The new “blah, blah, blah” voice of this team

[Bobhaze]

Dak has had issues against teams with a winning record. Look at 2017, 2018 and 2019 he doesn't have that "IT" factor. He doesn't have the ability to raise his game to the next level. The ONLY reason he threw for 4900 - plus yards is because teams GAVE HIM those yards. Teams get a lead, load the box and play off receivers & TEs basically saying....DAK BEAT UP WITH YOUR ARM and he can't. I stand firm that JJ & Co have been doing a pretty dam good job loading this team up with players.

Ok...but what good is it to “load up this team with players” if they don’t win anything in the playoffs? As a fan I’m not impressed with how much Jerry is worth financially. Show me some playoff wins.

 

[kskboys]

Dak has had issues against teams with a winning record. Look at 2017, 2018 and 2019 he doesn't have that "IT" factor. He doesn't have the ability to raise his game to the next level. The ONLY reason he threw for 4900 - plus yards is because teams GAVE HIM those yards. Teams get a lead, load the box and play off receivers & TEs basically saying....DAK BEAT UP WITH YOUR ARM and he can't. I stand firm that JJ & Co have been doing a pretty dam good job loading this team up with players.

And leaving holes that derail us every year in the playoffs. Yeah, great job loading up.

 

[MyFairLady]

What you have to understand is the team is being run and is performing exactly according to plan. Stephen and Jerruh could not be happier. Everyone is talking about all our big stars. We are the cock of the walk baby. If your goal is to win championships you need to look elswhere.

 

[kskboys]

What you have to understand is the team is being run and is performing exactly according to plan. Stephen and Jerruh could not be happier. Everyone is talking about all our big stars. We are the cock of the walk baby. If your goal is to win championships you need to look elswhere.

Safety? What be this Safety thing yee speak of?

 

[Bullflop]

What amazed me when I read all these Stephen comments, was how much they sounded like stuff Jerry says.

It's amazes me, too, that Stephen doesn't learn from Jerry's mistakes. So many people around the league laugh at Jerry's antics and propensity to be a blowhard who lives and breathes to bask in the limelight.

Seems like perhaps Stephen might take notice of the ridicule and choose to act somewhat differently. Instead, we ended up with a clone of Jerry's lame leanings to being a hapless blabbermouth. Sometimes, it's entirely possible to say much too much, if only to clumsily invite controversy, problems and ridicule. It's just an unfortunate Jones oddity, I suppose.

 

[CouchCoach]

Dak has had issues against teams with a winning record. Look at 2017, 2018 and 2019 he doesn't have that "IT" factor. He doesn't have the ability to raise his game to the next level. The ONLY reason he threw for 4900 - plus yards is because teams GAVE HIM those yards. Teams get a lead, load the box and play off receivers & TEs basically saying....DAK BEAT UP WITH YOUR ARM and he can't. I stand firm that JJ & Co have been doing a pretty dam good job loading this team up with players.

You must be a fan of offense because they have failed to build this D, including coaching.

Team has the #1 O and #2 pass O and is 8-8, I'd say you are a little forgiving of JJ & Co. Just like the owner is of the GM.

 

[Bullflop]

You must be a fan of offense because they have failed to build this D, including coaching.

Team has the #1 O and #2 pass O and is 8-8, I'd say you are a little forgiving of JJ & Co. Just like the owner is of the GM.

Amen -- I've thought about this a lot for a long time now. Hopefully, when the next offseason arrives, defense must again be serviced!

One rating lately that had our defense rated a mediocre #16, despite the draft and the off-season's vet additions. There's yet work to do!

 

[Bobhaze]

It's amazes me, too, that Stephen doesn't learn from Jerry's mistakes. So many people around the league laugh at Jerry's antics and propensity to be a blowhard who lives and breathes to bask in the limelight.

Seems like perhaps Stephen might take notice of the ridicule and choose to act somewhat differently. Instead, we ended up with a clone of Jerry's lame leanings to being a hapless blabbermouth. Sometimes, it's entirely possible to say much too much, if only to clumsily invite controversy, problems and ridicule. It's just an unfortunate Jones oddity, I suppose.

I would like to think SJ would look at the on-field results and realize the Jones FO is not getting it done. There’s not another organization in football that would allow these guys to keep their jobs year after year- two decades plus- without getting better results.

It’s pretty obvious to me they don’t want want to win bad enough. Do they want to win? Sure. Are they willing to do whatever it takes to win? Obviously not.

 

[Bullflop]

I would like to think SJ would look at the on-field results and realize the Jones FO is not getting it done. There’s not another organization in football that would allow these guys to keep their jobs year after year- two decades plus- without getting better results.

