Zimmer from the media's perspective

[khiladi]

Never seen a coach play from the side lines. What would you have done different? This should be entertaining.

I love the typical response... what would you do better than Parcells... I know I can't coach better than Dave Campo let alone Parcells, but I sure as hell can tell when something stinks, and what he is doing is not working...

 

[Joe_Fan]

No one mentioned last nights game, clown.

Re-read the first post in this thread, and it points to 6 games in the past two years.

Once again it amazes me how these people can actually defend Zimmer after all these years and it's hilarious to see all of the excuses to help him escape blame.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

First of all I wouldn't go cover 2 when we haven't been able to run it properly in years.

Adopting a defensive philosophy that tries to generate a pass rush might be nice too. But heck, why would we want to do that? Our think run first mentality seems to be so much better.

We try to generate a pass rush every play. Thats what defenses do.
Doesn't that go back to the players?

 

[Joe_Fan]

I love the typical response... what would you do better than Parcells... I know I can't coach better than Dave Campo let alone Parcells, but I sure as hell can tell when something stinks...

Exactly.

We could have every single defensive player from the Ravens defense and still end up being made look pathetic.

 

[SA_Gunslinger]

No one mentioned last nights game, clown.

Re-read the first post in this thread, and it points to 6 games in the past two years.

we've been a top 10 defense 3 of the last 4 years, including first in 2003, and third thus far this season.

 

[Joe_Fan]

We try to generate a pass rush every play. Thats what defenses do.
Doesn't that go back to the players?

Actually, if you actually have been paying attention these past few years and been listening to some of our own defensive players you might come to understand that generating a pass rush isn't our primary focus.

Go back and listen to some of Bradie James's comments, Marcus Spears's comments, and multiple other defensive players and you'll hear from themselves that isn't what we try to do.

We try to contain the run and force things outside without focusing on the pass rush.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

I love the typical response... what would you do better than Parcells... I know I can't coach better than Dave Campo let alone Parcells, but I sure as hell can tell when something stinks, and what he is doing is not working...

And he knows when the players are making mistakes. Just like he said. The one thing that probably fooled him was Kearney (sp) getting the ball, it never happened before last night.

 

[khiladi]

Please tell me what Parcells had to work with when he arrived? Then tell me where we are talent wise now. One bad game dude. Any one who thought it was a quick fix after ten years......... well responds like you do.

The Saints had a hurricane that destroyed their stadium and were playing at another turf for their home games... they were absolutely horrid.. the next year, they are 9-4 thoroughly smashing this guy by the name of Parcells, despite being shoddy a year ago in the talent department... Parcells has 4 years, and Peyton, one year...

 

[Joe_Fan]

we've been a top 10 defense 3 of the last 4 years, including first in 2003, and third thus far this season.

Once again we're paper champions.

You seriously think any offense is afraid of playing our D?

Oh.. oh.. but we look great on paper.

 

[MRTRIPOD]

WHY?

because he always has top ranked units

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Actually, if you actually have been paying attention these past few years and been listening to some of our own defensive players you might come to understand that generating a pass rush isn't our primary focus.

Go back and listen to some of Bradie James's comments, Marcus Spears's comments, and multiple other defensive players and you'll hear from themselves that isn't what we try to do.

We try to contain the run and force things outside without focusing on the pass rush.

And if you are paying attention we usually get torched when we do let them go. Thats why we don't.

 

[MRTRIPOD]

Once again we're paper champions.

You seriously think any offense is afraid of playing our D?

Oh.. oh.. but we look great on paper.

look....he was answering the poster's question of WHY he is considered a TOP DC

 

[The30YardSlant]

When you have:

Terence Newman (Arguably the best cover corner in football)

Anthony Henry (One of the best #2 corners out there and leads the league in passes defensed)

Jason Ferguson (The only nose tackle better than him is Casey Hampton)

DeMarcus Ware (One of the best pure edge rushers in the league and a freakish athlete)

Roy Williams (Though average in coverage, is the biggest playmaker at safety in the league statistically, as he leads the league in takeaways)

Akin Ayodele and Bradie James (The best 3-4 MLB duo in the league)

You simply have no excuse for giving up 500 yards and 42 points to ANYONE, let alone a rookie coach whose two biggest offensive playmakers are also rookies. Just pitiful.

I have supported Zimmer all this time, but no more. I've had it. The man just doesnt allow his playmakers to make plays.

 

[Joe_Fan]

The Saints had a hurricane that destroyed their stadium and were playing at another turf for their home games... they were absolutely horrid.. the next year, they are 9-4 thoroughly smashing this guy by the name of Parcells, despite being shoddy a year ago in the talent department... Parcells has 4 years, and Peyton, one year...

It's always excuses.

It seems like people are so use to being average and paying attention to stats on paper that they're too blind to see the reality of things.

Homerism at it's finest.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

we've been a top 10 defense 3 of the last 4 years, including first in 2003, and third thus far this season.

Facts, facts, facts. Not nearly as fun as making crap up.

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

we've been a top 10 defense 3 of the last 4 years, including first in 2003, and third thus far this season.

Yet we still can't generate a pass rush, put together a quality game-plan, or stand our ground when the game is on the line.

 

[khiladi]

And he knows when the players are making mistakes. Just like he said. The one thing that probably fooled him was Kearney (sp) getting the ball, it never happened before last night.

Of course, for Parcells it's always the players making mistakes and not executing properly... we keep hearing it all the time...

"the players need to execute"...

it is shifting the blame away... dude... they were running the screen pass all day... they were attacking the flat all day... Dallas made NO ADJUSTMENTS AT HALF-TIME... it as ALL coaching...

for Parcell's scheme to work, he needs supermen in every position... it doesn't happen.. When Parcells had his superman, it was a guy by the name of LT, a guy that was known to FREE-LANCE, and make plays... an LT comes once in a millenium... I didn't hear Parcells whining than...

 

[HoleInTheRoof]

Facts, facts, facts. Not nearly as fun as making crap up.

Read the first post again.

Prey tell what part of it was "made up".

 

[Joe_Fan]

And if you are paying attention we usually get torched when we do let them go. Thats why we don't.

Torched? By the likes of who?

Isn't it amazing that we can have players who are here and play so poorly but yet they go to other teams and thrive?

Nah, the coaching doesn't have anything to do with that.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

When you have:

Terence Newman (Arguably the best cover corner in football)

Anthony Henry (One of the best #2 corners out there and leads the league in passes defensed)

Jason Ferguson (The only nose tackle better than him is Casey Hampton)

DeMarcus Ware (One of the best pure edge rushers in the league and a freakish athlete)

Roy Williams (Though average in coverage, is the biggest playmaker at safety in the league statistically, as he leads the league in takeaways)

Akin Ayodele and Bradie James (The best 3-4 MLB duo in the league)

You simply have no excuse for giving up 500 yards and 42 points to ANYONE, let alone a rookie coach whose two biggest offensive playmakers are also rookies. Just pitiful.

I have supported Zimmer all this time, but no more. I've had it. The man just doesnt allow his playmakers to make plays.

You forgot where that rookie coach came from. Name me a coach who knows more about the Cowboys. I can think of one.