Zeke is third overall in rushing

[windjc]

I'm dealing with someone who doesn't understand that raw stats don't accurately measure a man-to-man corners production. I'm dealing with someone who didn't realize Byron Jones isn't a full-time FS. I'm dealing with someone who claims to have watched all of the Jags games, yet suggesting Ramsey got worked over by Steve Smith. I hoped for a bit more. Again, moving on.

You're dealing with someone who knows that Zeke was better for this team. You can wave stats around all you want, but so can I. Might as well read scripture to each other.

 

[Craig]

The argument was about Zekes value. I'm dug in. Come join me. Dont keep standing. You'll get shot by the enemy. Reality.

You cant move goalposts in reality. Well...maybe in your reality. Im gonna be done arguing with you since its impossible to have a discussion with someone who doesnt even know what theyre arguing.

 

[windjc]

Those last two statements are contradictory.

Hmmm. Lets see. Jones 1st round pick. Claiborne. 1st round pick. Wilcox 3rd round pick. Gregory 2nd round pick. Carr free agent pick up. Lawrence 2nd round pick. Should I add Collins and Thornton? Do you even fact?

 

[ConceptCoop]

You're dealing with someone who knows that Zeke was better for this team. You can wave stats around all you want, but so can I. Might as well read scripture to each other.

Whatever you say.

 

[windjc]

You cant move goalposts in reality. Well...maybe in your reality. Im gonna be done arguing with you since its impossible to have a discussion with someone who doesnt even know what theyre arguing.

Lol. This is a Zeke thread. Yeah, you better pull out son.

 

[ConceptCoop]

Hmmm. Lets see. Jones 1st round pick. Claiborne. 1st round pick. Wilcox 3rd round pick. Gregory 2nd round pick. Carr free agent pick up. Lawrence 2nd round pick. Should I add Collins and Thornton? Do you even fact?

We've invested more first round picks on the offensive line alone than the entire defense over the last 7 seasons. Add Dez and Elliott and that makes 5 to 2 in favor of the offense. Just look at the cap situation. 100+ on the offense and 40+ on the defense.

Are you trolling?

 

[windjc]

We've invested more first round picks on the offensive line alone than the entire defense over the last 7 seasons. Add Dez and Elliott and that makes 5 to 2 in favor of the offense. Just look at the cap situation. 100+ on the offense and 40+ on the defense.

Are you trolling?

Thats why we have a better offense than defense. But we draft BOTH. Which Mr. Ignorant was implying we did not.

Still, we are controlling the clock with Zeke and keeping our defense off the field. That is helping our defense more than Ramsey would have. Im all for drafting ALL defense next year.

Our defense has allowed 23,19,and 17 points. How is Ramsey's defense doing points wise?

 

[mattjames2010]

Ramsey has a 14 tackles and no PDs or INTs

He had one yesterday that resulted in an INT.



2:23

 

[mattjames2010]

Yet he is on pace for 1440 yards and 11 TDs.........all without his starting QB and last night without his LT and LG

LOL the "on pace" argument. Because those are always oh so reliable and a good way to completely cut out all context. Keep it up! At least you're over spamming the board about Murray.

 

[windjc]

He had one yesterday that resulted in an INT.



2:23

You guys are really trying. But the point remains, if we go with Morris and draft Ramsey our defense allows more points than 17,19, and 23. Zeke is making a difference that Ramsey would not have made. On offense and on defense.

If Ramsey could make SUCH a difference for us, he would be doing so in Jacksonville that has MORE talent than we do on defense.

We picked up Ryan Davis, REMEMBER??!!

 

[Redball Express]

Yes I did.. This isn't just my own opinion either as others have said it so did you watch the game?

Speed backs are like that.

They don't like you touching their wheels.

It was the same with Dorsett, Preston Peason and several others.

It's a legal trip thing.

Picking up his feet going thru the hole would help. So would getting lower going thru the hole.

He looks to me to stand upright a lot when he runs.

Get lower and move those feet.

 

[ConceptCoop]

You guys are really trying. But the point remains, if we go with Morris and draft Ramsey our defense allows more points than 17,19, and 23. Zeke is making a difference that Ramsey would not have made. On offense and on defense.

If Ramsey could make SUCH a difference for us, he would be doing so in Jacksonville that has MORE talent than we do on defense.

We picked up Ryan Davis, REMEMBER??!!

That logic is laughable. I wanted, for your sake, to think that you're trolling. But I usually find trolls somewhat funny.

 

[Stash]

But he has already improved leap sand bounds from his first game....... he is using patience and letting the holes develop...... soon he will be busting the huge runs, not just 10 -15 yarders on the reg

I agree. He gets better each week.

 

[windjc]

That logic is laughable. I wanted, for your sake, to think you're a troll. But I usually find trolls somewhat funny.

That logic got us to 12-4 two years ago. Where has your logic (drafting a CB/S in 1st round) gotten us?

 

[ConceptCoop]

That logic got us to 12-4 two years ago. Where has your logic (drafting a CB/S in 1st round) gotten us?

 

[Fletch]

Still not worth the 4th pick IMO.

He's a fine player but I think there was more value in that pick than taking a RB when we had numerous holes on defense. Even a trade would have been a better move IMO.

Will it even matter considering we're not paying QB money? We have money to spend after this year along with almost all our draft picks. Don't worry son, you'll come around.

 

[Kaiser]

That logic got us to 12-4 two years ago. Where has your logic (drafting a CB/S in 1st round) gotten us?

 

[windjc]

Nice logic.

 

[windjc]

Exactly. What kind of immediate impact did he have? :/

 

[ConceptCoop]

Nice logic.

You make this place worse.