Video: Chris Simms: Dak is not Top 5

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I don't agree with either of them naming their Top 5:

Mahomes
Wilson
Jackson
Rodgers
Watson

Why are they their Top 5??? Based on what? Dak beats them with "tight window throws" most of the time, beats them with accuracy % on mid-to-deep throws, and beats most of them with QBR.

So why isn't Dak easily in their Top 5?

It's clear these men (and those who agree with them) are agreeing with their Top 5 (Mahomes, Wilson, Jackson, Rodgers and Watson) based on their personal preference instead of accumulated stats over recent years. It's all personal bunk, and I have no care for these so called "experts'" clearly "biased" opinions.
You seem to rely too much on stats. Would you be able to evaluate a player just by watching him play, without looking at stats?
 

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It's the same thing with OU ruling the Big 12, that recruiting program is so strong.

I remember watching a Bama-Miss St game when Prescott was playing and they were both ranked in the top 5. The announcers pointed out two players on the Miss ST sideline and remarked those are the only two 4-5 Star recruits on the Miss St roster. By contrast, Bama has only two players on the roster that are not at least 4 Star recruits. They didn't pick them out but the contrast and coaching comparisons weren't really fair but I will say that Saban did turn that program, just as Dabo has following the Bama blueprint.

Riley inherited a great recruiting program and has exploited that really well. Two years ago in the Bedlam game, the announcers pointed out that OSU was over 50% OK recruits while OU had one player recruited from the home state.

Yeah, OU has done a great job in the Big 12 for several years now. In fact, they kinda started rolling when Mack Brown left the Big 12. How interesting that UNC is now enjoying it's best football recruiting class, maybe ever, now that Mack has come back to the Heels......... Funny how that works right?
 

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For someone that has just one question to ask, you sure do ramble on and on and on and on. :rolleyes:

Your "one question" has a false premise. Dak's won 40 games in four seasons. Do you really think he had his full complement of weapons for 40 games the past 4 years? There are plenty of examples of games he won without all his weapons available.

As for the rest of your post... you lost me after your BS "one question". :facepalm:

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Give me one example. Also dak was won 27 games in the last 3 years. 9 a year. 9-7..... Not exactly top 10 material.
 

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I dont like Dak... but still this comment comming from a total Failure of a QB makes it hilarious!
What a complete looser this simms dude is
 

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Absolutely, Plus, Dak has proven he has "the ability to win, lead the team, and lift others up".
Maybe my definition of winning and yours are different, but my definition of winning is making deep playoff runs and even getting in a Super Bowl. Dak has not shown this ability yet.
 

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There is a table floating around with the cap percentage hits for all the superbowl winning QB's. Everyone has seen it. No one has won with a salary like is being discussed for Dak. History says you don't win with non top 5 QB's making top money. I don't think it has happened once.

As far as cap now, Dallas has gaping holes on defense. Despite that, they let Quinn and Jones go and really didn't go after anyone of note. Dak supporters have been more than happy to point out how bad the defense is to deflect blame but when the #don'tpaydak crowd talks about having money to fix it, Dak people don't want to hear about it.

The cap going forward issue gets into economics and covid19. That's not a topic worth delving into.

I admire your "Devil May Care" approach here. I really do but I fear that the logical rational will fall on def ears. Also, you are going to have a huge lump on your forehead after this post, I'm affraid.
 

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Give me one example. Also dak was won 27 games in the last 3 years. 9 a year. 9-7..... Not exactly top 10 material.
You ignore what you need to fit your narrative.... President Lincoln had a nice night at the theater except for getting shot in the head.

If you want to talk about Dak's record then stop cherry-picking it to fit your wack agenda. The man has played 4 full seasons with 40 wins. That's just a hard fact that you can not deny.

40 wins, take your pick to show he can win without all his weapons there.
 

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QBs who have played in the NFL I will listen to.

Reporters who just collect info from people like fans or other writers looking for writing material just are not good enough.

I once had a good friend who we would meet each other and we would meet at the gym and do a circuit of machines, shower and hit the pool.

He did a radio talk show in the afternoon. He would sit bu the pool with a bunch or newspapers and circle stories to discuss live on his live talk show.

So he would take calls about his daily topics and chat and exchange.

Bottom line was, while not an expert he was definitely a source.

So like Simms and others in the football mainstream..you just have to filter.

As far as Dak is concerned, they probably have Dak spotted correctly as a Top 10 guy.

But the problem is, in order to pay him..how do you factor in the talent around him and how to you arrive at a net worth.?

This is the problem. I spent time in my careers being a Real Estate Broker. To sell a house, you have a very mathematical process to arrive at a selling price.

You look at 6 comparables in the last 6 months and see what they sold for. Then you add or subtract values for pool or no pool, 2 car garage vs. 3 car garage etc.

Finally you arrive at your asking price.

Lastly, you market and see what offers come in. You have a starting point.

The market has been set already..Wilson, Wentz, etc.

Dak wanting to buck that is fine but it takes buyer and seller to agree.

Tricky tricky.

It's interesting, fans who support the idea of breaking the bank with Dak will use stats and analytics to try and support their position, which I understand. However, the acknowledge source for these is PFF I believe. Yet, when you ask PFF about Dak, they specifically tell you that the stats and analytics don't tell the whole story. Basically, he's not as good as his numbers. So it's interesting that these stats are so heavily relied upon but the actual opinion of the group who does the work to put all this info together is not paid attention to. Crazy right?
 

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Nice job deflecting @CATCH17 post. You know what he meant by saying Dak's subpar performances against good teams.
How about mind your business I know exactly what I'm doing and its not deflecting. You guys jump in on debate and discussions and don't know what you're talking about.
 

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You ignore what you need to fit your narrative.... President Lincoln had a nice night at the theater except for getting shot in the head.

If you want to talk about Dak's record then stop cherry-picking it to fit your wack agenda. The man has played 4 full seasons with 40 wins. That's just a hard fact that you can not deny.

40 wins, take your pick to show he can win without all his weapons there.

LOL. I really don't care what happened 4 years ago. If we care what happened 4 years ago we should bring Peyton Manning out of retirement. The last 3 years have been very average....Which is weird.... because everyone says Dallas is loaded with talent especially on the Offensive side of the ball.

And truthfully winning 10 games a year is not what I want. That means half the time you don't make the playoffs and it also means you probably never win a SB.

My whole point is Dak has not shown he can win anything unless all his weapons are in place. You have done nothing to say otherwise. I am still waiting on a good example. You are the one ignoring.

I really only care about the last year. I don't even care what Dak did 2 years ago. Last year Dak led the team to a very average 8-8 record.
 

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Dak is better than Watson. And he's better than Jackson too who's gonna dip next year. Dak would've won a Super Bowl with that Baltimore team.

The only 6 guys I'd put above Dak is Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Mahomes, Wilson, and Ben.
You are wrong on so many levels, ive never placed anyone on ignore, but your lack of talent evaluation might make you the first.
Better than even Jackson... you have no understanding of basic talent, much less top end talent.
 

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How about mind your business I know exactly what I'm doing and its not deflecting. You guys jump in on debate and discussions and don't know what you're talking about.
If getting called out on a take strikes a nerve, maybe you need to take a break from here.
 

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If getting called out on a take strikes a nerve, maybe you need to take a break from here.
IT didn't strike a nerve but it is annoying when you are debating with someone and you jump into the middle of the discussion misinformed. If I didn't agree with what he said that doesn't mean I'm "deflecting" is all I'm saying.
 
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