You guys ready to revisit this past trade deadline?

gimmesix

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Just tell him you want fresher and now much better legs...
I just would have tried to improve the running game instead of saying before the trade deadline, "We like our running backs" and that we're not going to try hard to explore trade possibilities to see if we can improve our team.
 

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Is it too early? Premature? Or should we let things play out some more?

So a lot of fans were upset the Cowboys didn't make any moves this trade deadline.....and praised our "rivals" for making moves because it shows they "want" to win. I asked at the time why trade future compensation just for a trade that won't work? These deals rarely work. You fix weaknesses in the offseason not deadline. A lot of people combatted that comment with "Oh but the 9ers traded for McCaffery".....the 9ers built on a strength. Their run game wasn't weak before they got CMac so completely different situations. But anyway, let's see how these moves are looking thus far...



Lions traded for DPJ from Cleveland.......ehhh.


49ers traded for Chase Young...thus far i'd probably say this is a incomplete. Hasn't been bad probably more good but was better with the Commanders.


Vikings traded for Josh Dobbs...I mean this was a great trade. They are starting to tail off some but Dobbs to just come right in and learn that system and string off some wins...gotta give credit where its due.


Seahawks traded for Leonard Williams...yeah I like the guy as a free agent pick up but for a 2nd rounder and a 5th?


Eagles get Kevin Byard...the move that sparked so much criticism on this site...come to find out Titans knew what they were doing and he's a shell of his former self. Just like the rest of that secondary.


Chiefs bring Mecole Hardman back....nope


Falcons traded for Van Jefferson....


Dolphins traded for Claypool....NOTHING.


49ers get Randy Gregory....they didn't give up much. Had a nice sack yesterday. Pretty much regulated to just a pass rushing specialist now.


Cam Akers to Minnesota....




I say this to say that sometimes not making a move is the right move. When LVE got hurt....it forced our guys to step up now we feel a bit better about guys like Bell and Clark and they're playing the best football of their young careers. Didn't trade for a running back and we're getting more out of Pollard and Dowdle. This team knows its personnel. Maybe this organization didn't make a trade because they TRULY "like their guys"?
You really need to make a note and put a* by it we were not going to be in the running for Leonard Williams or chase young or anybody else that was traded within the division it wasn't happening for us so those are not even on our radar they were not gonna happen they were not trading them to us.;...

Now you take into account all the other trades nothing absolute all they were was moving parts trying to fill holes and those holes really didn't get filled seriously we said this before the trade deadline making moves aren't impressive unless those moves work out what you needed to see at least a few weeks or a month from those trades and really they're not impressive outside of sweat going to Chicago he's the best out of all of them actually but we were never gonna get that guy he came from Washington we weren't getting chase we weren't getting Leonard Williams and we weren't getting sweat that is not gonna happen the rest of those dudes were just Jags
it wasn't just about liking our guys it's simply a fact is our guys were better than any of those other guys that were available to us for a reasonable trade value versus what you think you could have got in production when they got to your team it just wasn't gonna happen and right now it'll take a couple weeks and we'll find out this Leonard deal works out for Philly but so far the Philadelphia Eagles all the moves they made this year to make themselves better did not make them better..

we outplayed them in both games in my opinion

the only trade that's absolutely impressed me by Roseman was how he was able to dupe whoever got Carson wentz and all those picks he got that's it everything else Jerry's done jerryd got himself in amari Cooper who's like A.J. Brown Jerry's made small trades for low round draft picks that had good upside and low risk Jerry has done that people around here thinks he has it but there were nobody else that we could have actually traded for they wanted a second for Henry that wasn't gonna happen it would have been stupid that's a bad trade he really wasn't gonna help us anyway because Mike McCarthy at the time wasn't even using Rico fournette's not better than Rico and using hunter and an I formation there literally wasn't gonna be a Patrick surtain anybody who thought that or devante Adams was really not listening those dudes were never really available...

