CowboysZone Movie Genre Tournament Feedback Thread (Winner Post 342)

[cowboyec]

Gee, who could have seen that coming?

i know....you thought it'd be something like...GREATEST CRYPTIDS OF ALL-TIME.

 

[DallasEast]

Gee, who could have seen that coming?

"I soiled by armor I was so scared!"

~Witnesses rabbit attack~

"I've done it again!"

 

[quickccc]

Maybe your dislike of Brie Larson in the role has something to do with your expectations after reading the comics. I knew very little about Captain Marvel until the movie, and I liked her a lot.

i didn't like Brie Laurson for that role because i found her flat, uninspiring and emotional-less facial impression, and i just couldn't connect with her. And like i reinterated with @DallasEast ; i think the box office success that marvel had clearly had, pretty much was due to with it's " promotion " and "advertising" in related connection with the monsterous successful Avengers Infinity,..

And actually Carol Danvers (Brie Laurson) had her own Kree comics as Ms Marvel.
Before the studios decided to mesh it as Captain Marvel.

This is a review i did on another forum that signifies my impression of Brie Laurson and Capt. Marvel movie;

- What I got out of Captain Marvel film was that it was an OK to above average superhero film, but given the incredible hype over this hero movie, and even with it's astounding box office number success, I admit that i just wasn’t wow impressed by it at all. it really didn’t meet my expectations. It’s actually very forgettable once I’ve left the movie theater after seeing it.

- i didn't find it to be a signature icon Marvel classic stand out like Avengers, Black Panther, Iron Man, Guardian-Galaxy, Thor Ragnornak or the first two Sam Raimi spider man films, It doesn’t even come close to comparing to Wonder Woman, imo.
- I did like the very brief memorial thank you tribute salute clip to the legendary late Stan Lee right before the beginning of the film, and ironically this will be the film where Marvel Icon creator Stan Lee make his final cameo appearance in Marvel hero films before his death.

– the action sequences and pace of the film is constant, ….whether on Earth grounds, in the skies, in space, etc. But the flip side of that is while it did have a lot of action – that action wasn't really anything “ wow - Great” type action and stunts. Its rather ordinary. There's not a scene like Iron man 3 where a hero somehow manages to save 13 fallen passengers from a failing plane. or a spidey somehow stopping a streaking runaway train, etc.

- And the CGI special effects were rather ordinary, not breathtaking , ditto for the stunts and chases. Frankly it more resembled a SY-FY movie.
In fact there were times when i couldn't gather what was happening in the scenes that were in darkness, either inside the space ships or in space atmosphere as well.

- I think some may find the very few humor side much more than I did, ...and sorry but I thought the alien cat “ Goose” was silly, cheesy, and unnecessary, I thought the bigger part of humor, (if any) , ..came more from Nick Fury than the Goose-cat.

- I did liked the de-aging special effect they did on SHIELD Agent commander Nick Fury to make him look younger. And I thought Fury had much more screen time in this superhero film since Winter Soldier film.
- And I was oh so surprised (and disappointed) in the way it was displayed how Nick Fury lost his eye.

- I did like the retro homage being paid to 90’s era setting, with various hit songs from the 90’s, the Nine inch Nail signature shirt and historical stores such as Blockbuster, RadioShack. That’s when I thought Capt. Marvel directors likely took a page out of Guardian/Galaxy and Thor Ragnoarok ideal of bringing up retro hit music of the past.

- Other than the twist of Skrulls citizens being more the victims than portrayed as wicked bullies in comic, I really was not in awed with the story plot and writing, which I thought was so ordinary and unimaginative. the way it was portrayed with the major twist between conflict of Krees vs Skrulls

- I had to try to keep up with the whole amnesia bit with Carol Danvers. didn’t make it that intriguing.

- Speaking of Danvers ,..sorry but I just wasn’t that in awed and impressed with Brie Larson’ character role at all, whereas I thought she was flat and didn’t appear to have screen presence.
I just didn’t see anything unique or distinguished that made Brie Larson Marvel role stand out that made me think differently. I tend to believe she was miscast for this role.

She’s just another acting face. And this is supposed to be a stapled signature figure hero that is supposed to follow the path of past lead's like Robert Downey Jr.s Tony Stark, Chris Evans Capt America,or Chadwick Boseman's Black Panther ?
i found Brie Lauson to be somewhat flat, boring and bland.

