Your perception of the odds that Dak wins a Super Bowl

starfan1

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Tampa Bay Dak 50/50
San Fran Dak 0% chance

That’s considering all other things perform as they should. QBs don’t win SBs teams do
 

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It’s facts. Even Dak himself gave Mark Sanchez more credit for helping him than Romo. These are facts.
Okay so show me your "facts" then. Surely you have PLENTY of documentation. I mean...maybe more than ONE...but a couple sources to set me straight.

"facts"...lets have them.

Romo "lost the team".

Does this include when the team gave up on him when he came back in a drove them right down the field for a surgical TD?
 

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Okay so show me your "facts" then. Surely you have PLENTY of documentation. I mean...maybe more than ONE...but a couple sources to set me straight.

"facts"...lets have them.

Romo "lost the team".

Does this include when the team gave up on him when he came back in a drove them right down the field for a surgical TD?
This isn’t my discussion but McFadden did more on that drive than Romo or as much . He made a good pass to Williams on 3-13 and he benefitted from a PI call to Dez by the goal line but I wouldn’t exactly call it surgical but I’m a hater lol
 

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I'm really getting the sense that the majority of you don't like dak as a qb...I honestly don't remember it being this bad since the early 2000s
 

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Just providing context man ! you make it sound like Romo was this magician on that drive and really he wasn’t. He was ok
LOL...."okay".


Hadn't played a down all season. Allegedly his team "gave up on him"....didn't see you challenge THAT assertion. You only challenged MINE that he drove them RIGHT down the field pronto. Very telling,

I think the gist of this is that I think at that moment Romo was the better QB and you think dak was. Okay..fine....

I do give Dak credit for someone who could FINALLY let romo heal up Rather than coming in playing hurt and get the wraith of alleged fans . The difference was remarkable'

I for one..am glad we kept a JAG rookie QB play over a seasoned vet easily one of the top five of his time.
 

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LOL...."okay".


Hadn't played a down all season. Allegedly his team "gave up on him"....didn't see you challenge THAT assertion. You only challenged MINE that he drove them RIGHT down the field pronto. Very telling,

I think the gist of this is that I think at that moment Romo was the better QB and you think dak was. Okay..fine....

I do give Dak credit for someone who could FINALLY let romo heal up Rather than coming in playing hurt and get the wraith of alleged fans . The difference was remarkable'

I for one..am glad we kept a JAG rookie QB play over a seasoned vet easily one of the top five of his time.
It made me cringe when it showed Prescott pretending to be happy on the sidelines that Romo had led the team to a seamless TD on his first drive coming in cold that season having stunk up the joint himself earlier in the game.

Speaks volumes that rather than actually finding out what an All Pro vet could do with the same team as a 4th round rookie the Cowboys couldn't wait to get him out of the game quick enough to avoid Romo lighting it up. The truth shall set you free!

Put simply, the front office bottled it at the expense of the team and fans.
 

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NFC teams are just as good as the AFC. Y’all really scared of the Bengals and Chargers? Bills? Y’all scared of the Browns now? Wow.
Is any team scared of the Cowboys?

the point is that the NFC was historically weak last season and now that Rodgers is in the AFC their better quarterbacks will have an impact……I thought that the NFC being weak was common knowledge
 

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LOL...."okay".


Hadn't played a down all season. Allegedly his team "gave up on him"....didn't see you challenge THAT assertion. You only challenged MINE that he drove them RIGHT down the field pronto. Very telling,

I think the gist of this is that I think at that moment Romo was the better QB and you think dak was. Okay..fine....

I do give Dak credit for someone who could FINALLY let romo heal up Rather than coming in playing hurt and get the wraith of alleged fans . The difference was remarkable'

I for one..am glad we kept a JAG rookie QB play over a seasoned vet easily one of the top five of his time.
Well hindsight is a wonderful thing. 10 in a row is hard to argue with and I didn’t trust Romo to stay healthy but yes if we could rewind the clock putting Romo in may have been better but he had his chance .

It was virtually the same team he failed with 2 years sooner in fact I think Murray was better. The defense would have failed him again just as it did Dak
 

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10 more years! :lmao:
Have a day off!
His body is already breaking down and he clearly regressed last season. Playing on a strong roster combined with a weak conference will likely buy him more time than he deserves.
How much longer he plays in the league depends how much longer he plays for the Cowboys. If he's offloaded before the start of the 2024 season then he wouldn't join a roster anywhere near as strong as the Cowboys in which case he would be exposed sharpish and out of the league very quickly thereafter unless he hangs around as a back up.
He will play for the Cowboys for a long time and win a bunch of games.
 

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How likely do you believe it is that Dak wins a Super Bowl in his career (as stated in a percentage)

Based on Dak’s rookie year, I would have guessed 60/40 in favor of Dak winning a SB.

Currently, I would put Dak’s odds at winning a SB at about 8 percent. In order for that to happen the team has to carry Dak and his heavy contract to a SB win, or Dak has to catch lightning in a bottle for 4 games (like Eli Manning).