It’s pretty obvious to me they don’t want want to win bad enough. Do they want to win? Sure. Are they willing to do whatever it takes to win? Obviously not.

No doubt but what they've been too inefficient far too long in so many ways. We're just now getting better results in our vet FA offseason acquisitions. We lagged behind in that category for so many years and we're just now coming to grips with it. Once we've gotten that far behind, good luck catching up with the teams that have been doing it all along. Let's hope things are on the threshold of improving. It seems that's likely what we have to cling to.

 

[cern]

this is stephen's team now. all the remnants and vestiges of jerry are gone with the final outings of garrett and witten. now we can fairly judge stephen on his own merit. i see good things in the cowboys future with him at the helm. rudder amidship. flank speed. go navy. go cowboys.

 

[Bullflop]

this is stephen's team now. all the remnants and vestiges of jerry are gone with the final outings of garrett and witten. now we can fairly judge stephen on his own merit. i see good things in the cowboys future with him at the helm. rudder amidship. flank speed. go navy. go cowboys.

I haven't given up on things by any means -- we've gone through so many years of poor management under Jerry. I'm hoping Stephen finds some way to overcome the genes that Jerry awarded him. We'll be obliged to watch closely what Stephen does to affect change. Let's keep our fingers crossed. If son Stephen ever decides to hire a GM, I'm pretty sure it won't happen until Jerry is but a memory of our past or incapacitated. I've been a fan far too long to give up now!

 

[MyFairLady]

I love that people can still be positive about the state of the Cowboys even after the last 25 years.

 

[CouchCoach]

Hope springs eternal that the new boss won't be like the old boss with absolutely no evidence of that.

As long as winning without really winning on the field remains the norm, why change? It is a business first and foremost and a successful one so there's no need to really change.

Why do people in business make changes? Glad you asked. There are two prime motivations, the desire to gain or avoid pain and research tells us avoiding pain is the stronger motivator, especially if they're already in pain. Why do we think Booger has never really changed? Where's the pain? The only real pain he's had was being replaced for a short period of time as the face of the Cowboys. And who's face is the only one he's let share that now?

This never changes until someone is in charge that has to succeed, their job is dependent on the success on the field. I really don't think some consider just how important that stadium was to this business, it made them bulletproof. Think about it, the #1 attraction in all of pro sports and the highest valued one has done nothing, NOTHING, in 25 years and all that time it's just kept increasing in profit and value. You will not find anything in the business or sports world to match that.

The other fallacy is that the longer someone does something, the better they become at it. I can show you so many examples of this being not even remotely true and The Peter Principle wasn't fiction. Because you can buy something or be raised by someone who can doesn't assure them that they can run it. But they do run it, only it's not successful like most want here, where it really counts. That financial and exposure success is the enemy to success on the field.

Show me the reason for change and I will begin to buy into this belief the son will make it better. Where has he shown he's not at the same level of incompetency as his father? The Manziel pick? That's it?

There is a major difference between most of the posters here and myself in our belief about this team. I do not expect it to get much better but I have accepted what is and what will be and decided to stay on as a fan because of history and laundry. But I refuse to believe this is going to get better because of the the son because like the song says that I referenced in my first sentence, I won't get fooled again.

 

[Bullflop]

Hope springs eternal that the new boss won't be like the old boss with absolutely no evidence of that.

As long as winning without really winning on the field remains the norm, why change? It is a business first and foremost and a successful one so there's no need to really change.

Why do people in business make changes? Glad you asked. There are two prime motivations, the desire to gain or avoid pain and research tells us avoiding pain is the stronger motivator, especially if they're already in pain. Why do we think Booger has never really changed? Where's the pain? The only real pain he's had was being replaced for a short period of time as the face of the Cowboys. And who's face is the only one he's let share that now?

This never changes until someone is in charge that has to succeed, their job is dependent on the success on the field. I really don't think some consider just how important that stadium was to this business, it made them bulletproof. Think about it, the #1 attraction in all of pro sports and the highest valued one has done nothing, NOTHING, in 25 years and all that time it's just kept increasing in profit and value. You will not find anything in the business or sports world to match that.

The other fallacy is that the longer someone does something, the better they become at it. I can show you so many examples of this being not even remotely true and The Peter Principle wasn't fiction. Because you can buy something or be raised by someone who can doesn't assure them that they can run it. But they do run it, only it's not successful like most want here, where it really counts. That financial and exposure success is the enemy to success on the field.

Show me the reason for change and I will begin to buy into this belief the son will make it better. Where has he shown he's not at the same level of incompetency as his father? The Manziel pick? That's it?

