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Silverstar said:
Players make all the difference and we simply didn't have the right players at LB for the 3-4



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Wolverine said:
Mike Zimmer excuse #73549871032947120970913241907143247098132740


Are you saying we did have the right LB's to play the 3-4 last year?


Good luck with that one.
 

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Who taught Zimmer this new 3-4 defense this off season? This is not the defense he has always coached. I think Zim did one hell of a job. We even had players playing this D for the first time ever. So easy on Zimmer.
 

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Murph80 said:
Who taught Zimmer this new 3-4 defense this off season?

Mike Zimmer excuse #73549871032947120970913241907143247098132741

This is not the defense he has always coached.


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We even had players playing this D for the first time ever

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I have said this a thousand times but some of you just refuse to listen, it is not Zimmer,s fault. The HC can overrule him at any time so why would Bill the master you guys think he is not step in......please one of you morons please explain this to me please
 

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watertown said:
I have said this a thousand times but some of you just refuse to listen, it is not Zimmer,s fault. The HC can overrule him at any time so why would Bill the master you guys think he is not step in......please one of you morons please explain this to me please

Lets see Zimmer is the defensive Cord but its not his fault. Ok.....
Zimmers passive defensive schemes are the HC idea.Ok....
The last 4 HC all had the same passive defensive scheme. Ok....

Yeh youre right its not Zimmer scheme or his fault at all:lmao:
 

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texastwister said:
Lets see Zimmer is the defensive Cord but its not his fault. Ok.....
Zimmers passive defensive schemes are the HC idea.Ok....
The last 4 HC all had the same passive defensive scheme. Ok....

Yeh youre right its not Zimmer scheme or his fault at all:lmao:

Zim is a DC coaching a defense that he has never coached before because the head coach mandated it.

Isn't this BP's defense? Shouldn't he have showed him some of these "aggressive" defensive schemes?

You are fooling yourself if you think BP just said "Learn and implement the 3-4" and kept his fingers off it.

Remember the "zero" blitz? How is that anything but aggressive? Let's send both our safeties on the blitz and leave our corners in man coverage without deep help. Thats so wussy.
 

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If Mike Zimmer was the Steelers DC the Steelers woulda lost big today. Manning woulda been good for at least 400 yards and 5 TDs.


I look at how the Steelers DC had a game plan for the Colts and pressured Manning all day and I just shake my head wonderin *** this team is doin wastin time with that moron Zimmer. Fire him now and just get Capers here.

Capers would give us a D like the Steelers have. Mike Zimmer SUCKS!

I dont want to plagarize so I'm just gonna quote ya.
 

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texastwister said:
Lets see Zimmer is the defensive Cord but its not his fault. Ok.....
Zimmers passive defensive schemes are the HC idea.Ok....
The last 4 HC all had the same passive defensive scheme. Ok....

Yeh youre right its not Zimmer scheme or his fault at all:lmao:


What is really sad TT is that it will take a real DC like Dom Capers to come here for the Zimmer lovers to finally wake up and see what a sorry excuse for a DC Zimmer really is.

Our Defense did good IN SPITE of Mike Zimmer. Not because of him.



junk said:
Zim is a DC coaching a defense that he has never coached before because the head coach mandated it.

Isn't this BP's defense? Shouldn't he have showed him some of these "aggressive" defensive schemes?

You are fooling yourself if you think BP just said "Learn and implement the 3-4" and kept his fingers off it.

Remember the "zero" blitz? How is that anything but aggressive? Let's send both our safeties on the blitz and leave our corners in man coverage without deep help. Thats so wussy.


Please save the excuse for the Zimmer can do no wrong club. More and more people are seein what a joke Mike Zimmer really is.
 

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Please save the excuse for the Zimmer can do no wrong club. More and more people are seein what a joke Mike Zimmer really is.

I never said he could do no wrong. I just don't think he is the buffoon that people like to make him out to be. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see Zim being the HC after BP leaves.

I want to know how he can be at fault when he was forced to coach a defensive scheme he knew nothing about.

