Zeke still fast

[Ranched]

Thought the title read: Zeke still fat

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

It is true.

It’s also true that Zeke is no longer a dynamic playmaking RB.

LOL...people's perception....is a funny and odd thing.

I happen to think no one said that ever. Not in the same sentence. You put two different things together as if "people" (people? like how many?)...say it all the time.

No...it isn't true at all. People disappointed with Tony's two yards are ALSO disappointed in Zeke's.

If you want to be specific....getting two yards on 3rd and two....*could* be a completely different story. Those yards are a LOT harder to get and I bet Zeke does get more 3rd down conversions on a short run play. I bet people ARE more confident zeke gets it, for good reason. Either way people are happy when BOTH get those two yards.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Thought the title read: Zeke still fat

Someone already used the joke...sorry.

Ah...the good ol' fat zeke thing...never gets old huh?

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

LOL...people's perception....is a funny and odd thing.

I happen to think no one said that ever. Not in the same sentence. You put two different things together as if "people" (people? like how many?)...say it all the time.

No...it isn't true at all. People disappointed with Tony's two yards are ALSO disappointed in Zeke's.

If you want to be specific....getting two yards on 3rd and two....*could* be a completely different story. Those yards are a LOT harder to get and I bet Zeke does get more 3rd down conversions on a short run play. I bet people ARE more confident zeke gets it, for good reason. Either way people are happy when BOTH get those two yards.

“I happen to think…”

Awesome.

Here’s what we know:

Zeke…1,650 career rushes and just five (5) runs of 40+ yards. Three (3) of those came his rookie season in 2016.

Pollard…317 career rushes and four (4) runs of 40+ yards

 

[Typhus]

How many times did he have to sidestep right on the handoff. When your QB is tripping over the center's feet on a hand off play....you know there's an issue.

It was a comedy of errors, like running into a dirt wall.
I want to see what Zeke and Pollard can both do on the left side just for starters.
I want to be able to love picking up 3rd and shorts with confidence once again.

 

[jnday]

It’s hard to tell how fast he is because he’s not elusive and can’t avoid anyone. It’s almost like he looks for contact.

Running 22mph is apparently not fast enough for Zeke to make successful runs to the outside. He hasn’t been able to make those runs to the outside since his 3rd year in the league.

 

[KJJ]

Running 22mph is apparently not fast enough for Zeke to make successful runs to the outside. He hasn’t been able to make those runs to the outside since his 3rd year in the league.

He may have good straight away speed but he’s not quick and shifty. Tony Pollard can make defenders miss Zeke can’t. Zeke isn’t good on outside runs because he’s not able to bounce quickly to the outside and turn the corner.

 

[G2]

2016 & 2018 Zeke was dynamic. He's trailed off since.
This is why you don't invest an early 1st on a position that has become the shortest in the NFL.

The days of Emmitt Smith type RBs banging out 10+ seasons well over 1,000 yards and was a TD machine are over.

 

[JoeKing]

we started off 6-1 because of Zeke and the run game that fact he gets 2 injuries and you guys have selective memory's..steve posted videos that not a slot fat washed up back..sure hes overpaid who cares so are most players. He was very zeke like until he fell on the pylon that played on one knee.

they aid those things last off season and the first 7 games or so it was actually true.

You think how Zeke started the season matters. Okay. That's where we have a difference of opinion. It's how you finish that matters.

 

[john van brocklin]

He reached 22 miles this week in a work out. Stop sleeping on his speed. He’s probably faster than pollard. He just weighs more and doesn’t have a faster 5 yard burst.

Running backs don't usually age gracefully

 

[john van brocklin]

RG3 still runs fast.... in a straight line. Doesn't mean he can play. Running fast before folks beat on you is a totally different thing. Zeke will never be what he was. That Zeke is gone forever. Doesn't mean he's not a good back, but he's being paid as a great back.

Exactly

 

[blueblood70]

You think how Zeke started the season matters. Okay. That's where we have a difference of opinion. It's how you finish that matters.

cant control injuries having the correct non hater perspective is what matters..

the team finished poorly that the only fact here

Pinning it on a few unpopular players due to their contracts is a terrible narrative shared by clueless fans..

Zeke played hard al year and sorry he couldn't finish with back injury and torn PCl the way you expected..lmao

he showed his toughness, team play, and had respectable season given the facts.

