Brees willing to take below market contract

[DFWJC]

Of course he is willing.

 

[kskboys]

Because he clearly wants the most he can get which is his right as a player and I would not tell anyone else in any other job that they do not have the right to try and earn as much as they can. It was the motivation of Drew Brees for most of his career, Brady before he married Giselle, and pretty much every other top QB on down to the mid level guys all wanting the most they possibly can.

No he did not. He did not take the highest paid contract in his first extension because at the time there were still question marks about him and experts were asking was he just along for the ride. It was not until after that contract, and when he got a certain elite WR, that people stopped asking if he was that good but by then he had married into someone making double his money

Also last I checked 30 million is in fact 6 million less than 36 million so you are not just as rich. As much as you are worth does not mean "20% less than what I am worth because its close enough," its means it is fine for him to want to every penny.

Yeah, we already agreed to that, so you can stop repeating yourself.

So, you'd rather Dak get paid 40 mil/season and lose than Dak get paid 30 mil/season and win. Why is what Dak makes more important to you than the Cowboys winning? I find this very strange.

 

[kskboys]

I don’t feel he was cheated. It is a simple fact. He has been the best value in the NFL for the past 4 years since he significantly outperformed his rookie contract. I would not expect that player to then look to take a team friendly deal at the first opportunity he has to actually get paid what he thinks he is worth. Not sure why this is an issue. Whether you want him to get paid or not, surely you can see it isn’t irrational for him to play a little hard ball, especially when some of his teammates have been rewarded for doing the same thing.

To be clear, I don't consider the 33 mil/season he was offered "team friendly." I consider that a fair offer. Why would anyone call that anything else?

 

[armadillooutlaw]

To be clear, I don't consider the 33 mil/season he was offered "team friendly." I consider that a fair offer. Why would anyone call that anything else?

Yes, it was fair, not team friendly. It's just what market value was at the time.
Still not a bad offer, IMO.

 

[Buzzbait]

It's too bad our genius GM and his adopted idiot son/coach didn't take advantage when we had the unfair advantage with Dak's rookie contract. With that being said I wish Dak would follow Brees and Brady's lead by being a team player with the cap. He'll take a little less to hopefully win a little more, or win it all. And leave a legacy behind.

So do I plymker. I also wish that the Cowboys would follow the example set by the Patriots and learn to manage the salary cap instead of shooting themselves in the foot by overpaying players. If they hadn't overpaid Zeke and Dlaw, they'd be in a better position now.

NE showed how to control the salary cap and still win, more teams need to get the message, including the Cowboys.

 

[armadillooutlaw]

So do I plymker. I also wish that the Cowboys would follow the example set by the Patriots and learn to manage the salary cap instead of shooting themselves in the foot by overpaying players. If they hadn't overpaid Zeke and Dlaw, they'd be in a better position now.

NE showed how to control the salary cap and still win, more teams need to get the message, including the Cowboys.

NE understands that at most positions, cheap B+ player + significant cap space saved is MUCH better for the team than A- player on a huge contract.
An obvious exception to this, IMO, is kicker, since they never make too much, and a good one is so hard to find.

 

[kskboys]

Yes, it was fair, not team friendly. It's just what market value was at the time.
Still not a bad offer, IMO.

People are talking about "market value" as if it has to be the highest. That's not "market value". 33 mil/season is easily w/i the bounds of "market value".

 

[kskboys]

NE understands that at most positions, cheap B+ player + significant cap space saved is MUCH better for the team than A- player on a huge contract.
An obvious exception to this, IMO, is kicker, since they never make too much, and a good one is so hard to find.

Yup. And the problem is, DLaw is more of a B player.

 

[armadillooutlaw]

Yup. And the problem is, DLaw is more of a B player.

Honestly with the money from his contract they could have paid a couple of B level DEs along the lines of a Jabaal Sheard type from a few years back and had a better rotation at the position.

 

[kskboys]

Honestly with the money from his contract they could have paid a couple of B level DEs along the lines of a Jabaal Sheard type from a few years back and had a better rotation at the position.

Sheard is as good as DLaw.

I would never have extended DLaw w/ him refusing to have surgery. When a team starts bowing to players' demands in a blackmail setting, they are setting a terrible precedent. Both DLaw and EZ should've been told to get in camp and we'll talk. DLaw should've been told that a new contract would only be discussed after the surgery.

