Zeke exposes woman's breasts **merged**

[haleyrules]

Zeke needs to be smarter than this. We live in a world where everyone carries a cell phone. Celebrities should act in public (and in private for that matter) under the assumption that every move they make is being recorded. It's one of the severe disadvantages of being rich and famous.

Zeke should act with caution when it comes to women. I'm not saying it specifically about this woman, but there are a lot out there that would like to take advantage of a situation if it benefits them. Zeke shouldn't be naive about this. Ask Michael Irvin and Erik Willams how the false rape charges they received hurt them as well as the team.

Yep. Persception is reality. Elliott is on a collision course with reality. The FO needs to get this boy some better advise. The incident is nothing...but appearances are everything in the modern world. Too bad. He is/was just a young boy having some harmless fun!

 

[plymkr]

Do you help even if they may disagree with you on something, or is it all convenience/judgment based?
Zeke deserves to be treated like what he is, 21yrs old and making a mistake when it come to the perception of celebrity. That's all.


LOL, so now your excusing Gronk for the motorboat based on her reaction to it, even though it wasn't something she expected?
Well heck, how is Zeke different, the initial vid showed the swat, but subsequent vids show her acting on her own accord to the pleasure of the crowd, and she left with Zeke....she has a right to play the game of seduction, she has the right to play hard to get or coy(do you know her intent or state of mind?)...im just saying, read a romance novel if you don't get my gist. Women aren't as docile and flat as you think, there is a complex dance going on there. Been happening since the times of loin leafs

If Gronk didn't get suspended then neither should Zeke. Both actions by both men are assault and should be punished. I'd be very disappointed by the league if they punish Zeke but not Gronk because both actions were "detrimental to the league". I'm a little disappointed that no Women's groups jumped in against Gronk.

One thing I hope comes out of this is the Women's Group uses this to promote the message of what consent is and what it is not. If someone attends a party, or dresses a certain way, or flirts, or drinks alcohol does not mean that they give everyone or anyone in the room consent to touch them. So lets use Gronk as an example, we'll give Zeke a break. Let's say at his motorboat party a girl comes up behind Gronk and sticks her fingers in his butt. Now let's assume that Gronk doesn't get down like that. So just because he is hosting a party were there is a lot of sexual activity does not mean that he has given permission to anyone at that party to anally penetrate him.

So back to the idea of consent. Attending a party or anything like that does not mean a person is giving implied consent that anything that happens to them is okay because they attended a party or dressed a certain way. If Gronk advertises a sex party on a boat and woman attend, that does not mean that they are giving an overall consent to anybody at that party to touch them sexually. There's no such thing as implied consent when it comes to sexual activity. Especially sexual activity that is in public.

Let's look at at this way. Let's pretend that Zeke and that woman are dating or have a relationship. Let's also pretend that Zeke likes some freaky stuff in his sexual life. So while he's pulling her shirt down and she knows he likes a couple fingers in the butt so she turns around and anally penetrates him in front of the whole parade and cameras catch it. Would that be a sex crime. Yes, without a doubt. Same rules apply to the woman as they do to Zeke. Unless Zeke says hey sweetheart please stick your finger in my butt then it's a crime. Unless she said hey Zeke please pull my shirt down so my breast can be exposed then consent is not assumed. Now if Zeke wants to stick his fingers in his own butt and is doing it repeatedly at the parade then that does mean that he gives his girlfriend permission to do it. Just like if the girl is exposing her own breasts in front of the crowd that does not give Zeke consent to expose her. You can do anything you want with your own body but you have to have permission to touch someone else. Keep sexual activity in the bedroom and out of the public eye is the best way to go.

But going back to your post that I replied to. If Gronk didn't get suspended then Zeke shouldn't, if Zeke gets suspended by the league then that is total hypocrisy by the league. But I would strongly argue, not stronly argue with you but with people in general, that Gronk and Zeke did the same thing and both are wrong. The problem is, Goodell is not opposed to being hypocritical. that's what sucks for us

 

[Cowboys22]

Yep. Persception is reality. Elliott is on a collision course with reality. The FO needs to get this boy some better advise. The incident is nothing...but appearances are everything in the modern world. Too bad. He is/was just a young boy having some harmless fun!

You say it was harmless fun. Are their details that support that? Many of us Could call it harmless fun to go around pulling women's shirts down and exposing them but that would be sexual assault. Has anything come out that says he had permission or that this girl had been flashing the crowd all day?

 

[plymkr]

Well clearly something needs to be done for his iwn goid snd the good of the team. I honestly don't think a fine will get the message through to his thick skull. I thought a one game suspension was a slap on the wrist.

I agree a 1 or 2 game suspension levied by Jerry and the Cowboys would be a good wake up call and hopefully he'll learn from it and start growing up.

