Zeke Elliott appreciation thread

[CalPolyTechnique]

https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-rb.php?year=2022


Interesting that you would cite lack of sample size while ignoring the simple fact that Pollard's total gaudy yards per carry numbers are skewed tremendously by HIS small sample size. He has gained more than a third of his yards this season on 2 carries for 101 yards.. On his other 53 carries he has totaled 191 yards.. A hefty 3.6 ypc. If Zeke was averaging 3.6 ypc yall would be excoriating him even worse than you do.. And again, fantasy nerds continue to overvalue "explosive plays." Yes they're great and they're fun to watch.. but they have to be the cherry on top of a good sundae .. not the whole damn sundae.. Until Pollard's long runs are accompanied by more consistent chain moving runs (and better pass blocking) he's going to remain a second fiddle type back. There is nothing wrong with that.. until you try turning him into something he isn't.

I reiterate.. name the most explosive runners in NFL history.. Simpson, Dickerson, Sayers, Sanders, Peterson et al.. one thing they all have in common is that they spent the bulk of their careers watching other, less explosive runners perform in the playoffs.

Pollard’s averaged 5.1 YPC for his career on 372 carries.

You’re trying to utilize an average based on sample sizes of 6 and 7 carries.

You think I’m being snarky, but the reality is you don’t understand basic statistical concepts.

And are we playing the arbitrary takeaway game now? Take away Zeke’s two longest runs on the season and he’s averaging 3.75 YPC.

You know what the difference between Zeke and Pollard is in that regard? Zeke will get you 3 yards just like Pollard, but he will NEVER break a long one.

Zeke has just five (5) 40+ yard runs in 1,744 career carries. That almost a statistical anomaly for a NFL running back.

Apples to freaking oranges, smh.

 

[diamonddelts]

Yet the couldn't run him down on the philly TD.

You guys either don;t watch the games or straight up lie.

A short gallop into the endzone does denote speed. There is a reason why they do not run a 10 or 14 yd sprint at the combine. Your take is just as bad as your grammar.

 

[diamonddelts]

IMO no running back is worth being a top of the draft pick.

Sorry you feel that way.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Oh gosh the totals are an even worse look than I thought when you factor in number of carries / touches.

J/C did you use a site for this or just manually pull the info?

I also just looked another site and there were 26 RBs last year with more explosive runs (15+) than Zeke. 26…26!!!

I pulled the numbers myself and threw it in a table, but you can use any source for the game log info.

Pat Mahomes has more 20+ yard runs than Zeke.

Zeke has just five (5) 40+ yard runs in 1,744 career carries. That literally means he’s broken a long one on just 002% of his career runs.

Jonathan Taylor had five of those runs (40+ yards) in 2021 alone on just 332 carries.

 

[diamonddelts]

Pat Mahomes has more 20+ yard runs than Zeke.

Zzzzzzing!

 

[cnuball21]

I pulled it myself, but you can use any source for the game log info.

Pat Mahomes has more 20+ yard runs than Zeke.

Zeke has just five (5) 40+ yard runs in 1,744 career carries.

Jonathan Taylor had five of those runs (40+ yards) in 2021 alone on just 332 carries.

Whew…

 

[diamonddelts]

Whew…

Hot fire

 

[RonnieT24]

A short gallop into the endzone does denote speed. There is a reason why they do not run a 10 or 14 yd sprint at the combine. Your take is just as bad as your grammar.

Actually it's your take that is bad here because while they don't run a separate short sprint at the combine they absolutely record the 10 yard split for every player. They also time them doing the change of direction and then acceleration as Zeke demonstrated on that play. In fact they have two drills that measure that change of direction and acceleration with the 3 cone and the 20 yard shuttle.

And I don't know if you noticed.. but that 14 yard TD went a lot more than 14 yards.. He ran 7 yards from the backfield to about the 7 yard line where he made the cut and then 15-20 yards from that point to the corner. I should also point out that if that play had occurred at midfield it would have been a 50 yard TD because there wasn't a defender in position to catch him .. It was a well blocked play which was in turn well read by Zeke ...

 

[RonnieT24]

I pulled the numbers myself and threw it in a table, but you can use any source for the game log info.

Pat Mahomes has more 20+ yard runs than Zeke.

Zeke has just five (5) 40+ yard runs in 1,744 career carries. That literally means he’s broken a long one on just 002% of his career runs.

Jonathan Taylor had five of those runs (40+ yards) in 2021 alone on just 332 carries.

And enjoyed the playoffs from his couch just like you and me..

 

[cnuball21]

And enjoyed the playoffs from his couch just like you and me..

Cmon Ronnie…we’re not evaluating RBs on playoff success are we?

 

[Acceptablename]

Dude was fantastic today. Always plays his heart out and literally brought us back in this game. He is so underrated by this fanbase it’s ridiculous

I’m ready fora new RB

 

[vlad]

If one could find a girl as ride or die as some Zeke fans I’d be so happy for them

 

[cnuball21]

I’m ready fora new RB

I think we’re close…if the Jones have anything left in their brains we continue to build the line and get fresh legs in the draft.

Love Zeke and what he’s done for the franchise but time to move on.

Pollard is an awesome complimentary back - but can’t pay him like a bell cow. Let someone else make that mistake.

 

[mattjames2010]

And enjoyed the playoffs from his couch just like you and me..

LOL weak

 

[vlad]

I pulled the numbers myself and threw it in a table, but you can use any source for the game log info.

Pat Mahomes has more 20+ yard runs than Zeke.

Zeke has just five (5) 40+ yard runs in 1,744 career carries. That literally means he’s broken a long one on just 002% of his career runs.

Jonathan Taylor had five of those runs (40+ yards) in 2021 alone on just 332 carries.

Those are some stats. I’m actually curious what his 10 and 20 yard runs are too


You’ll find this interesting if not obvious

 

[Coogiguy03]

Yeah he had his first big game in a year.

He's making too much for me to praise him like this.

Agreed

 

[RonnieT24]

Cmon Ronnie…we’re not evaluating RBs on playoff success are we?

Technically getting to the playoffs is predicated on regular season success. But I keep reading how important long runs are every day yet the guys showing up in the playoffs overwhelmingly are not really known for them. It's just weird that Emmitt, a guy never known for breakaway speed, played in one less playoff games than Sanders, Sayers, Dickerson and Peterson combined. Weird.. isn't it? Seems like steady production and moving the chains is more conducive to winning football than these highlight reel runs. But you can't convince fantasy nerds of that. I mean Saquon Barkley is bound to help his team get to the playoffs at SOME point doesn't he? All those amazing highlights have to count for something don't they?

 

[Texasfootball21]

I appreciate Zeke! If you need a yard he's gonna get it. If you need a block he's gonna make it. If you need a catch he's gonna grab it.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Those are some stats. I’m actually curious what his 10 and 20 yard runs are too


You’ll find this interesting if not obvious

https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/advanced-stats-rb.php?year=2022

RonaldT24 provided this link (above) and ironically, it’s been an absolute gem in supporting the notion that Zeke is barely a middling-level NFL running back.

BTW, Zeke has six (6) runs of 10+ yards this season on 94 carries. By comparison, Pollard has seven (7) on just 54 carries so far this season.

 

[Cowboys1966]

Sorry you feel that way.

A lot of teams feel that way. Maybe even most teams.