It’s such a clear distance day and night difference between Gal Godot’s Wonder Woman role vs Bries’ Marvel.
- They seemed to make Capt. Marvel very overpowering in terms of how she easily physically beats her opponents. But unlike most of Marvel hero films, they didn’t set it up to where she was clumsily learning with her newfound power. Just out of control . I’m not sure I got an explanatory idea of how her powers and potential, at the “ Binary “ level .

- Another area I thought was ordinary was the villain Yon Rogg (portrayed by Jude Law) he wasn’t a memorable standout – he didn’t bring anything unique to the fray. He’s not at all a Loki, Magneto or Kill Monger. Not impressive and very forgettable. I wish they could have created a far more intriguing villain.
- The look of the Supreme Intelligence (portrayed byAnnette Benning) from the comics had been changed to the live action film, and now given now a human form being instead of an alien astral looking form in the comics, I had no problem with this.

- But frankly I had said that when I saw trailers for Capt. Marvel , I’ve always thought of it as resembling
WB’s “Super Girl’ … and oddly after seeing the entire Capt. Marvel,
…. I still got the feeling that I’ve watched more of a WB's "Super Girl "type movie … LOL

And they also brought nothing in terms of displaying an impressive cinematography of space or skies from which is the surfing atmosphere of Capt Marvel, i thought the plot and story write was just bland. Unless there’s a vast change in directors and writers and stronger character development, I am not looking forward to a sequel to Capt. Marvel.

- With its record setting huge box office numbers, I tend to wonder how many people wanted to see this movie for the sake of loving Marvel superhero movies , and how many wanted to see it since it was rumored to being very connected to Avengers End game. I didn’t think it was that much or important enough of a build up to the incoming Avengers End game.

On a scale of 1 to 10, I’d give Captain Marvel a 6.0

 

[DallasEast]

idea for what would be the SINGLE GREATEST TOURNAMENT....
EVER
(inarguable when surrounded by rotating star)

A tournament...bracket style....to determine Elvis' GREATEST song.
4 regions:
•rock n roll
•country
•gospel
•love songs
or
•50's
•60's
•70's
•best of the rest

GREATEST.
TOURNEY.
EVER
ELVIS

That idea may be a bit TOO specific. I think we should consider tournaments that are little more broad in scope, with topics having more inclusive subject matter.

This may come as a shock. You may want to sit down for this. It is crazy to think it is true but <whispers> everyone does not think highly of Elvis Presley music.

 

[quickccc]

I love My Cousin Vinny, but The Holy Grail is tops. I can't think of a more quoted movie still, after 45 years!

Agree that Braveheart should be way ahead of Die Hard.

The Matrix is sci-fi, not horror.

Indiana Jones movies were listed, but where I listed Raiders of the Lost Ark, someone else listed one of the other movies, I think. So that right there gets half as many possible votes.

it's a domino effect, .. now if you're gonna put up Brave Heart vs Die Hard, ..then how does Braveheart goes up against Russell Crowe's Gladiator ?

Also i can see where one poster suggest Genres probably should be narrowed to it's decades; all the best, notable action flicks movies vs movies in the 70's.... in the 80's... 90's 2000,
Such as a sci-fi 70's movie vs a sci-fi 2000 movie.

 

[cowboyec]

That idea may be a bit TOO specific. I think we should consider tournaments that are little more broad in scope, with topics having more inclusive subject matter.

This may come as a shock. You may want to sit down for this. It is crazy to think it is true but <whispers> everyone does not think highly of Elvis Presley music.

ok...ok

 

[cowboyec]

That idea may be a bit TOO specific. I think we should consider tournaments that are little more broad in scope, with topics having more inclusive subject matter.

This may come as a shock. You may want to sit down for this. It is crazy to think it is true but <whispers> everyone does not think highly of Elvis Presley music.

 

[Runwildboys]

That idea may be a bit TOO specific. I think we should consider tournaments that are little more broad in scope, with topics having more inclusive subject matter.

This may come as a shock. You may want to sit down for this. It is crazy to think it is true but <whispers> everyone does not think highly of Elvis Presley music.

I like Elvis, but I'm not obsessed.

