Zeke's girlfriend alleges domestic violence

[PhillyCowboysFan]

You said 'he' several times....I was correcting that....I did also state that she was very anti-DV publicly...she was not going to dismiss the charges against the most famous person in her court knowing that a guilty verdict would instantly be rendered meaningless....

-NC Bench trials are non-binding arbitration
-they weed out the weak cases or the easy cases
-they don't even use court reporters or keep notes
-you keep using terms like verdict and appeal like they apply to other courts and it just is not the same
-when a person 'appeals' a bench trial verdict it no longer matters...they get their constitutional guaranteed right to due process and a jury trial...they even have to be arraigned again...the bench trial 'verdict' is completely discarded...that is why when the charges were dropped they don't revert back to the bench trial's finding...it was like it NEVER happened....it has no standing and should not be used against Hardy in any way

-anyone that talks about a settlement is just speculating, so again that is not some kind of smoking gun

I only used terms that a read from the articles. But you also said that their was "prosecutorial misconduct". You accused them of hiding key evidence in which is so false and a blatent lie by you, or are you really just not that much in the know as you pretend to be. You tell me.

But thank you anyway bk. If I ever get in trouble with the law in North Carolina I'll be sure to secure a retainer for your representation. Just make sure you stay at a Holiday Inn the night before.

 

[Tabascocat]

I think we've heard enough of the Hardy case for several lifetimes....for several people. I get the comparison.

Let's get back on the topic of EE or has this thread reached the end?

Lock it up!

 

[PhillyCowboysFan]

and yet you can't find one thing incorrect about what I said

You absolutely lied that there was "Prosecutorial Misconduct" when in fact that never happened. It was definitely "Prosecutorial Incompentence", not even close to being the same thing.

 

[speedkilz88]

You absolutely lied that there was "Prosecutorial Misconduct" when in fact that never happened. It was definitely "Prosecutorial Incompentence", not even close to being the same thing.

No he didn't. She changed her story at least 3 times with police and the da and that was not known to the defense until right before the case was finally dropped.

 

[TheKey]

didnt read any of this thread and im glad

 

[Nightman]

No he didn't. She changed her story at least 3 times with police and the da and that was not known to the defense until right before the case was finally dropped.

thank you and then they used talk of a settlement as a cover up even though that would have been a crime in itself

AND that is it for me Jobber on the Hardy stuff but the similarities do warrant an examination

 

[rynochop]

Lock it up!

X2 This things run its course, Zeke is innocent. I thought his tweet about his 21st birthday winding down at 10:20 was more newsworthy.ha

 

[Nightman]

The scary thing is that there is absolutely nothing that can be done to prevent someone from going full on evil and trying to ruin your life....I'm sure that they were once a great couple and had a lot of fun together.....but people don't show their true selves for a long time and that is why EE was probably trying to end it, he caught a glimpse....these guys can't live in a bubble....what good is being rich and famous if you can't even have a little fun

 

[PhillyCowboysFan]

No he didn't. She changed her story at least 3 times with police and the da and that was not known to the defense until right before the case was finally dropped.

Speed you should have checked your facts before responding. But I forgive you. He blatantly lied about "Prosecutorial Misconduct".

Here is his quote:

I am sorry but your interpretation of a trial and a judge's verdict is completely wrong..it was just a preliminary hearing to settle the easy cases...it was also based on lies that were hidden from the defense....when the defense got all the evidence through discovery it was revealed that the DA hid key exculpatory evidence and the Ms Holder was generally untrustworthy as a witness....when confronted with this proof of prosecutorial misconduct they immediately dropped all charges
ps- the bench trial judge was also a woman that made being tough on DV a platform of re-election campaign

That never happened. Here is a quote from the article:

"But other details also raised unanswered questions about prosecutors’ handling of the case. Hardy’s defense team announced an appeal of his conviction before leaving court in July. But Murray said prosecutors only “recently” had compared what Holder told police the night of the alleged assault with her testimony at Hardy’s first trial.
That’s because prosecutors didn’t have a trial transcript. Hardy’s defense team did – attorney Chris Fialko hired a court reporter at Hardy’s trial in District Court where transcripts are not normally prepared. According to court records, Fialko also fought the prosecution’s request for a copy of the transcript in the weeks leading up to Hardy’s trial this week."

That is incompetence, not misconduct. One is criminal!

It's also funny that the article states a conviction, a trail and a appeal, all which our esteem lawyer bk said that those doesn't or didn't happen in North Carolina

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/latest-news/article10422650.html#storylink=cpy

 

[jobberone]

Lock it up!

Only if it gets bad. This is tame and relatively well behaved.....so far. I'm just tired of the Hardy stuff although I get the comparison. My being tired of it is not a valid reason to close it BTW.

 

[PhillyCowboysFan]

I apologize to everyone on this thread. I didn't mean to hijack it if that's what this is called. I respect everyone's opinion. What gets me is people that knows everything and can't be wrong or corrected. I've been wrong before, accepted it and have stand corrected. I've learned things and I believe I have brought just a little insight and knowledge.

 

[AbeBeta]

I'm in school now. Politics is a huge part of it. It filters into pretty much every aspect of the education with very few exceptions.

That happens in political science courses kid

 

[AbeBeta]

As I said, there's a huge disparity. I've hired kids with MBAs that couldn't build a spreadsheet or understand a budget.

Probably more about them being bad hires. Those are skills. You teach those skills but if they use them, the skill fades.

 

[Nightman]

And there wasn't a single person on this forum defending CJ Spillman - either before or after his conviction.

I also believed the allegations about Randle at the hotel with his girlfriend that night when he was arrested and caught grief for jumping the gun

I really do try to treat each case independently

I expected Ro to be involved in his house fire but was proven wrong

 

[VACowboy]

I don't think we ever know the truth in these cases unless someone shoots a video. Too much money involved and too much other stuff at stake for the athletes and the multibillion dollar entities that make up the NFL. I hate the idea that real abuse gets swept under the rug for the sake of football, but I have no doubt that it does. I have equal contempt when false accusations are made and it costs innocent people a lot more than just contracts and reputations, but I don't doubt that happens too. I'm human and a fan so I usually hope my guy ends up playing, even though that's usually hard to reconcile. I hope E didn't do it, but I'll be afraid that he did until he's officially cleared by all parties.

I see what it looks like, but I don't know what went down with Holder, why she disappeared and the case was dropped, but that left things messy and unsettled for me and I'm glad Hardy's gone. I just really hope Elliot is vindicated a whole lot more clearly than that.

 

[Denim Chicken]

 

[jwitten82]

You are full of it ...... Everything I posted was factual.

They are not similar at all ....... and your hero worship of that ******** thug is sickening.

Idc, I want Hardy on our team. If she took the pay, I dont see why it matters

 

[Spectre]

Hasn't even stepped on the field yet and already Zeke is dodging pursuers and breaking tackles!
(insert Arsenio Hall 'hooh hooh hooh' here)

 

[Kevinicus]

That happens in political science courses kid

Nope, I don't take those. It's in computers, management, business, even accounting and math. Anyone who has read a textbook recently would know it.

 

[dogunwo]

Is this thread finally over?