was a failure. I would like to see a trade for a young RB that has the size and ability to get the tough yards. Dallas will have several comp picks next year, so trading one of their regular picks wouldn.'the hurt their draft that much. I am for anything that will bring a better RB to the roster., and yes, I mean anything.

 

[big dog cowboy]

With the troubles that DMac has had running behind a zone blocking system, I question his signing more than any signing that Dallas has made in the last few years. He just doesn't fit the system at all and his attempts to run behind a ZBS was a failure. I would like to see a trade for a young RB that has the size and ability to get the tough yards. Dallas will have several comp picks next year, so trading one of their regular picks wouldn.'the hurt their draft that much. I am for anything that will bring a better RB to the roster., and yes, I mean anything.

We know.

 

[DanTanna]

I want a young RB.

Christine Michael was my very first choice. Robert Turbin in right there at 1B.