 

[Runwildboys]

it's a domino effect, .. now if you're gonna put up Brave Heart vs Die Hard, ..then how does Braveheart goes up against Russell Crowe's Gladiator ?

Also i can see where one poster suggest Genres probably should be narrowed to it's decades; all the best, notable action flicks movies vs movies in the 70's.... in the 80's... 90's 2000,
Such as a sci-fi 70's movie vs a sci-fi 2000 movie.

Braveheart vs. Gladiator isn't even a contest for me. Braveheart is, IMO, the best movie out there. The MCU movies come close, but Gladiator probably wouldn't even end up in my top 100.

 

[cowfan]

I think there need to be an immediate revote. Were the ballots mail-in. I'm seeing corruptions from the Tommy Boy fans. I think the Clint Eastwood fans have to much power and stuffed the ballot boxes. How can you have a western category and not include a John Wayne movie. How can the comedy category go without Eddie Murphy or Richard Pryor?

 

[Tabascocat]

I think there need to be an immediate revote. Were the ballots mail-in. I'm seeing corruptions from the Tommy Boy fans. I think the Clint Eastwood fans have to much power and stuffed the ballot boxes. How can you have a western category and not include a John Wayne movie. How can the comedy category go without Eddie Murphy or Richard Pryor?

JW might be too far back to really get the votes, but the comedy genre is bad. No Murphy, Candy, Martin, Sammy Davis Jr, just to name a few. I can name 20 comedies better than the final four of them. Hot Tub Time Machine anyone???

 

[Stash]

yes.
david lee is probably my favorite.
really nice guy...i've gotten to know him.
he's from alabama...big Elvis fan.
we brought him here to okc to perform for my wife's b-day party.
he really gets the audience involved.
does viva las vegas and makes everyone get in a conga line.
tim 'e' hendry is also really good.
dwight icenhower does a great tribute.
those are the best i've seen in person.

bill cherry,dean z and shawn klush are 3 that i'd really like to see.

all of them are really big Elvis fans...so i respect what they're doin'.
they do great tributes and put on excellent shows.

Nice to see you mention Shawn Klush. He’s the reason I asked. He’s my wife’s cousin and a HUGE Cowboys fan. He and I went to Tampa several years back to see a Cowboys/Bucs game in December of that year.

 

[Runwildboys]

I think there need to be an immediate revote. Were the ballots mail-in. I'm seeing corruptions from the Tommy Boy fans. I think the Clint Eastwood fans have to much power and stuffed the ballot boxes. How can you have a western category and not include a John Wayne movie. How can the comedy category go without Eddie Murphy or Richard Pryor?

Did you have any of them on your list? I had The Cowboys and the original True Grit on my list, so don't blame me for that!

I'm not sure what you mean by "corruptions from the Tommy Boy fans".

 

[DallasEast]

I think there need to be an immediate revote. Were the ballots mail-in. I'm seeing corruptions from the Tommy Boy fans. I think the Clint Eastwood fans have to much power and stuffed the ballot boxes. How can you have a western category and not include a John Wayne movie. How can the comedy category go without Eddie Murphy or Richard Pryor?

For what it is worth, cowfan and I have been friends for decades in real life. We butt heads about every imaginable topic ALL the time. Y'all would love him if I could only get him to post more. He has a really good sense of humor drowned by heavy doses of sarcasm.

 

[DallasEast]

i didn't like Brie Laurson for that role because i found her flat, uninspiring and emotional-less facial impression, and i just couldn't connect with her. And like i reinterated with @DallasEast ; i think the box office success that marvel had clearly had, pretty much was due to with it's " promotion " and "advertising" in related connection with the monsterous successful Avengers Infinity,..

And actually Carol Danvers (Brie Laurson) had her own Kree comics as Ms Marvel.
Before the studios decided to mesh it as Captain Marvel.

This is a review i did on another forum that signifies my impression of Brie Laurson and Capt. Marvel movie;

- What I got out of Captain Marvel film was that it was an OK to above average superhero film, but given the incredible hype over this hero movie, and even with it's astounding box office number success, I admit that i just wasn’t wow impressed by it at all. it really didn’t meet my expectations. It’s actually very forgettable once I’ve left the movie theater after seeing it.