 

[armadillooutlaw]

People are talking about "market value" as if it has to be the highest. That's not "market value". 33 mil/season is easily w/i the bounds of "market value".

Oh, it most certainly DOES NOT have to be the highest.
He's about a top 10-12-ish good- not great QB that shouldn't be the highest paid QB.
33 mil/year would make him the fifth-highest paid QB ahead of Wentz, just below Goff.
That's more than fair, IMO.

 

[armadillooutlaw]

Sheard is as good as DLaw.

I would never have extended DLaw w/ him refusing to have surgery. When a team starts bowing to players' demands in a blackmail setting, they are setting a terrible precedent. Both DLaw and EZ should've been told to get in camp and we'll talk. DLaw should've been told that a new contract would only be discussed after the surgery.

It shows the front office has no backbone, and is subservient to the players.
Nowhere in business is there a healthy company where the employees lord over their bosses.
Nor where an established order of respect is lacking.

 

[Adreme]

Yeah, we already agreed to that, so you can stop repeating yourself.

So, you'd rather Dak get paid 40 mil/season and lose than Dak get paid 30 mil/season and win. Why is what Dak makes more important to you than the Cowboys winning? I find this very strange.

First, I am not begrudging him wanting every cent he can get. It doesn't bother me, more than anyone else in any other field wanting the same.

Second, I think thats a false choice. I do not believe that extra money is the difference between winning and losing. The difference between winning and losing is and always will be the draft. The problem is that having a good QB typically makes you draft lower making it harder to get those game-changing picks one needs to contend.

 

[Buzzbait]

Treating a guy with a net worth of $2 million dollars as if he is in the same situation as a guy with a net worth of $120 million is a bogus position to take. They are not in the same situations. If Dak were 42 years old with a net worth of $120 million and was certain to make the Hall of Fame his attitude would be different than it is today.

The Cowboys already offered him $33 mil yr. and $105 mil guaranteed for what, 4 years?
If Brees is worth 120 mil at age 42, what's wrong with guaranteeing Dak 105 mil by the age of 30? How old is Dak, 26? That sounds like a perfectly reasonable offer by the Cowboys and Dak is turning up his nose at it!
Apparently greed knows no limits.

Do you REALLY feel that $105 mil guaranteed is an unreasonable offer? Is there ANY amount high enough that you guys would not still argue about it??

 

[armadillooutlaw]

The Cowboys already offered him $33 mil yr. and $105 mil guaranteed for what, 4 years?
If Brees is 42 and worth 120 mil, the Cowboys offered to guarantee Dak 105 mil by the time he's 30? So what's the problem? How old is Dak, 26? Not sure about the age, but that sounds like a perfectly reasonable offer by the Cowboys and Dak is turning up his nose at it!
Apparently greed knows no limits.

Do you REALLY feel that $105 mil guaranteed is an unreasonable offer? Is there ANY amount high enough that you guys would not still argue about it??

If his balk it the guaranteed money, then just up it to $111 mil and he'll be a tick above what Goff and Wentz got.
That's honestly a very good deal for him and more than fair.

 

[blueblood70]

what over 19 years thats about

Bread has made 237 million
Those team friendly contracts he’s taken

13mil a season. A STEAL FOR A HOF SB WINNER..

DAK NAH NOT SO MUCH..

 

[Aviano90]

To be clear, I don't consider the 33 mil/season he was offered "team friendly." I consider that a fair offer. Why would anyone call that anything else?

Yeah, it was a good offer. I still don’t blame him for playing hardball.

 

[Ranched]

Of course he is willing.

I'm willing too. You?!

 

[jaythecowboy]

To be clear, I don't consider the 33 mil/season he was offered "team friendly." I consider that a fair offer. Why would anyone call that anything else?

The issue is the years. Only three of six years guaranteed is definitely team friendly . By year six , qbs would be making $60 million probably.

 

[conner01]

what over 19 years thats about

13mil a season. A STEAL FOR A HOF SB WINNER..

DAK NAH NOT SO MUCH..

Salaries don’t work that way
He’s been in the top paid QB most of his career and since he was drafted higher with no rookie cap his rookie contract was pretty good
The point is a guy on his 4th or so contract taking a team friendly deal is not the same as a guy on his first negotiated contract and Brees didn’t take a team friendly deal on his first contract either