I Was Wrong About Kellen The Hammer Moore

Its' obvious the Ain'ts front office is nowhere near as brilliant and capable as the Philly organization..- KM won't near have the luxury of a front office as Philly
..their once stout defense under Dennis Allen has decline to one of the worst. Be interesting to see how Kellen's ex-HC Brandon Staley tries to revive such a defense.

And there's an aging Kamara,

it's a reason why the Aints are at the top of the NFL draft nowadays
 
I have been wrong about Kellen Moore. While I disagree with hiring him as a QB coach with zero experience since we were not rebuilding that year, I think it’s obvious “The Hammer” is a great offensive coordinator, especially when he is coaching for a) an elite organization, b) with an elite GM, and c) an owner who is not stepping in front of every camera at every possible opportunity.

Moore deserves his shot at an NFL head coaching job and it will be interesting to see how he does.

I still marvel at the fans that can’t believe he selected any team over Dallas. Why would Moore return to Dallas to be Jerry’s scapegoat assistant TO the head coach (ref: The Office).

I maligned Moore during his tenure under head coach Jones and I was wrong. Consider this my public apology lol.
My only problem with giving Moore too much credit is that a lot of his success as an offensive coordinator came under offensive-minded coaches. How much of what Philly did was Nick Sirianni (a former OC) and how much was Moore?
 
I'm not one of his fanboys but I never thought he was the problem here either, we all know the plug QB he was working with was. I think he should have stayed in Philthy for 1-2 more seasons tho and waited for a better opening elsewhere, he won't do **** with that crap roster in NO.
 
Any OC will look good when they have a QB playing at a high level, with the leagues leading rusher, running behind possibly the best OL in the league.
Don't forget having a good D.
 
The only thing I like about Philly fans is that even in the 90’s they’d never say (out loud) that anyone from Dallas was elite.
 
I think KM was in a toxic environment in Dallas…we can all speculate, but who really knows the real circumstances behind his departure.
With that being said, I think KM is a talented OC; however, being a HC is a different gig altogether, so let’s see how he does in New Orleans before we start throwing shade in his direction.
 
You were not wrong. He is not going to be a good head coach. It takes more than just knowing X's and O's.
 
Cowboy fans of course who think players and sometime coaches should offer a hometown discount to the owner who is more concerned with profit margins than championships. The same idiots that think Parsons should sign a long term deal here to squander his entire career on a team that will never get past the divisional round.
Saying that all these players are so stupid they were mesmerized hypnotized and forced?/​
somehow Jerry Jones has something on them personally, like blackmail ,and made all these players over the last 30 years sign these huge ridiculously overpaid contracts?​
why didn't they walk away they were free that includes will mcclay and a bunch of coaches.. I don't even know where this is coming from, literally Jerry Jones turned down Moore he rejected Kellen Moore and MM... Bill Belichick and Moore both wanted to coach here and Brian schottenheimer got the job and people are upset..​
I was a little shocked myself but the coaching staff looks good but now we're talking about players I mean you act like Moore turned down Jerry Jones and that was absolutely false he wanted this job he never got his second interview because Brian schottenheimer stole the job from him good bad or indifferent we won't know till there's some actual data from on the field coaching staff to find out who won this hiring process..​

But how this turned into talking about our players this is how ridiculous this place is you start a post about Kellen Moore that there's already four others open and now you have to talk about Jerry Jones and the organization as if you're a Philadelphia Eagles fan maybe you should be you should walk over there and become a fan of them because you for sure are not a fan of the Dallas Cowboys..

This right now it's a lot like we have to talk to mass fans we know you hate the Luca trade most of us do there was a couple of bad trades in the last month probably historically bad by the front office and the GM were really really stupid that tells you this is not just about Jerry Jones lots of organizations do stupid stuff..

But that does not mean you turn on your team you still need to root for the players the players have nothing to do with this you still need to root for your team openly and not try to destroy them along with the old saying don't throw the baby out with the bathwater well sometimes you just have to ignore the organization just so you can root for your favorite team without having alleged fans**** all over them on a daily basis in a place that we're supposed to all be fans instead it feels like I stepped into enemy territory on a daily basis when I come in here..​

But don't act like these players know the choices they're making and they're choosing to play for the Dallas Cowboys and there's good reason for it the Dallas Cowboys are still a premier team when it comes to name recognition they're getting paid and yes if you notice some of the post their top 6 to top ten in regular season win percentage and get to at least play for division titles and playoff games that's more than a lot of teams I get it you want to be compared to the top five teams we want better we want to go further in the playoffs we know narrative but that doesn't make this place a bad destination for coaches or players there are far worse places to go in this league where people careers go to die because most of the ones here their careers are not dying they're still winning awards and they're getting paid and that's the bottom line to most of sports now it's about the money.

