Zeke is third overall in rushing

[windjc]

Byron doesn't play FS on obvious passing downs. He plays FS in the base defense, then plays man-to-man in passing situations. That's why Wilcox is on the field so much.

Ramsey could play FS in those situations, or allow Claiborne to. Both are a major upgrade to Wilcox, who struggles in coverage.

Really, how is Ramsey performing at safety for the Jags? Or are you just making assumptions and wild guesses?

 

[ConceptCoop]

How many pass deflections and INTs does Ramsey have?

I see. I was hoping to have a slightly more in depth discussion. Not sure you're up for that, if deflections and INTs are how you measure man-to-man CB play. He didn't allow a single completion against Aaron Rodgers and the Packers, btw. When you're playing well in man-to-man coverage, they don't throw your way. So it makes no sense to use boxscore stats to judge.

 

[windjc]

I see. I was hoping to have a slightly more in depth discussion. Not sure you're up for that, if deflections and INTs are how you measure man-to-man CB play. He didn't allow a single completion against Aaron Rodgers and the Packers, btw. When you're playing well in man-to-man coverage, they don't throw your way. So it makes no sense to use boxscore stats to judge.

So he one good game. Kinda like Zeke? Ok.

 

[ConceptCoop]

Really, how is Ramsey performing at safety for the Jags? Or are you just making assumptions and wild guesses?

He's playing corner for the Jags. And yes, it's an assumption that he can play safety. The same way it's an assumption that Zeke can finish with higher than a 3.9 YPC average this season.

 

[windjc]

He's playing corner for the Jags. And yes, it's an assumption that he can play safety. The same way it's an assumption that Zeke can finish with higher than a 3.9 YPC average this season.

Did I make that assumption? No.

 

[ConceptCoop]

So he one good game. Kinda like Zeke? Ok.

Nope. 3 good games. Seriously though, it's a bad sign when you're confident in an opinion on a matter you know nothing about. If you want to say Jalen Ramsey is struggling, at least watch the games or do some reading about him.

 

[windjc]

Nope. 3 good games. Seriously though, it's a bad sign when you're confident in an opinion on a matter you know nothing about. If you want to say Jalen Ramsey is struggling, at least watch the games or do some reading about him.

I did watch the games.

 

[ConceptCoop]

Did I make that assumption? No.

Sorry, but you're not really up to have a productive conversation on the subject. I'm not getting anything out of this, so I'll move along.

 

[drawandstrike]

Zeke already a big upgrade over McFadden when you factor in his ability to pick up blitzers.

2 years ago this team went 12-4 with Romo having a great year plus a fantastic, league-leading running game behind him. It won with a mediocre, and some would say, a below average defense.

Yes, we need defensive help. Yes, Ro McClain, DLaw, Gregory not being out there hurts the front seven.

But Jerry & the coaches opted for the FASTEST fix to get this team back into contention, and that was upgrading the running game behind Romo.
Romo going down in the 3rd preseason game and the awesome surprise at how well Dak has stepped in as a rookie, that's just gravy, man.

The goal was to get this team back to where it was in 2014 when it won 12 games with a fantastic offense and a suspect defense.

I'm not defending it, I'm merely pointing out the strategy pursued.

 

[windjc]

Sorry, but you're not really up to have a productive conversation on the subject. I'm not getting anything out of this, so I'll move along.

I am not sure what you wanted to get out of this conversation. If it was to argue that Ramsey should have been drafted instead of Zeke, I believe you are 100% wrong. If it was for any other reason, then its lost on me. If you have something of value to add that's not you being wrong about our draft, then please add it.

 

[windjc]

Zeke already a big upgrade over McFadden when you factor in his ability to pick up blitzers.

2 years ago this team went 12-4 with Romo having a great year plus a fantastic, league-leading running game behind him. It won with a mediocre, and some would say, a below average defense.

Yes, we need defensive help. Yes, Ro McClain, DLaw, Gregory not being out there hurts the front seven.

But Jerry & the coaches opted for the FASTEST fix to get this team back into contention, and that was upgrading the running game behind Romo.
Romo going down in the 3rd preseason game and the awesome surprise at how well Dak has stepped in as a rookie, that's just gravy, man.

The goal was to get this team back to where it was in 2004 when it won 12 games with a fantastic offense and a suspect defense.

I'm not defending it, I'm merely pointing out the strategy pursued.

Yes, people just don't get it. Its on them. Not Zeke.

 

[Galian Beast]

Yes, I kept rewinding his blitz pick ups. I saw one where he did not wait for the blitzing defender to even get on the offensive side of the ball, he immediately recognized him and launched like a torpedo to take his legs out from under him. Very impressive!

It's uncanny. It's a dimension that is overlooked with him.

 

[windjc]

It's uncanny. It's a dimension that is overlooked with him.

Right. Because some people think all you need to do if you're selected #5 is run for 60 yr touchdowns. Blocking is not important.

 

[Craig]

I did watch the games.

This is the time to pull out of the argument, not to dig in. Ramsey is playing well.

 

[ConceptCoop]

I am not sure what you wanted to get out of this conversation. If it was to argue that Ramsey should have been drafted instead of Zeke, I believe you are 100% wrong. If it was for any other reason, then its lost on me. If you have something of value to add that's not you being wrong about our draft, then please add it.

I'm dealing with someone who doesn't understand that raw stats don't accurately measure a man-to-man corners production. I'm dealing with someone who didn't realize Byron Jones isn't a full-time FS. I'm dealing with someone who claims to have watched all of the Jags games, yet suggesting Ramsey got worked over by Steve Smith. I hoped for a bit more. Again, moving on.

 

[Nightman]

This is the time to pull out of the argument, not to dig in. Ramsey is playing well.

Ramsey has a 14 tackles and no PDs or INTs

 

[bark]

One thing about the nfl draft once you make your picks there are no do overs.
No offense to Ramsey, but he's a jag now. Wish him well but my support is behind the kid we drafted.
Next year we go all in for defense in FA and the draft.
That's how we roll in jerrys world

 

[windjc]

This is the time to pull out of the argument, not to dig in. Ramsey is playing well.

The argument was about Zekes value. I'm dug in. Come join me. Dont keep standing. You'll get shot by the enemy. Reality.

 

[Nightman]

Glad you disagreed, while agreeing what we did last night wasn't impressive.

Yet he is on pace for 1440 yards and 11 TDs.........all without his starting QB and last night without his LT and LG

 

[Craig]

One thing about the nfl draft once you make your picks there are no do overs.
No offense to Ramsey, but he's a jag now. Wish him well but my support is behind the kid we drafted.
Next year we go all in for defense in FA and the draft.
That's how we roll in jerrys world

Those last two statements are contradictory.