- i didn't find it to be a signature icon Marvel classic stand out like Avengers, Black Panther, Iron Man, Guardian-Galaxy, Thor Ragnornak or the first two Sam Raimi spider man films, It doesn’t even come close to comparing to Wonder Woman, imo.
- I did like the very brief memorial thank you tribute salute clip to the legendary late Stan Lee right before the beginning of the film, and ironically this will be the film where Marvel Icon creator Stan Lee make his final cameo appearance in Marvel hero films before his death.

– the action sequences and pace of the film is constant, ….whether on Earth grounds, in the skies, in space, etc. But the flip side of that is while it did have a lot of action – that action wasn't really anything “ wow - Great” type action and stunts. Its rather ordinary. There's not a scene like Iron man 3 where a hero somehow manages to save 13 fallen passengers from a failing plane. or a spidey somehow stopping a streaking runaway train, etc.

- And the CGI special effects were rather ordinary, not breathtaking , ditto for the stunts and chases. Frankly it more resembled a SY-FY movie.
In fact there were times when i couldn't gather what was happening in the scenes that were in darkness, either inside the space ships or in space atmosphere as well.

- I think some may find the very few humor side much more than I did, ...and sorry but I thought the alien cat “ Goose” was silly, cheesy, and unnecessary, I thought the bigger part of humor, (if any) , ..came more from Nick Fury than the Goose-cat.

- I did liked the de-aging special effect they did on SHIELD Agent commander Nick Fury to make him look younger. And I thought Fury had much more screen time in this superhero film since Winter Soldier film.
- And I was oh so surprised (and disappointed) in the way it was displayed how Nick Fury lost his eye.

- I did like the retro homage being paid to 90’s era setting, with various hit songs from the 90’s, the Nine inch Nail signature shirt and historical stores such as Blockbuster, RadioShack. That’s when I thought Capt. Marvel directors likely took a page out of Guardian/Galaxy and Thor Ragnoarok ideal of bringing up retro hit music of the past.

- Other than the twist of Skrulls citizens being more the victims than portrayed as wicked bullies in comic, I really was not in awed with the story plot and writing, which I thought was so ordinary and unimaginative. the way it was portrayed with the major twist between conflict of Krees vs Skrulls

- I had to try to keep up with the whole amnesia bit with Carol Danvers. didn’t make it that intriguing.

- Speaking of Danvers ,..sorry but I just wasn’t that in awed and impressed with Brie Larson’ character role at all, whereas I thought she was flat and didn’t appear to have screen presence.
I just didn’t see anything unique or distinguished that made Brie Larson Marvel role stand out that made me think differently. I tend to believe she was miscast for this role.

She’s just another acting face. And this is supposed to be a stapled signature figure hero that is supposed to follow the path of past lead's like Robert Downey Jr.s Tony Stark, Chris Evans Capt America,or Chadwick Boseman's Black Panther ?
i found Brie Lauson to be somewhat flat, boring and bland.

It’s such a clear distance day and night difference between Gal Godot’s Wonder Woman role vs Bries’ Marvel.
- They seemed to make Capt. Marvel very overpowering in terms of how she easily physically beats her opponents. But unlike most of Marvel hero films, they didn’t set it up to where she was clumsily learning with her newfound power. Just out of control . I’m not sure I got an explanatory idea of how her powers and potential, at the “ Binary “ level .

- Another area I thought was ordinary was the villain Yon Rogg (portrayed by Jude Law) he wasn’t a memorable standout – he didn’t bring anything unique to the fray. He’s not at all a Loki, Magneto or Kill Monger. Not impressive and very forgettable. I wish they could have created a far more intriguing villain.
- The look of the Supreme Intelligence (portrayed byAnnette Benning) from the comics had been changed to the live action film, and now given now a human form being instead of an alien astral looking form in the comics, I had no problem with this.

- But frankly I had said that when I saw trailers for Capt. Marvel , I’ve always thought of it as resembling
WB’s “Super Girl’ … and oddly after seeing the entire Capt. Marvel,
…. I still got the feeling that I’ve watched more of a WB's "Super Girl "type movie … LOL

And they also brought nothing in terms of displaying an impressive cinematography of space or skies from which is the surfing atmosphere of Capt Marvel, i thought the plot and story write was just bland. Unless there’s a vast change in directors and writers and stronger character development, I am not looking forward to a sequel to Capt. Marvel.