 

[aria]

If Gronk didn't get suspended then neither should Zeke. Both actions by both men are assault and should be punished. I'd be very disappointed by the league if they punish Zeke but not Gronk because both actions were "detrimental to the league". I'm a little disappointed that no Women's groups jumped in against Gronk.

One thing I hope comes out of this is the Women's Group uses this to promote the message of what consent is and what it is not. If someone attends a party, or dresses a certain way, or flirts, or drinks alcohol does not mean that they give everyone or anyone in the room consent to touch them. So lets use Gronk as an example, we'll give Zeke a break. Let's say at his motorboat party a girl comes up behind Gronk and sticks her fingers in his butt. Now let's assume that Gronk doesn't get down like that. So just because he is hosting a party were there is a lot of sexual activity does not mean that he has given permission to anyone at that party to anally penetrate him.

So back to the idea of consent. Attending a party or anything like that does not mean a person is giving implied consent that anything that happens to them is okay because they attended a party or dressed a certain way. If Gronk advertises a sex party on a boat and woman attend, that does not mean that they are giving an overall consent to anybody at that party to touch them sexually. There's no such thing as implied consent when it comes to sexual activity. Especially sexual activity that is in public.

Let's look at at this way. Let's pretend that Zeke and that woman are dating or have a relationship. Let's also pretend that Zeke likes some freaky stuff in his sexual life. So while he's pulling her shirt down and she knows he likes a couple fingers in the butt so she turns around and anally penetrates him in front of the whole parade and cameras catch it. Would that be a sex crime. Yes, without a doubt. Same rules apply to the woman as they do to Zeke. Unless Zeke says hey sweetheart please stick your finger in my butt then it's a crime. Unless she said hey Zeke please pull my shirt down so my breast can be exposed then consent is not assumed. Now if Zeke wants to stick his fingers in his own butt and is doing it repeatedly at the parade then that does mean that he gives his girlfriend permission to do it. Just like if the girl is exposing her own breasts in front of the crowd that does not give Zeke consent to expose her. You can do anything you want with your own body but you have to have permission to touch someone else. Keep sexual activity in the bedroom and out of the public eye is the best way to go.

But going back to your post that I replied to. If Gronk didn't get suspended then Zeke shouldn't, if Zeke gets suspended by the league then that is total hypocrisy by the league. But I would strongly argue, not stronly argue with you but with people in general, that Gronk and Zeke did the same thing and both are wrong. The problem is, Goodell is not opposed to being hypocritical. that's what sucks for us

I have one problem with what you said. I strongly disagree that Gronk wouldnt enjoy the, uh, penetration example you gave. I'm a betting man and I would bet he would love it, "not that theres anything wrong with that".

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I don't care if it looks Ike incoherent babbling. This doesn't make or take any money off my table so its whatever at the end of the day. I dodged nothing but if I did so what? What you going to do about it? Say some slick stuff, insult me, quote me again? Again who cares its a messageboard. I don't know who you think you are in messageboard land but I don't have to answer your questions esp made up ones by you. If that makes your feel you've won some online discussion have it. I'm not disparaging nothing but if that's what you think okay and now what? I just look at people like you as those looking for online friends and or ways to be someone you're not offline. So read the babble you think I wrote and send your next garbage trying to claim some type of online victory champ. Rambling done

That you don't care is obvious. You aren't even arguing merit and instead fixate on me. How droll.

 

[plymkr]

so here is a question.
if you expose your wife's breast in public, is that a crime?
how about a girl friend?
or how about someone you just had s*x with?
if you use the most strict application of letter of the law, I suspect it is yes to all of them.

however, there are also many laws that could apply.
such as some type of public drunken behavior thing.

none of us know.
if would be had to believe that Zeke knowing broke the law in front of cameras for the world to see.
it was idiotic but he does not have a death wish.

Yeah you're right all of those would be a crime unless your wife, GF, or someone you just had sex with says it's okay for you to expose them, and if they are not drunk or have any chemicals in them to impair the decision making.

 

[LatinMind]

I agree a 1 or 2 game suspension levied by Jerry and the Cowboys would be a good wake up call and hopefully he'll learn from it and start growing up.

for what? idk whos worse the media or you people. The media isnt even talking bout it anymore. Non issue

 

[plymkr]

I have one problem with what you said. I strongly disagree that Gronk wouldnt enjoy the, uh, penetration example you gave. I'm a betting man and I would bet he would love it, "not that theres anything wrong with that".

Lol, I can see him rolling with it. Again not that there's anything wrong with that. That's hilarious. too funny

 

[plymkr]

for what? idk whos worse the media or you people. The media isnt even talking bout it anymore. Non issue

If I have to choose I'd go with the media is worse than me, just my opinion.

