You don't move on from Dak unless you have The Franchise already on the roster

[Blitzen]

I just said the pro Romo crowd can’t handle the Dak discussion for whatever reason. I don’t know why that is.

Explain more about how those individuals cannot handle the Dak discussion-they cannot discuss the extension? His play?

 

[Blitzen]

I do think Dak and Burrow are closer to each other than Burrow and Mahomes. I feel Mahomes is in a league of his own.

I like Burrow. Not slandering him. I just don’t know how and when he became “elite”….i think the jury is still out there.

I think he became elite by going to a SB his second year and to a 2nd consecutive CCG versus Pat-winning the first. Those are enormous games with lots at stake-and he played like he belonged.

I think too many forget just how awful those Bengals teams were just a few years ago. Burrow transformed them into a contender (yes of course having the weapons helps). I think he is right there with Mahomes but Andy and Spagnuolo run a better show. Pat has better mobility and can use that when necessary.

That gap for me is an ocean between Dak and either one.

 

[khiladi]

excuses!...really excuses!? like Lamb dropped a ball so then Dalton threw an interception...LOL. yeah. excuses. do you even listen to yourself.

Dalton put up 34..wow........against teams with injuries and back up QBs...so its ironic, you come up with excuses for Dalton dealing with injuries on the team, but totally ignore it for other teams he played against. I mean he went head to head with Nick Mullins (who?) and SF team that was 5-9 at the time and went 6-10...and the defense scored in that game to help him win by one score..... and Dalton got BLOWN out against teams who had their starting QBs. BLOWN OUT. totaling 39 points in 4 games he got BLOWN out....he beat two 4-11 teams on his way to his 3 wins...wow. color me impressed. beating up on losing teams...then in the same breath you criticize Dak for beating bad teams... so essentially he didn't beat any team with more than 5 wins.....even lost to the Giants in the last and most important game of the year for him....he had ZERO wins against any team with a winning record.


dude. dude..DUUUUDDDE...just give it up on Dalton. in his career he was 0-5 in playoffs. he was 0-12 in games of win or go home. the guy plain sucked.

I swear you can't make this stuff up...its so real, its freaking funny

So many excuses.. follow me here, my man. We are comparing Dalton to Dak…

1. Where is the excuse for Dalton not having a single STARTER on OL? Dak had Zach Martin.

2. Dak won a single game, because Atlanta decided not to fall on the ball on a kick.
Dak was getting destroyed in 2020. Dalton was BETTER THAN DAK.

2. You mean Dalton puts up points against bad teams, like Dak does?

Now you are getting it buddy..

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Dak hasn;t smelled a conference championship let alone a SB.

So your hamer is a feather.

Let's give Dak the chance to take his team to the super bowl FIRST. Then we can decide if he's a super bowl choker or super bowl champ.

So far one has...and one hasn't.

What’s your point? Or wait….is this HYPERBOLE?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Explain more about how those individuals cannot handle the Dak discussion-they cannot discuss the extension? His play?

I mean when you resort to saying things like Dak is worse then a 8!m year old it’s kind of hard to take their opinion serious.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I think he became elite by going to a SB his second year and to a 2nd consecutive CCG versus Pat-winning the first. Those are enormous games with lots at stake-and he played like he belonged.

I think too many forget just how awful those Bengals teams were just a few years ago. Burrow transformed them into a contender (yes of course having the weapons helps). I think he is right there with Mahomes but Andy and Spagnuolo run a better show. Pat has better mobility and can use that when necessary.

That gap for me is an ocean between Dak and either one.

So Eli Manning was elite to you then?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

So many excuses.. follow me here, my man. We are comparing Dalton to Dak…

1. Where is the excuse for Dalton not having a single STARTER on OL? Dak had Zach Martin.

2. Dak won a single game, because Atlanta decided not to fall on the ball on a kick.
Dak was getting destroyed in 2020. Dalton was BETTER THAN DAK.

2. You mean Dalton puts up points against bad teams, like Dak does?

Now you are getting it buddy..

wow, so what's the excuse with Dalton not once beating another starting QB?
At least now you Admitted that Dalton put up points against bad teams with injuries.

at least you were able to take a deep breath taking your head of Dalton's rear. take another deep breath before you dive in again.