- With its record setting huge box office numbers, I tend to wonder how many people wanted to see this movie for the sake of loving Marvel superhero movies , and how many wanted to see it since it was rumored to being very connected to Avengers End game. I didn’t think it was that much or important enough of a build up to the incoming Avengers End game.

On a scale of 1 to 10, I’d give Captain Marvel a 6.0

Good write-up. I only had two comments:

think the box office success that marvel had clearly had, pretty much was due to with it's " promotion " and "advertising" in related connection with the monsterous successful Avengers Infinity,..

Snippet from Forbes article

https://www.forbes.com/sites/markhu...billion-at-worldwide-box-office/#5c7d53974d5d

March 14, 2019 - With its first week of global release coming to an end, Marvel Studios' Captain Marvel is already the highest-grossing film of 2019 at the domestic box office, and is the second-highest grossing film internationally, behind The Wandering Earth. But Captain Marvel will take the top spot on foreign charts as well in the next few days, as it continues riding high on a wave of overwhelmingly positive word of mouth and repeat business toward a likely $750-775 million total this weekend. All signs now suggest the superhero origin film will fly past $1 billion at the worldwide box office by the end of its run.

No doubt, promotion and advertising connected with Avengers: Infinity War carried over to the opening success of Captain Marvel. However, I also think the movie was sustained in its theatrical run by the 'overwhelmingly positive word of mouth and repeat business' describe by the article's author.

I agree with him because I have seen movies open like blockbusters due to pre-hype and quickly tank. That did not happen with Captain Marvel, perhaps because a significant number of paying moviegoers actually enjoyed the movie.

Just my two cents.

And actually Carol Danvers (Brie Laurson) had her own Kree comics as Ms Marvel.
Before the studios decided to mesh it as Captain Marvel.

https://www.marvel.com/characters/captain-marvel-carol-danvers/in-comics

To add more context to her original Marvel Comics origin, Danvers received her powers from the publisher's original Kree Mar-vell or Captain Marvel title back in November 1969. Here is Ms. Marvel's origin story as shown in Marvell's title:

It would be almost eight years later in Jan 1977 before Marvel Comics released her own title. Here she is in her original Ms. Marvel uniform:

Marvel Comics reinvented many of its titles and characters through the years. While that was true of Danvers also, the publisher had allowed their original male character to die and fade away due to the long-going fight naming copyright with DC Comics. And died he did, literally. Marvel Comics gave him terminal cancer.

The studio's transitioning of the character was expected. There was too much baggage alone with the Ms. Marvel backstory, much less even considering (which I totally doubt) how the character got her powers decades ago.

The studio's newer version is old and fresh. 'Old' in the sense Larson had amnesia forced upon her by the Kree in the movie. Back in the 70's title, Danvers started out with amnesia and split personality, switching back-and-forth from former security officer to superhero without being consciously aware. 'Fresh' in the sense Danvers was not gifted with her powers from another extremely powerful superhero but from an Infinity Stone's energy, which tied seamlessly into the MCU's Thanos storyline.

 

[cowboyec]

I like Elvis, but I'm not obsessed.

passionate.

 

[cowboyec]

Nice to see you mention Shawn Klush. He’s the reason I asked. He’s my wife’s cousin and a HUGE Cowboys fan. He and I went to Tampa several years back to see a Cowboys/Bucs game in December of that year.

he does a TREMENDOUS tribute.
i hope to see him.

 

[cowboyec]

I think there need to be an immediate revote. Were the ballots mail-in. I'm seeing corruptions from the Tommy Boy fans. I think the Clint Eastwood fans have to much power and stuffed the ballot boxes. How can you have a western category and not include a John Wayne movie. How can the comedy category go without Eddie Murphy or Richard Pryor?

i had both rio bravo and the searchers in my 32.
did you submit a list?

 

[cowfan]

Did you have any of them on your list? I had The Cowboys and the original True Grit on my list, so don't blame me for that!

I'm not sure what you mean by "corruptions from the Tommy Boy fans".

Tommy Boy was an okay movie. It shouldn't be on any best list. There are so many better movies. Coming to America, The Wateboy, The Nutty Professor and many more.

 

[cowfan]

i had both rio bravo and the searchers in my 32.
did you submit a list?

I didn't submit a list. I just saw it today. The Searchers and Rio Bravo are two of my favorite westerns.