Zeke is the ultimate progress stopper

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What keeps Moore from being creative when Zeke is there? What plays couldn't be run with Zeke?
The same exact gameplan easily could have been called with Zeke.

Essentially, you're really saying Davis was the real difference as Pollard got about the same number of touches.

Davis? I said nothing about him.

I'm saying Moore has better creativity than running Zeke up the middle 15 times a game for short yardage (which we do with Zeke).

We have Dak and a passing game that is much more effective than short yardage Zeke.
 

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When was the last time Zeke broke a big gain running outside? I can't even remember Zeke breaking tackles. All he does is plow forward for a few yards here and there.

I wish he still had his break away speed and breaking tackles. He is no longer that player.

He scored a Touchdown against Philadelphia, looked fast enough to me. Look man , He doesn't have to be the player he once was. Nobody is, but he's fast enough for what we need. Besides

Tony has more than enough explosiveness. They are a 1,2 punch after all. Who gives a rat putootie who #1 or who's #2 ? I damn sure don't
 

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Davis? I said nothing about him.

I'm saying Moore has better creativity than running Zeke up the middle 15 times a game for short yardage (which we do with Zeke).

We have Dak and a passing game that is much more effective than short yardage Zeke.
That's simply false. Zeke has been havimg success outside.

Davis was the different RB that played today, not Pollard.

Again, there is not a single play today that couldn't have been called with Zeke. You're making excuses for Moore that are undeserved and not logical.
 

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We missed Elliot today, make no mistake about it. We were scoring too fast. We would’ve Pounded the ball a little bit more today than we did . Tony Pollard is a phenomenal player I’m glad we have him. Zeke is every bit as valuable

Looooooooooooooool, smh. I've heard it all now. We were scoring too fast apparently.
 

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The hatred on here for zeke makes no sense. He's playing as well as he has since his rookie year and doing what the coaches ask him to do.

If you guys are mad, be mad at the gm and coaches
Dude, I love zeke too. But there is absolutely no way Zeke is playing the way he did as his earlier seasons. Early Zeke looked like Pollard today. Explosive, cutting on a dime, avoiding tackles. The only thing Zeke does that Pollard doesn't is pushing the pile and pass pro.
 

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Look at the time of possession. The beers had the ball almost 14 minutes longer than us. That’s why they kept running down our throat. Yes you can score too fast

You're on the money, actually.

The effectiveness of the offense put a lot of pressure on the defense, because our offense was scoring left and right, and not taking much time.

Like you said, the Bears had the ball for 14 more minutes of TOP. That's a lot of time. Those long drives that chew up the clock are really devastating.

It really depends on the team. I think the Cowboys felt like they could have more success with Pollard this game, and Zeke was hurt so they just played it safe and rolled with Pollard. It worked out.
 

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We missed Elliot today, make no mistake about it. We were scoring too fast. We would’ve Pounded the ball a little bit more today than we did . Tony Pollard is a phenomenal player I’m glad we have him. Zeke is every bit as valuable
I thought Malik Davis filled in nicely for Zeke. They just didn't run him as much as they would Zeke.
 

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What keeps Moore from being creative when Zeke is there? What plays couldn't be run with Zeke?
The same exact gameplan easily could have been called with Zeke.

Essentially, you're really saying Davis was the real difference as Pollard got about the same number of touches.

Sure, you can try to run the same game plan with Zeke. You aren’t going to get the production you with Pollard though.
 

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Exactly what about the offense today was opened up in a way it couldn't be with Zeke?

Pollard got pretty close to his usual load today, so it's not that. There wasn't a lot of use of the rbs in the passing game, so not that.

The difference today appeared to be the use of different routes from the norm, the use of motion/misdirection, and general execution.
That’s not true.

Pollard got 14 carries today which is 4-5 more carries than he usually gets per game. That doesn’t sound like much but when you’re only averaging 9.5 rushes per game an additional 5 carries is significant.
 

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Hey, hey, ho, ho, Jerry Jones has got to go...
We want Pollard!!
 

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Exactly what about the offense today was opened up in a way it couldn't be with Zeke?

Pollard got pretty close to his usual load today, so it's not that. There wasn't a lot of use of the rbs in the passing game, so not that.

The difference today appeared to be the use of different routes from the norm, the use of motion/misdirection, and general execution.

Pollard had a roughly 45% increase in carries. The difference to me appeared to be Pollard’s ability to make guys miss on the second level.
 

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Has been a problem for years. This team can't move forward until we move past the 2016 draft.
 

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We missed Elliot today, make no mistake about it. We were scoring too fast. We would’ve Pounded the ball a little bit more today than we did . Tony Pollard is a phenomenal player I’m glad we have him. Zeke is every bit as valuable

Scoring too fast... OK.

Man we scored TD after TD after TD. Its not like we scored and then fell apart on offense and the defense had to be on the field forever.

Zeke is done. He needs to sit on the bench. And all those who said Pollard is not build to carry the load for a whole game should think about their argumentation one more time after this game.

A lot of us said that Pollard is the way better back. He had to wait for a very long time to get a chance to prove it. Never heard anything of him that could have distracted the team. He waited. And yesterday given a chance the guy exploded.

Pollard is a gem. He is something special. And he showed this for years now.

Only because of this dumb and stubborn GM Zeke has still to play.
He faltered when Zeke drank caipirinha in cabo and now his ego needs to save his face.

Seen so many times. The only thing that suffers is the team. But with JJ their seems to be an "I" in "Team".
 
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Need both. Zeke's blocking is second to none. Zeke also would allow Tony to get a breather.

Use them while you have them.
 

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everything has to be Vs and one side or the other here

we cant just celebrate 6-2 going into the bye
That's why I don't come on here very much, and I stay far away after a loss. r/Cowboys on Reddit is the place to go if you want rational conversation about this team. On this forum the only people that start threads, are those who want complain about something. Win or lose, all you see is complaining, and/or player bashing. It's exhausting.
 

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That's why I don't come on here very much, and I stay far away after a loss. r/Cowboys on Reddit is the place to go if you want rational conversation about this team. On this forum the only people that start threads, are those who want complain about something. Win or lose, all you see is complaining, and/or player bashing. It's exhausting.

So you came on here to complain about the forum?

Nice.
 
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