Unless he gets a HC gig, I don't think he is going anywhere.
 

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junk said:
. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised to see Zim being the HC after BP leaves.

If Mike Zimmer becomes HC of the Cowboys is the day I quit watchin football.


I want to know how he can be at fault when he was forced to coach a defensive scheme he knew nothing about.

He didnt know anything about running a good 4-3 either.


Unless he gets a HC gig, I don't think he is going anywhere.

I pray to God you are wrong. The day Mike Zimmer is fired is the day our defense improves by a huge amount.
 

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I'm still waiting for one basher with an intelligent, logical post.

This wait will last forever.
 

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blindzebra said:
I'm still waiting for one basher with an intelligent, logical post.

This wait will last forever.


Seein that you think Zimmer is the greatest DC the NFL has ever seen. Nothing will ever make you figure it out.


If we had a HOFer at every position on defense and still got the same no pressure and sacks on QBs you would say how guys like Randy White and Ray Lewis suck while sayin Mike Zimmer is the greatest ever.
 

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Cbz40 said:
Yes it is amazing.....why our D can't put together a few blitz packages that work. It just boggles my old brain cells.
Zimmer can't do it, we really need to make a change. we dont have anything creative, its the most basic defense ever, and we should have a lot more turnovers if we had blitz packages like pittsburgh.
 

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junk said:
Zim is a DC coaching a defense that he has never coached before because the head coach mandated it.

Isn't this BP's defense? Shouldn't he have showed him some of these "aggressive" defensive schemes?

You are fooling yourself if you think BP just said "Learn and implement the 3-4" and kept his fingers off it.

Remember the "zero" blitz? How is that anything but aggressive? Let's send both our safeties on the blitz and leave our corners in man coverage without deep help. Thats so wussy.


I like the Zimmer lovers saying that 3-4 isnt his defense. I agree What is? The 4-3 the Nickle because every scheme is the same.

And the zero blitz yes its aggressive but we use it to get pressure our the QB because the front 4 with the paly run first then pass scheme cant get pressure on the QB. So lets Blitz both safties watch the offense pick up the Blitz and leave our 2 CB with no help.
Thats the Zim defense I love to see.:(
 

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i dont mind what we have in zimmer, give him 2 more years in a 3-4 before i can really critique him
 

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texastwister said:
For those of you that watched the Steelers game and will watch the Bears game-Can you see the difference in those 2 defense compared too Dallas?

These defenses are aggresive and cause turnovers unlike Zimmers defense



Maybe you should look at the Carolina-Bears game and see how Steve Smith just about beat the Bears by him self before you start wishing Zimmer was gone
 

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Get Capers...he was the original Blitzburgh DC.

Parcells wont do that because it would be a threat to him...Someone might know how to run the 3-4 besides him.
 

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I will give him 2 more years in the 3-4 if he would have given us 9 years in a 4-3 that got me excited. And dont give me the #1 defense that we had. The defense is ranked by yards not turn overs. Talk to me when we lead the NFL in INT or sacks then I will praise Zim.

Just for the record I defended Zim when he was offered the job the Nebraska job. I said he was a good DC. I have now seen the light. I watched more games of other teams the last 2 years and now I am blaming Zim for the scheme.

Jerry has brought him talent, we have drafted talent and our players we dont bring back seem to do better in other schemes. Omar Stoutmire(Sp) not saying he was an all pro but he played better in a different scheme. With the Giants he was nasty.


The big difference I see in other defenses is when they have someone go down they plug in another body. Our scheme we get hurt because we rely on the players talent not the scheme.

ALso if Zim is the DC next year I will still Cheer for Zim and the Boys but if Zim leaves I will not shed 1 tear. I instead will drink a beer!
 

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It doesnt matter if he killed them or not. Look at the carolina defense then. The moral is other defense get pressure and change games with BIG TIME DEFENSE. We do not or will not ever have with Zim.

How many times did you say Joe Smow beat us because we didnt make the guy feel uncomfortable in the pocket. See New Orleans game when some smuck made our defense look like crap. We looked like we were playing against Young or Elway that game.
 
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