I mean Prescott's had two opportunities to leave here and he has it why he could have got that money elsewhere he could at least got 55 to $60 million from about 5 other teams you may not like him I don't know what your feelings are but in here he's not a very well received just like Romo two of the better quarterbacks to ever play for the Dallas Cowboys somehow get the most hate but that's where I'm starting if these players felt that this was a bad place to be they've had multiple opportunities to leave and do not do so so why are you calling these players stupid you're calling the fans stupid for wanting one of the players that make it more fun to watch to stay on their teams you're calling us idiots and also wanting them to not hold the team hostage trying to get this historically big non quarterback money i wanna be the next highest paid greed.​

There's a fine line between all of this but I got to tell you these posts go off kilter when all you do is bring up the same things on every thread it's like you disguise this as a kellan Moore thread now it's a bast Jerry Jones idiots, Dallas Cowboys fans are idiots, and now calling the players too stupid even though they have agents and they have choices ,they're choosing to stay here and yet you're calling everybody idiots,

maybe you want to look in the mirror.... Maybe it's you and your little gang of Dallas cowboy haters they're the ones who are wasting time you're the ones who should look in the mirror when you're calling other people stupid because if you hate the team so much then why don't you just leave pack up move on delete your account send all your gear to goodwill and let's just let this be a real fan site and not a everyday haters site..
 
Moore had a the #1 offense for this non elite organization(top 5 every year Dak was healthy), that does not have an elite GM(your and many other ill informed view... Just a GM who provided him just as much talent as that elite organization), and with the owner stepping in front of every camera at every opportunity...

Non falsehood fly zone with Game around
well that means we should have kept Mike McCarthy because in 2023 they had the top scoring offense in the league the number one wide receiver in quarterback combo in the league that means Mike McCarthy is a genius who should have easily got another job I mean is that the way you're looking at it or maybe it is the damn talent and Kelly Moore is so overrated right now because he had one of the best rosters top to bottom on both sides of the ball to hide any flaws he may have cover up anything he might have same with type of players like jalen hurts can make mistakes and it didn't matter they were gonna win the game and somehow now he's being overrated because of that the criteria going back and using those stats then Mike McCarthy with Prescott healthy at one of his best years ever Prescott literally was second in team all pro second MVP boating that means Mike McCarthy is a damn genius that should I guess kept his job here easily got a job elsewhere by your standards we're gonna rue the day we let these people go..
 
The only thing I like about Philly fans is that even in the 90’s they’d never say (out loud) that anyone from Dallas was elite.

I know at least a hundred that would easily say it out loud. And they are diehard fans. Not all diehard fans take themselves and their fandom too seriously. Some of those here that say to enjoy the journey should actually try to understand it rather than telling others to live it.
 
Mostly agree. He did pretty well in Dallas, and was likely let go because he wasn't a McCarthy guy more so than the results werent there. LA was a tough gig as the injuries piled up. Go to Philly and you walk into one of the best situations in football. Moore seems like a good offensive mind, but like most coaches it comes down to the talent level of the team you have that determines if you can succeed or not. For that reason I too expect he struggles in New Orleans. If he doesnt he deserves a TON of credit.
yeah if he turns NO around, then break out the annointing oil. i have a hard time seeing it personally. one because the talent just isn't there. and two i don't see him as a leader of men. he seems like a fantastic second in command
 
It's funny how KM seems to be the only one who gets an asterisk for having a "stacked offense" in Philly, as if that’s the only reason he succeeded. I don’t mean to be rude, but....duh. Doesn’t that help any offensive coordinator? Does Ben Johnson get the same treatment for having a stacked offense in Detroit?

It’s interesting how people’s takes often seem shaped by biases or whatever supports their narrative, probably because he's an ex-Cowboy.
Personally I'm on record for doubting Ben Johnson for just that reason. It's not necessarily a *knock* but you have to wonder who's doing the heavy lifting.

seeing guys more out of less is where I get excited.
 
We've had top offenses with Moore. The problem with us is that we never show up in big games, with either the defense or offense folding. That defense holding Patrick Mahomes to 0 points until the 3rd was a huge part of the Eagles winning. The Eagles were stacked on both sides of the ball, so a lot of those high scoring games now look much better since they are Ws instead of Ls whereas our offense might have put up 40 points but the defense folds and we still lose or vice versa with the offense completely freezing up while the defense is holding. This league is all about the FO and their FO has stocked both sides of the ball with a ton of talent and they have proper coaching in place. Kellen looks much better when their defense is hoilding up and high scoring games actually result in wins.
 
“The Hammer” could not describe Moore less. That guy is a total goober that got this job because he got to coach a LOADED offense. I mean look at that Eagles team. Loaded everywhere.
 
I have been wrong about Kellen Moore. While I disagree with hiring him as a QB coach with zero experience since we were not rebuilding that year, I think it’s obvious “The Hammer” is a great offensive coordinator, especially when he is coaching for a) an elite organization, b) with an elite GM, and c) an owner who is not stepping in front of every camera at every possible opportunity.

Moore deserves his shot at an NFL head coaching job and it will be interesting to see how he does.

I still marvel at the fans that can’t believe he selected any team over Dallas. Why would Moore return to Dallas to be Jerry’s scapegoat assistant TO the head coach (ref: The Office).

I maligned Moore during his tenure under head coach Jones and I was wrong. Consider this my public apology lol.
Well said
 
I also think that he would do fairly well as a head coach… Just not in New Orleans
Time will tell but what if he goes in there & makes the hard decisions and within a couple years has that team rebuilt?

All we really have any insight into is his offensive tendencies. Now we'll get to see his organizational views.
 
Any OC will look good when they have a QB playing at a high level, with the leagues leading rusher, running behind possibly the best OL in the league.

I don't understand why people don't understand this. There are TWENTY other coordinators who would have looked good leading THAT Eagles offense and winning the Superbowl.

The people who don't understand football are fully crediting Moore as if he built that offense and they couldn'thqve succeeded without him. Please....
 
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