 

[speedkilz88]

You say it was harmless fun. Are their details that support that? Many of us Could call it harmless fun to go around pulling women's shirts down and exposing them but that would be sexual assault. Has anything come out that says he had permission or that this girl had been flashing the crowd all day?

Shan Shariff‏ @1053SS 33m33 minutes ago
Zeke update (Part 1): Source indicates @EzekielElliott is vacationing in Miami right now with same girl from St Patrick's video. @TMZ_Sports

Shan Shariff‏ @1053SS 32m32 minutes ago
(Part 2) This can only help perception that she doesn't have a problem with @EzekielElliott or view herself as a victim from the incident.

 

[waldoputty]

Yeah you're right all of those would be a crime unless your wife, GF, or someone you just had sex with says it's okay for you to expose them, and if they are not drunk or have any chemicals in them to impair the decision making.

so instead of exposing, what about any kind of contact? when does any type of physical contact become against the law for wife, girlfriend or anyone you just had s*x with?
i suspect based on the strict letter of the law, those would be illegal also?

 

[waldoputty]

Shan Shariff‏ @1053SS 33m33 minutes ago
Zeke update (Part 1): Source indicates @EzekielElliott is vacationing in Miami right now with same girl from St Patrick's video. @TMZ_Sports

Shan Shariff‏ @1053SS 32m32 minutes ago
(Part 2) This can only help perception that she doesn't have a problem with @EzekielElliott or view herself as a victim from the incident.

it sure does.
even if he even does not like her, it would be prudent

it would be really funny if she is very unattractive, and zeke has to submit to punishment to protect himself...

 

[superjoe]

I have one problem with what you said. I strongly disagree that Gronk wouldnt enjoy the, uh, penetration example you gave. I'm a betting man and I would bet he would love it, "not that theres anything wrong with that".

LOL

 

[haleyrules]

You say it was harmless fun. Are their details that support that? Many of us Could call it harmless fun to go around pulling women's shirts down and exposing them but that would be sexual assault. Has anything come out that says he had permission or that this girl had been flashing the crowd all day?

I wouldn't get my panties in a knot over it.! !

 

[Trouty]

Shan Shariff‏ @1053SS 33m33 minutes ago
Zeke update (Part 1): Source indicates @EzekielElliott is vacationing in Miami right now with same girl from St Patrick's video. @TMZ_Sports

Shan Shariff‏ @1053SS 32m32 minutes ago
(Part 2) This can only help perception that she doesn't have a problem with @EzekielElliott or view herself as a victim from the incident.

Finally some actual, you know, updates.

Instead of all this handwringing on both sides of the argument. Migosh, this has been an absolute insufferable thread.

 

[superjoe]

You say it was harmless fun. Are their details that support that? Many of us Could call it harmless fun to go around pulling women's shirts down and exposing them but that would be sexual assault. Has anything come out that says he had permission or that this girl had been flashing the crowd all day?

You need to read the rest of the posts.
When asked, she said she didn't have a problem with what Zeke did.
It was confirmed they spent the rest of the evening together, in a click...who knows later that night.
How much more can a woman say, hey it's a non issue stop cramping my style?

 

[superjoe]

Finally some actual, you know, updates.

There you have it folks, she is a boob flash genius, play on playa.
Odds on suspension now?

 

[aria]

There you have it folks, she is a boob flash genius, play on playa.
Odds on suspension now?

Beating a dead horse here but that only satisfies the people who don't care what he did as long as she didn't care. She may not have a problem with it now but she wouldn't have pulled her shirt up so quick if she didn't have a problem with it then.

Regardless, the guy clearly has poor judgement that could possibly land him in hot water if he doesn't settle down. He's also not a player I would want representing my team with those sort of actions (but we all know Jerrah's moral compass points directly south).

No matter what people say or think, kids do look up to athletes and they should behave accordingly. You want to make millions of dollars and put yourself in the spotlight by going to parties and acting afool then be ready to deal with the consequences.

 

[superjoe]

Beating a dead horse here but that only satisfies the people who don't care what he did as long as she didn't care. She may not have a problem with it now but she wouldn't have pulled her shirt up so quick if she didn't have a problem with it then.

Regardless, the guy clearly has poor judgement that could possibly land him in hot water if he doesn't settle down. He's also not a player I would want representing my team with those sort of actions (but we all know Jerrah's moral compass points directly south).

No matter what people say or think, kids do look up to athletes and they should behave accordingly. You want to make millions of dollars and put yourself in the spotlight by going to parties and acting afool then be ready to deal with the consequences.

I could care less about the high horsing...just asked for odds on suspension based on actual facts now disclosed.

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