There is a major difference between most of the posters here and myself in our belief about this team. I do not expect it to get much better but I have accepted what is and what will be and decided to stay on as a fan because of history and laundry. But I refuse to believe this is going to get better because of the the son because like the song says that I referenced in my first sentence, I won't get fooled again.

I respect your perspective, even though I'm unsure of what to expect in both the near and distant future. I'm determined to "go down with the ship," if that's what is necessary. That's regardless of what lies ahead. The schedule this year will be especially difficult for a team with a new staff and the conditions being what they are.

Not having a preseason and possibly a roster limited by several players that might easily be unexpectedly given to getting sick or injured is tough. I wouldn't be shocked, nor taken by surprise, if we lose as many games a we win this year. Hopefully, we won't be the only team that has to bear the consequences of these problems, though. It'll be testy, for sure.

In the last two decades, I've conditioned myself to be content with being entertained with my expectations held to being quite moderate. What else can any practical human do when the wins come with the difficulty that they have for over two decades now?

Still hope springs eternal, like you said. I'm optimistic by nature and I'm clinging to it with the same stubborn resolve that I've had for a very long time. Yet, it helps greatly to keep one's expectations well within reason. I'm hoping SJ overcomes having JJ's genes! That'd help for sure.

 

[Doomsday101]

I like getting any information I can, It does not bother me or phase me one bit that the owner of the team will speak to the media. For those who are, the easy solution turn the channel or stop reading it.

 

[kskboys]

I like getting any information I can, It does not bother me or phase me one bit that the owner of the team will speak to the media. For those who are, the easy solution turn the channel or stop reading it.

I seriously never listen to him. His voice and manner of speaking grate on my nerves. Not to mention that he never really says anything, just constant blather to hear himself speak.

 

[lwehlers]

What amazed me when I read all these Stephen comments, was how much they sounded like stuff Jerry says.

i have been waiting twenty five years for both of the a-holes to shut up. even with parcells they could not keep theremouths shut. i understand that they own the team but really the headcoach needs to be the voice of this team but it is just not the way of the cowboys. also stephen jones comments sound exactly like his old man. he learned from the master.

 

[Bobhaze]

I like getting any information I can, It does not bother me or phase me one bit that the owner of the team will speak to the media. For those who are, the easy solution turn the channel or stop reading it.

I like getting information from leaders who have credibility. Right now, Mike McCarthy has some credibility. I’m interested in what he has to say. On the other hand, the guys who have oversold what is going to happen yet under-delivered on field results to Cowboys fans for over two decades...I’m not interested. JJ and SJ are full of meaningless blather. The results they have been getting speak for them anyway.

 

[buybuydandavis]

So I wish Stephen and Jerry both would just be quiet. What they say rarely means that much regarding winning football games anyway.

PT Barnum & Son make their money by staying in the news. Eyeballs mean money.

I don't care what kind of nonsense they say in public. (Same as I said for TO.) I just hope they're making more sense in private. The public negotiation with Dak was simpy "we won't even consider another QB". This is the worst negotiating position, giving Dak no reason to have any negotiating stance but "gimme mo money".

Having said that, I'm thinking this is going to work out the best for us, as with an expected drop in the cap next year, there will be a severe free cap shortage across the league, vastly improving our bargaining position.

 

[Bobhaze]

PT Barnum & Son make their money by staying in the news. Eyeballs mean money.

I don't care what kind of nonsense they say in public. (Same as I said for TO.) I just hope they're making more sense in private. The public negotiation with Dak was simpy "we won't even consider another QB". This is the worst negotiating position, giving Dak no reason to have any negotiating stance but "gimme mo money".

Having said that, I'm thinking this is going to work out the best for us, as with an expected drop in the cap next year, there will be a severe free cap shortage across the league, vastly improving our bargaining position.

Serious question to a fan I respect- what evidence in terms of winning do we have that should make us feel better this year than other years with the Jones boys? We undoubtedly have a better head coach now, but JJ has already made two HOF coaches uncomfortable enough to leave.

Other than just raw hope, why should we as fans have any confidence in the Jones boys’ ability to build a team that wins in the playoffs? Fans in San Fran have seen their team go from bad to winning the NFC- twice in the last 10 years. Even the hated e-girls have won two NFC championships and a SB under two different HCs and GMs in the last 20 years.

Meanwhile, we still have the guys who take vacations when free agency opens, and are probably as we speak, negotiating the next big concert or tractor pull in their beloved “Stayjum”.

I want to have hope. But hope is not a strategy for winning as the old saying goes.