So again this is easy take out the trades that came from within our within our division which we weren't going to get those dudes and all the other ones bunch of Jags they didn't do anything for their teams....
 

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I ... don't ... know. It may simply have meant that no one was willing to pay what Tennessee was asking.

We can't assume no players were available because they weren't traded because there are several reasons why a trade doesn't develop. I would have called the Titans and offered them a third-rounder. If they wanted more, I would have offered them a conditional pick the next year (perhaps up to another third depending on playing time/yardage). I see a need and I want to address it, within reason, of course. For all we know, though, maybe Dallas made the Titans such an offer and they wanted even more. We simply don't know if Henry was available or wasn't; only that he wasn't traded.

Your assumption seems to be if they weren't traded, they weren't available. Every year, there are trades that fall through or players who are kept because no one offered enough. Last year, we tried to trade for Brandin Cooks before the trade deadline, the deal fell through and Cooks remained with the Texans.

My problem isn't that we may have been unable to trade for Henry but rather that Jones indicated that he was satisfied with what we have and wasn't interested in looking. I don't think you improve the team with that outlook. Now, there did seem to be some indication that we may have checked into the price for acquiring the Chicago cornerback.
Yeah which to me means Cooks wasn’t available. If you wanted a first for Cooks that means to me you don’t want to trade him.
 

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Yeah which to me means Cooks wasn’t available. If you wanted a first for Cooks that means to me you don’t want to trade him.
Let me ask you this: If someone is selling a car and they ask $10,000 for the car, but the best offer they get is $8,000, so they don't sell the car, does that mean the car wasn't available?
 

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I just would have tried to improve the running game instead of saying before the trade deadline, "We like our running backs" and that we're not going to try hard to explore trade possibilities to see if we can improve our team.
I suppose the use of Lamb and Turpin haven't expanded that already. And forced opening of the off end area as well?

There are quite a few players that can be added into the mix now that diversity has proven to be effective to be respected on a broad level of approaches.

Now, from this point start adding scheme maneuvers that put the scheme at disadvantages as to what they already do. Then add players with distinct differences in their own strengths and almost not filmed as to those challenges as well.

How many total yards production by the running backs went down last night against Philadelphia?
 

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Let me ask you this: If someone is selling a car and they ask $10,000 for the car, but the best offer they get is $8,000, so they don't sell the car, does that mean the car wasn't available?
Now, two years ago or now?
 

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Let me ask you this: If someone is selling a car and they ask $10,000 for the car, but the best offer they get is $8,000, so they don't sell the car, does that mean the car wasn't available?
If you don’t sell it for 8k? Yeah I can’t say you wanted to sell it.
 

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If you don’t sell it for 8k? Yeah I can’t say you wanted to sell it.
OK. Your view is definitely different than mine, which would be that it is available at a specific price. If someone had paid the $10,000, the owner would have sold it. If someone said I'll take it for that and the owner ups the price to $12,000, then it's unavailable.

I don't know if Henry was available at a specific price. Maybe he wasn't or maybe the price was just higher than anyone wanted to pay. Again, that's not specifically my issue. My issue is Jones essentially saying we weren't looking. We should have been kicking over every stone instead of just saying we like our guys.
 

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The great moves they made happened in the off season when they traded for Gilmore and Cooks. Both of them made the team better and better than the Eagles.
 

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Is it too early? Premature? Or should we let things play out some more?

So a lot of fans were upset the Cowboys didn't make any moves this trade deadline.....and praised our "rivals" for making moves because it shows they "want" to win. I asked at the time why trade future compensation just for a trade that won't work? These deals rarely work. You fix weaknesses in the offseason not deadline. A lot of people combatted that comment with "Oh but the 9ers traded for McCaffery".....the 9ers built on a strength. Their run game wasn't weak before they got CMac so completely different situations. But anyway, let's see how these moves are looking thus far...