Speak your mind, but let’s keep it civil and courteous. Thanks in advance.
LOL, let's just say Dak and I will have the same number of SB appearances in our career.
 

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Okay so show me your "facts" then. Surely you have PLENTY of documentation. I mean...maybe more than ONE...but a couple sources to set me straight.

"facts"...lets have them.

Romo "lost the team".

Does this include when the team gave up on him when he came back in a drove them right down the field for a surgical TD?
Surgical? It was a meaningless game lol. That’s like gloating about scoring in preseason lol.
 

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I always thought Tony Romo’s chance of winning a SB were pretty good, especially as the #1 seed with a bye. Even after his early days of untimely turnovers and his trip to Cabo, I still hoped. But the QB cannot win a SB. It requires a complete team playing complimentary football, very good coaching, game plans, and play-calling, and a little luck to be healthy at the right time, not to mention a lack of distractions off the field (Jerry).

Romo had the best offense from OL to RB to receivers since the 90’s, teams full of pro bowlers and more than a few HOF worthy playmakers. Sometimes his defense sucked, and sometimes it was good enough to compliment the offense and maybe get to a SB, but the coaching, injuries, and sometimes one turnover, blown coverage, or dropped pass undermined the opportunity.

Dak and Zeke followed the same pattern early on….very good offense, but garbage defenses that couldn’t hold a lead after kicking off with 15 seconds left. Suddenly Quinn starts showing us a competitive defense that can win, but a defense that can’t stop the run game, an injury riddled OL, an aging used up RB still getting the bulk of the carries, and two seasons thrown away by Jerry not providing the necessary weapons, along with less than stellar QB play and an OC calling the dumbest plays the NFL ever saw at crunch time derailed those attempts. Not to mention a Kicker falling apart and screwing up the game plan decisions.

For historical reference, Romo also struggled in the playoffs against the best teams because he also never had it all come together, and good teams beat inferior teams and organizations in the playoffs.

Can Dak win a SB? Yes, of course he can. But the OL needs to perform and stay healthy (see Burrow and Mahommes); the offensive weapons need to include more than 1 legit WR (see Dak and Lamar); the run game must pull its weight against good defenses; the defense cannot allow a team to gash it running (Rams and 49ers); the defense has to be strong enough to get stops against even the best offenses.

What May hold us back this year?
  • DT‘s that can’t keep the LB clean and can’t push the pocket back and move the QB off his spot
  • 1 key injury to Lamb or Cooks or a starting CB
  • a step backwards by the OL, including injury, depth, performance
  • an injury to LVE….he’s no star, but we have no one else who can play the middle vs run
  • An inadequate volume RB to keep Pollard’s touches at 15-20 max….Zeke went downhill fast, but if his replacement can’t handle the load without turnovers and penalties, we will actually miss him big time.
Hopefully, the above issues will be addressed in the draft, free agency, and trades because it seems any position or depth not addressed by Jerry rises up and bites us in the butt each year. Luck and Karma are real for the Cowboys.
 
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The components which make up a Super Bowl contender should be fairly obvious from year to year.

The defense for this team outs Dak much closer than Romo ever was possible. But the make-up of the offense is where this team either succeeds or fails.

Dak has to protect the ball better. But that is not a stand alone which falls on his shoulders solely. The elements of the offense work in tandem and require all to function for all to be as effective as they can.

The offensive line is the foundation for both passing and running the ball. When Dallas has a gifted offensive line, things are easier for them. Dak requires more time than Mahomes to succeed. That doesn't make Dak bad, it makes reality significant in the decisions the front office makes to position the offense for maximum success.

Look at the results when Dak has played with a cleaner pocket. He puts up some gaudy yards. And this is the crux about the Dak argument with me. Hurts stands in one of the cleanest pockets i can remember. Surely his ability to run the ball factors in, but the guy could play in a waste treatment pool and his uniform not get dirty.

Give Dak something close to this type of protection and the reality of an NFC Championship game is closer than most here suspect.

This is why I believe Guard is a premiere position to be selected because of the offensive lines under performance last season.

Fix the offensive line to gash the defense in rushing yards and passing yards and I believe Dak can get there.

It would be difficult to come up with a percentage, but i think if these things were to happen for this team, it might be close to 50/50.
I’m here. Great post. I’ve been 50/50 over the years with Dak and with every year I get a little more skeptical BUT I think if he can get what you laid out and this becomes closer to how we looked 2014, he can get there. They need to not put it on him. Run the ball. Have a tough line. Use your WRs in proper route trees with the TE. Have the D stay tough. If the draft adds to what we did in FA and McCarthy has a good year I see this as the best percentage year to get it done. If not I see a nose dive based on trust with coaching wtc
 

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Is any team scared of the Cowboys?

the point is that the NFC was historically weak last season and now that Rodgers is in the AFC their better quarterbacks will have an impact……I thought that the NFC being weak was common knowledge
Brady and Rodgers sucked last season and their teams did too. What AFC teams are feared? I get Chiefs because if Mahomes but who’s scared of the Bill or Browns? This is wild to me.

No team should be scared of Dallas either. The league is wide open. There’s no Patriots out there.
 
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