 

[MyFairLady]

Zeke used to be god tier. Now he is a blob.

 

[JoeKing]

cant control injuries having the correct non hater perspective is what matters..

the team finished poorly that the only fact here

Pinning it on a few unpopular players due to their contracts is a terrible narrative shared by clueless fans..

Zeke played hard al year and sorry he couldn't finish with back injury and torn PCl the way you expected..lmao

he showed his toughness, team play, and had respectable season given the facts.

I didn't say Zeke's failure last year was malicious... It's a violent sport, Injury happens. His body broke down, it's just the fact.

 

[blueblood70]

I didn't say Zeke's failure last year was malicious... It's a violent sport, Injury happens. His body broke down, it's just the fact.

no he was inured Not broke down..high school players get the same injuries,,,gymnasts other sports etc etc no mater the age period end of story.,

 

[JoeKing]

no he was inured Not broke down..high school players get the same injuries,,,gymnasts other sports etc etc no mater the age period end of story.,

Look man, whatever. All I'm saying is what happened to Zeke last season wasn't his fault. He tried hard but he wasn't at his best due to injury.

 

[blueblood70]

Look man, whatever. All I'm saying is what happened to Zeke last season wasn't his fault. He tried hard but he wasn't at his best due to injury.

thats the issue DUDE

its all you are saying, its jab on zeke because yet again over his contract,


if MM says he looks fast and healthy like they did last year, and he proved it was true this threads true where everyone's questioning it. he literally was everything that was being reported, faster, quicker, and looked good up until mid season injuries..he was averaging 5.1 YPC can that not be any clearer the OP stated this many are questioning it but last season shows he the reports were true..no reason to think otherwise.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

“I happen to think…”

Awesome.

Here’s what we know:

Zeke…1,650 career rushes and just five (5) runs of 40+ yards. Three (3) of those came his rookie season in 2016.

Pollard…317 career rushes and four (4) runs of 40+ yards

Well of COURSE "I happen to think"...what the heck do you think this forum is all about? Heaving stats at each other?...and PRETENDING we don't hash 'em out like how we want?

You have the nerve to mock me for "I happen to think" qualifier...and completely ignored backing up your claim "people say...". Humm...that's rich!

Speaking of heaving stats....what you did here...you threw out some stats..and expect an assessment of them...without any regard for context. Stats are meaningless without context, let alone "I happen to think this..." about them. What do they mean? They mean "I happen to think". People make gobs of money doing that very thing on radio, tv and print. So ....your ridicule means ZERO...less than zero.

Does your precious stat take into consideration the plays called?, the roles expected? the defenses played? Score? Time of game? Does it consider the amount of times zeke has saved Dak's but(t) by throwing his body on a big linebacker or even offensive lineman?

No...you just throw out a stat and expect people to say...well by gosh that settles it then... s. can zeke and start Tony.

#2's are EXPECTED to have big splash plays...often called "change of pace" for that very reason. Our #2's have ALWAYS had obscene stats..it's how it works. Until they assume a #1 role and flake out.

I am not saying Zeke is the every best RB and will get 150 yards a game. Especially the way idiot Kellen Moore schemes it. I am also not saying Tony cannot assume a #1 role. He's never done it before, (NCAA or NFL)...so can we know either way? I just advise caution about it it instead of smug reckless assumptions because you hate Zeke.
.
You prepared to risk injury to a seemingly not so rugged tony pollard?
You prepared to risk injury to Dak on a missed block...or many?

I happen to think both Tony AND Zeke could make a formidable duo. Our silly musicall chairs o-line and idiot Kellen Moore have prevented their effective results. Along with some nagging injuries to both of course.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

Y’all apologists can chew on the facts.

 

[TheCritic]

I've been one of the harshest critics of Zeke, especially that hideous signing. But if I'm being honest, if you go back to 2016, just look at the size of the holes he had! I think there are a lot of backs that could have had the kind of productivity he had.

So what I'm saying now is that if the rookie Smith can be the road grader and the center improves, there's a chance that Zeke gets that extra half second to get to the 2nd level and produces more big plays. And no I'm not arguing for extending Zeke beyond this season.

Instead I'm making the case to run him into the ground like they did with Demarco Murray back in 2014, then cut his ***!!