News: Herd: Jimmy Johnson reacts to Cowboys' Week 1 loss

[CowboyRoy]

Exactly my point. Jimmy sounds like an idiot bashing Dak in this recent video since he's pretty much describing what kind of player Troy was.

And Dak is obviously more comfortable in the more sporadic, hurry up situation where he can analyze the field with multiple options quickly and make a play.

Seems to struggle more when its more of a designed, progression based timing situation. Unless he gets a clean pocket.

 

[Diehardblues]

You still can't handle the truth!

So , only the Homers know the truth. Of course. Why didn’t we think of that. Lol

 

[Diehardblues]

Exactly my point. Jimmy sounds like an idiot bashing Dak in this recent video since he's pretty much describing what kind of player Troy was.

And why if you step back and take a deep breath , it wasn’t a bashing of Dak. Instead he was categorizing him with the comparisons.

 

[SportsGuru80]

*Yawns*

 

[GMO415]

Daks a mobile QB. If McVay can turn a statue like Goff into Steve Young to buy him more time, Moore should be able to do it with Dak.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Dak looks nothing like Testaverde. Dak is much more mobile, he doesn't throw side arm passes like Mahomes I get that but I just don't see the comparison.

Different QBs for sure but I do see the comparisons. Testaverde, when he was young, was much more talented, then is Dak right now. VT could do it all physically. Dak is thicker but Testaverde threw better, was probably a little faster and quicker but neither of these guys seem to be guys who can go off script. Some QBs can do that, Tony and Roger could do that but Testaverde and Dak seem to have trouble when they are asked to do that. Aikman was not great at that either but Favre was the poster child for that type of play style.

 

[America's Cowboy]

And Dak is obviously more comfortable in the more sporadic, hurry up situation where he can analyze the field with multiple options quickly and make a play.

Seems to struggle more when its more of a designed, progression based timing situation. Unless he gets a clean pocket.

Which is why I am seriously having doubts that Kelken Moore knows how to best use Dak with this offense.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Daks a mobile QB. If McVay can turn a statue like Goff into Steve Young to buy him more time, Moore should be able to do it with Dak.

Not as easy as all that. QBs can move well but it doesn't mean that they can move well while throwing the ball well also. Mechanics play a role here. Some guys can throw from lots of different platforms while other guys need very specific mechanics to be able to be accurate. Dak is not a guy who can be accurate without the mechanics so it's not as easy as just allowing him to move around and throw the ball unfortunately.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Maybe if Jimmy says it people will listen.


You get called a lot of things on this forum for pointing out what Dak is as a player and how he isn’t worth the deal he wants.

Dak is a good solid QB but paying him that kind of money will destroy our Super Bowl chances and this game is about winning the Super Bowl.

If Andy Dalton was the QB of this team you aren’t seeing a massive drop off at the position.

Incoming.........

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

If only Immy and Erry could have gotten along.

It's probably because Erry called Immy "Immy" that they don't. Just saying.........

 

[DallasDW00ds0n]

Agree with Jimmy

 

[SixFiveCowboy]

ROFLMAO.
Dak is 9th in QBR after week 1.

He'd be 6th if the OPI wasn't called.

He led a game-typing drive that they decided to go for it and had a pass fall perfectly into Gallup's hands versus the NFL's best CB with 21 seconds left that would have at least tied game if not won it.
He was imperfect but only goofballs that didn't watch the other games are criticizing that.

Dak was better week 1 than supposed elites Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Carson Wentz and former number 1 overalls Jared Goff, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield and Joe Burrow.
He was the best QB in the NFCE week 1.

The offensive issue was 3rd down and gosh I wonder why? Couldn't possibly be that the RT couldn't hold up at all on 3rd down pass attempts.

While this is true Dak was #1 in QBR this week, but he was also leading in that last year and losing the same one position games by 7 points or less. He was actually near dead last in games won in that scenario, something has to give here.

 

[pitt33]

Dak doesn't turn it over because he won't throw it. He just takes the sack or dumps it to the back. A lot.

this is fact.

He doesn't have confidence in his own abilities as a pocket passer.

 

[USArmyVet]

Just saw this and you have to really listen to Jimmy when he describes the type of QB Dak is (paraphrasing): Dak is the type of QB that needs to have everything precise for him to succeed; step back and throw the ball to a predetermined place without truly reading the defense. Also said that Dallas is not the type of team that can play from behind or play in a tight game but is a team that has to get the lead then pound the ball to hold on to the lead.

There has always been questions about Dak's ability to read a defense and get the ball out in a timely manner and Jimmy is calling out Dak for what he is and what he is not.

 

[GMO415]

Not as easy as all that. QBs can move well but it doesn't mean that they can move well while throwing the ball well also. Mechanics play a role here. Some guys can throw from lots of different platforms while other guys need very specific mechanics to be able to be accurate. Dak is not a guy who can be accurate without the mechanics so it's not as easy as just allowing him to move around and throw the ball unfortunately.

 

[Acheman08]

Aikman was the poster child for needing and having everything perfect around him. All the guy had to do was throw for 150 yards and a TD and not turn the ball over. Slant to Irvin for a FD here, curl to Novacek there, Maybe a post to Harper once in blue moon. Oh, and hand the ball off the Emmitt Smith about 30 times a game.

You must be a younger fan because Troy was an incredible QB and DEADLY accurate. Deadly. Yes he flourished in a structured, timing offense (with no rain) but he was so good, especially in big games. Dak isnt even close (and Im not a Dak hater). Dak holds the ball way too long and has to wait until someone gets open, stop and turn around before he throws. No anticipation at all. Is he good for a 4th rounder? Sure. Sometimes he makes great plays. But he isnt a $35/.40M QB and no where near Aikman. And to those that criticized Troys toughness or even passing yards, watch the first drive of the Cowboys/Eagles game in, I think, 93, thats on youtube. Legendary D in Philly with Brown and White and Dallas cut right through them. But, I think I counted what would be 5-6 personal fouls in todays league on the Ealges. Troy playing in todays rules would have put up huge numbers and played for 18 years.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I don't understand what this is supposed to mean. You show a clip of Dak rolling out, to his right, throwing to a wide open WR on the sideline. Basically the easiest rollout throw a QB can make. Are you suggesting that this is proof that he can throw from multiple platforms accurately? Is that what you are trying to prove here?

 

[iceberg]

Jimmy nailed it though... Dak can't process the field like $40mil QBs do.

always been my issue. he can throw a pretty pass at times, but he just doesn't see the field like romo for one, or other franchise qb's as another.

makes him a caretaker, not the future.

 

[Wood]

Interesting that Jimmy thinks Dak is essentially opposite of Rogers (king of ab lib). The question become is McCarthy right guy (who success came from ad lib QB) to guide Dak. You can include Moore into conversation because Moore is more known for being cerebral tactical play designer. Maybe Dak needs very specific, simply play designer/play caller to keep things basic to one read then throw instead of trying to scan defense. In any case, none of this points to $40 mill/year QB.

 

[Frozen700]

Jimmy nailed it though... Dak can't process the field like $40mil QBs do.

And that's why I don't trust him.

He can only make the plays that are right there or designed to get a guy open. Other than that, his field scan selection is horrible. I have no faith that he can make the right play once his first option is gone.

#DontpayDak