What can zeke do to regain the title

Cmac

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....be traded, since he is the Fall Guy here.....and have a half-way decent OL to go along with a decent OC.
 

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Yes. He’s clearly the engine, and you can’t get qbs for bargain prices. Rbs you can pluck off the streeet and/or draft in late rounds. False equivalence muchacho. And Dak was most certainly carrying the team this year

Didn't see that in the win column. I guess you and I value different things.
 

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Didn't see that in the win column. I guess you and I value different things.

you said it yourself. “This is a team game and this is a bad team period”

that’s why it didn’t translate into wins. So no, we don’t value things differently, we just contextualize them differently.
 

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you said it yourself. “This is a team game and this is a bad team period”

that’s why it didn’t translate into wins. So no, we don’t value things differently, we just contextualize them differently.

Well, if it is a team game why single out Zeke for criticism and ignore Dak? Just noting the hypocrisy. Zeke isn't worth X dollars but Dak has huge numbers so he is worth it. Even though neither was getting us over the top.

Next season it won't be Zeke's cap number that keeps us from signing some good FAs. And I am on the Dak bandwagon, just really unsure how we afford him and enough other talent to win.
 

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of best back. Zeke's one of the best backs still, but I feel he needs to drop weight. He Needs to play at 223 or less to be at his best. I remember in training camp a few years ago, Zeke out ran chido for a td. That's impressive because chino's the same guy who hawked S Barkley. last year, so he has real speed. He ran with Julio 2 years. Who on the staff can get Zeke t commit to dropping weight? Is he dumb? Does he nt know that the more hits he takes the shorter his career is? More speed means more long tds and less hits.


Who gives a crap if Zeke has personal stats yet the team isn;t winning. That is the same mindset of the Dak applauders.
 

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Our o-line isn't average. It's awful. It was average in 2017 and 2018. Its terrible now and NO one has ever produced behind a terrible line. don't try to bring up Barry sanders either because his line had 2 prowlers and his Line wasn't bad. it wasn't number 1, but it wasn't below average. He just overran his blocks and didn't play with patience. He free styled. Zeke had a great line for one season. the lines gotten worse every year. it was slightly below average last year. Now its the worst in the league. D Henry would be terrible with this line because he can't make you miss consistently at the line of scrimmage or behind it.
You’re incorrect on so many levels unless you consider top 5 and top 10 in run blocking “average.” This year the O line is ranked 12th in run blocking which is the worst of zeke’s career.

There’s plenty of RB’s running behind worse O lines. You seem like one of those people that only watches the Cowboys and if the line isn’t 2016 then it’s average or sucks.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/nfl/offensive-line/2020
 

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Great RBs can produce behind average offensive lines.
Cant use that as an excuse for Zeke.
If Zeke wasn't tying us down with that contract I would consider drafting the RB from Clemson if he fell to the second round.

True that. They did pretty well against Notre Dame last night.
 

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Zeke is way down the list of this team's problems, but CZ is so agenda-driven rational discussion about anything is pretty much out the window.

It's a place of one-upmanship, know-it-alls, fantasy GM's, and Kool Kids Klub. Especially the Kool Kids Zeke Haters Klub. They hold themselves in very high esteem around here.

Like when people don't call Zeke a "rushing champion" because..."well he had more carries so it doesn't count".

Then proceed to give the win to Dak because "well that's the way the NFL counts it, idiot".

Rational? :lmao:
 

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Zeke hasn't broken a tackle or outrun anyone this year.
 

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He concentrated on strength and it worked. He is stronger now, but also slower and less agile. There was a vid floating around of Alvin Kamara's agility training. Zeke NEEDS that and a speed coach. The U used to have one years ago and they were always in the top 10. For some reason, they went another direction and now, well.. aren't often.
 

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....be traded, since he is the Fall Guy here.....and have a half-way decent OL to go along with a decent OC.
12th ranked run blocking isn’t good enough for the 2nd highest paid RB in the league? We could pick up a FA and have similar production for a fraction of the price.

You would fall on the sword for that loser, wouldn’t you?
 

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First off there are two things that would first have to happen if he has any chance and that is HANG ON TO THE BALL and second a better line. But even those two things won't guarantee he will. Losing weight may help with his speed. He never had that lighting speed you think he had. His combine speed was 4.47 seconds and that was at his lightest of his career.

You may not like this but most backs production really drops after 3 or 4 years. Heck the average career length for a NFL RB is only 2.67 years. Yes there are some that play a lot longer like Emmitt and now Perterson but those are the exceptions. Elliott may be an exception to play longer but that doesn't mean he'll be a league leading back for those years.
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Aside from a down year for him and the whole team......the fumbles are just maddening. It's both mental AND physical and that's not a great place to be.
 

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Zeke could care less about the title. Hes got 50mm guaranteed. He wants to mail it in till the contract expires and move on. Maybe he'll sign again if some team is stupid enough to overpay. if not he's set for life.
u gave a 25yo 50mm plus. This guy demanded money before his rookie contract expired cause all he cared about was money.
On top of that he plays for the worst team in the game. let me give u 50mm and see how much u care about your job performance especially if u worked for a company that sort of well...sucks
 

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12th ranked run blocking isn’t good enough for the 2nd highest paid RB in the league? We could pick up a FA and have similar production for a fraction of the price.

You would fall on the sword for that loser, wouldn’t you?
Nope, but he's got company in the loser department. You just refuse to see it. Now I hope you dissect ALL the shortcomings this afternoon....but I doubt it. We already got Zeke to blame, even if injured. You don't want a hammy strain....you want a hammy tear. We talkin' injury????....not a game...injury.
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12th ranked run blocking isn’t good enough for the 2nd highest paid RB in the league? We could pick up a FA and have similar production for a fraction of the price.

You would fall on the sword for that loser, wouldn’t you?
There he go.....we know you want JJ to go get him, some way, some how.....until he's ruined in the offense, until the talk of $$$.
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Nope, but he's got company in the loser department. You just refuse to see it. Now I hope you dissect ALL the shortcomings this afternoon....but I doubt it. We already got Zeke to blame, even if injured. You don't want a hammy strain....you want a hammy tear. We talkin' injury????....not a game...injury.
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How on earth do I refuse to see it?!

I’ve said there’s plenty of blame to go around but there’s only one player who sat out with 2 years left on his contract until he was the highest paid for his position.

There’s only one player that publicly demanded respect.

There’s only one player who said “men lie, women lie, numbers don’t lie” and I post HIS numbers to support my argument.

So where exactly am I wrong?
 

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There he go.....we know you want JJ to go get him, some way, some how.....until he's ruined in the offense, until the talk of $$$.
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Can you stay on topic or are you going to keep avoiding it by bringing up Lee, McCaffrey and other players who are irrelevant to the current discussion?

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