Dalton Sucked. he was 0-5 in playoffs. 0-12 in win or go home in his career. he did the same in dallas too. he didn't beat any team with a winning record. he only beat teams missing starters and dealing with injuries (I find it funny you talk about injuries to Dallas, but TOTALLY ignore injuries to the opposition, yeah those don't matter because it makes your line of argument fall apart, so ignore it).

btw, you did know Tyron Smith got injured in the second game of that season? you are aware of that since you are keeping track of injuries. you do realize Martin played 10 games including the games Dalton led team got blown out? you did know that? right? you were aware? right? or did your emotions get the best of you again and you just rambled on?

also, congratulations for following my lead....it took you several responses to get it. you are a slow study.

 

[Vtwin]

I mean when you resort to saying things like Dak is worse then a 8!m year old it’s kind of hard to take their opinion serious.

Good morning Captain S.

After reading that back and forth about hyperbole, this seems like an extremely odd thing to say?

Did you really think he actually meant that an 8 year old JB would be better than a 30 year old Dak with a bonus 100 years of age free practice time?

If so, this really explains a lot. I guarantee you are the only one here that wasn't able to pull the intended meaning out of the obvious hyperbole in that statement.

 

[Flamma]

Burrow got to a SB and lost. He had a chance at a last ditch drive to tie the game or win it and failed. Had that been Dak he would have gotten trashed and called a choker.

That's kind of a wild hypothetical. Did they brand Kaepernick or Russel Wilson a choker? Usually QBs branded a choker earn that title by never coming close to getting to a SB in the first place.

 

[Blitzen]

I mean when you resort to saying things like Dak is worse then a 8!m year old it’s kind of hard to take their opinion serious.

Just my opinion of their God given talent. Burrow had more entering the league than Dak will ever have-no matter what Dak does to try to improve on it.

I never said he was worse than an 8 year old-just that he lacked the same amount of talent as Joe Burrow when Joe was 8.

Plus-weren’t you you trying to tell me about this Pro-Romo crowd or are you changing topics again? Originally, the OP was commenting about a Dak extension. Somehow the topic of Romo gets dragged into the conversation. I asked why some were worried about letting go of the glory that is Dak and you asked why I’m not asking about those holding onto Romo. I asked why that had anything to do with holding onto Dak and that no one seems to be saying Romo needs to come back as QB. You typically run the other direction from direct questions. Why are you holding onto the glory that is Dak Prescott-what is it about his performances besides stats versus poor defenses that makes his fans want to see more years added to his contract?

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Good morning Captain S.

After reading that back and forth about hyperbole, this seems like an extremely odd thing to say?

Did you really think he actually meant that an 8 year old JB would be better than a 30 year old Dak with a bonus 100 years of age free practice time?

If so, this really explains a lot. I guarantee you are the only one here that wasn't able to pull the intended meaning out of the obvious hyperbole in that statement.

Well your buddy @SteveTheCowboy Lover told me it meant lying so are you accusing Blitz of lying? No bueno.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Just my opinion of their God given talent. Burrow had more entering the league than Dak will ever have-no matter what Dak does to try to improve on it.

I never said he was worse than an 8 year old-just that he lacked the same amount of talent as Joe Burrow when Joe was 8.

Plus-weren’t you you trying to tell me about this Pro-Romo crowd or are you changing topics again? Originally, the OP was commenting about a Dak extension. Somehow the topic of Romo gets dragged into the conversation. I asked why some were worried about letting go of the glory that is Dak and you asked why I’m not asking about those holding onto Romo. I asked why that had anything to do with holding onto Dak and that no one seems to be saying Romo needs to come back as QB. You typically run the other direction from direct questions. Why are you holding onto the glory that is Dak Prescott-what is it about his performances besides stats versus poor defenses that makes his fans want to see more years added to his contract?

I have literally answered you question about Romo at least twice. You seem to be the one harping on this issue and further proving that you can’t handle this Dak discussion. If posters want to bring up Romo in their posts they have that right. Who cares? Why does it bother you so much?

I think a lot of us Dak fans are ready for him to leave so you fans can get your next Paxton Lynch and Johnny Football. That way we truly suck and start collecting top 5 picks and truly rebuild because guys like Parsons and Lamb will ask for trades.

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

I don't know what Burrow has done, but the Bengals have either gone to the championship game or super bowl in years Burrow wasn't injured.