Lions traded for DPJ from Cleveland.......ehhh.


49ers traded for Chase Young...thus far i'd probably say this is a incomplete. Hasn't been bad probably more good but was better with the Commanders.


Vikings traded for Josh Dobbs...I mean this was a great trade. They are starting to tail off some but Dobbs to just come right in and learn that system and string off some wins...gotta give credit where its due.


Seahawks traded for Leonard Williams...yeah I like the guy as a free agent pick up but for a 2nd rounder and a 5th?


Eagles get Kevin Byard...the move that sparked so much criticism on this site...come to find out Titans knew what they were doing and he's a shell of his former self. Just like the rest of that secondary.


Chiefs bring Mecole Hardman back....nope


Falcons traded for Van Jefferson....


Dolphins traded for Claypool....NOTHING.


49ers get Randy Gregory....they didn't give up much. Had a nice sack yesterday. Pretty much regulated to just a pass rushing specialist now.


Cam Akers to Minnesota....




I say this to say that sometimes not making a move is the right move. When LVE got hurt....it forced our guys to step up now we feel a bit better about guys like Bell and Clark and they're playing the best football of their young careers. Didn't trade for a running back and we're getting more out of Pollard and Dowdle. This team knows its personnel. Maybe this organization didn't make a trade because they TRULY "like their guys"?
We should’ve inquired into McCaffrey. We’d be the best team in the NFC rather than 2nd best.
 

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They didn't do anything to help beat the big elephant in the room (49ers).
The built one of the best teams in.the league and have a shot at having the best record in the league.
 

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It doesn't look like it.
Having more good players is always better than not having more good players. How they are playing right now is irrelevant. There are always areas to improve.
 

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Is it too early? Premature? Or should we let things play out some more?

So a lot of fans were upset the Cowboys didn't make any moves this trade deadline.....and praised our "rivals" for making moves because it shows they "want" to win. I asked at the time why trade future compensation just for a trade that won't work? These deals rarely work. You fix weaknesses in the offseason not deadline. A lot of people combatted that comment with "Oh but the 9ers traded for McCaffery".....the 9ers built on a strength. Their run game wasn't weak before they got CMac so completely different situations. But anyway, let's see how these moves are looking thus far...



Lions traded for DPJ from Cleveland.......ehhh.


49ers traded for Chase Young...thus far i'd probably say this is a incomplete. Hasn't been bad probably more good but was better with the Commanders.


Vikings traded for Josh Dobbs...I mean this was a great trade. They are starting to tail off some but Dobbs to just come right in and learn that system and string off some wins...gotta give credit where its due.


Seahawks traded for Leonard Williams...yeah I like the guy as a free agent pick up but for a 2nd rounder and a 5th?


Eagles get Kevin Byard...the move that sparked so much criticism on this site...come to find out Titans knew what they were doing and he's a shell of his former self. Just like the rest of that secondary.


Chiefs bring Mecole Hardman back....nope


Falcons traded for Van Jefferson....


Dolphins traded for Claypool....NOTHING.


49ers get Randy Gregory....they didn't give up much. Had a nice sack yesterday. Pretty much regulated to just a pass rushing specialist now.


Cam Akers to Minnesota....




I say this to say that sometimes not making a move is the right move. When LVE got hurt....it forced our guys to step up now we feel a bit better about guys like Bell and Clark and they're playing the best football of their young careers. Didn't trade for a running back and we're getting more out of Pollard and Dowdle. This team knows its personnel. Maybe this organization didn't make a trade because they TRULY "like their guys"?
I still wish the Cowboys traded for DaVant Adams. We don't have enough offensive firepower to beat the Niners.
 

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Having more good players is always better than not having more good players. How they are playing right now is irrelevant. There are always areas to improve.
They have the best record in the league. They are very good.
 

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There still fans on the board that are mad that we didn’t trade a 2nd for King Henry even though he was not available.
 
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