When healthy I think he's the second best QB in the league. Who knows if that will continue with his injuries but even last year the Bengals went as he went.

 

[Blitzen]

So Eli Manning was elite to you then?

Context is important. Those two QB’s has vastly different supporting casts and performances during regular seasons and in their playoff games (specifically on their deep postseason runs).

Eli’s offense was heavily run based in both of their SB runs. They ground opponents down with their rushing attack (vastly superior offensive line compared to anything the Bengals have trotted out there), but he did have a good drive here and there. Spagnuolo was their defensive coordinator at the time and he was exceptional at pass rushing and coordinating all defensive aspects. Cincinnati played good defense during their run, but was not some stacked pass rushing juggernaut like those two Giants’ squads.

Cincinnati’s offense was far more dependent on Joe’s arm to not only keep them in games, but to win games. The two teams were so different. Burrow’s production versus the best defenses is stark not only compared to Eli, but to lots of his current peers.

 

[Blitzen]

I have literally answered you question about Romo at least twice. You seem to be the one harping on this issue and further proving that you can’t handle this Dak discussion. If posters want to bring up Romo in their posts they have that right. Who cares? Why does it bother you so much?

I think a lot of us Dak fans are ready for him to leave so you fans can get your next Paxton Lynch and Johnny Football. That way we truly suck and start collecting top 5 picks and truly rebuild because guys like Parsons and Lamb will ask for trades.

So you are ready to move on from Dak? Good-now we have an accord. I’m laughing that those are the only options when moving on from Dak though…

If Dak fans do not believe the Cowboys are able to suitably replace Dak, what makes them want to see the Cowboys try to build a championship roster to properly surround Dak (they believe the Cowboys can do that?).

 

[Vtwin]

Oh look.
Another avoidance of the question and a strawman.

Go figure....

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Context is important. Those two QB’s has vastly different supporting casts and performances during regular seasons and in their playoff games (specifically on their deep postseason runs).

Eli’s offense was heavily run based in both of their SB runs. They ground opponents down with their rushing attack (vastly superior offensive line compared to anything the Bengals have trotted out there), but he did have a good drive here and there. Spagnuolo was their defensive coordinator at the time and he was exceptional at pass rushing and coordinating all defensive aspects. Cincinnati played good defense during their run, but was not some stacked pass rushing juggernaut like those two Giants’ squads.

Cincinnati’s offense was far more dependent on Joe’s arm to not only keep them in games, but to win games. The two teams were so different. Burrow’s production versus the best defenses is stark not only compared to Eli, but to lots of his current peers.

So Eli having two rings and beating a Brady led Pats team twice and going 2-0 in the SB is not elite but Burrow is? You’re not keeping the same energy.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

So you are ready to move on from Dak? Good-now we have an accord. I’m laughing that those are the only options when moving on from Dak though…

If Dak fans do not believe the Cowboys are able to suitably replace Dak, what makes them want to see the Cowboys try to build a championship roster to properly surround Dak (they believe the Cowboys can do that?).

Well Dak fans aren’t physics….all we can do is go on past history. We haven’t used a top 5 pick on a QB. But we also rarely get top 5 picks. But once we move on from Dak guys like Parsons and Lamb will request trades and probably Diggs and we can trade them and really suck. Probably can get a nice haul for Daron Bland too since he’s still on his rookie Dak.

 

[TwentyOne]

I mean he was superior to him IMO. Dak had the locker room, he was more mobile, played smarter…..I don’t see how that’s not superior. He did light up the Eagles for one seeker though in a meaningless game.

As i already explained.

 

[Blitzen]

So Eli having two rings and beating a Brady led Pats team twice and going 2-0 in the SB is not elite but Burrow is? You’re not keeping the same energy.

No-I was already saying that all of Burrow’s accomplishments along with his actual offensive performance cumulatively led me to believe he has reached elite status. I don’t have enough time to go through every single stat and game of Joe to break down all the reasons that led me to this belief. He has performed consistently at a high end throughout his regular seasons and postseasons, in very big moments and against some of the best defenses. He has done it without a functional offensive line and extremely early in his career.

The fact that I felt he reached elite status after getting so far in the playoffs was a composite of his performances to get that far. I don’t regard Trent Dilfer or Flacco that level simply because their team was able to have a great run-because of their own composite career performances surrounding those runs.