Twitter: Colin: Gap between Dak and Dalton is not massive

[Batman1980]

Why not pay Dak that bridge contract while drafting another QB. That’s basically what Jimmy suggested.

Yeah give Dak what he wants. Give him 4 years at top 10 money (even I don't want to give him top 5 money) and if he doesn't pan out, draft the next guy. 0-7 in the play-offs and 33 tells you Dalton will never be the guy.

 

[jay94]

Dak is going to get top 5 money. Get ready for it. The gap is huge between these two, where the position is the most important position in the game.

 

[Diehardblues]

If he was in his 18th season and he was throwing ducks like Peyton was, I would agree. He’s fine for another 4 years as a bridge QB and eventual back up. He’s only in his 11 season. Still has the arm.

He’s no doubt a great backup and can come in and win some games for you but his last few years in Cincy was more suspect . His mobility is almost nil. He does still have his arm and this a nice ball. But to carry your offense making plays against the Elite teams? IDK

I’d rather bridge Dak and develop a 1st round pick. Just my preference if we can get him signed. Plus if we decide to go with our new QB sooner, Dak would prob bring us more draft capital in a trade than Dalton in a couple years.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Why not pay Dak that bridge contract while drafting another QB. That’s basically what Jimmy suggested.

Dak wants Russell Wilson money. He’s simply going to bankrupt the team. And over 4 years. FFS, man.
He changed agents and went for the throat. He wants that money and he knows stupid teams will overpay. Like Minnesota.
You realize that this is basically what happened in WASH with Cousins. And in SD. With Brees. Slightly different but the rookie pay scale was different then. So GMs parlayed rookie QBs to get the point across. That’s why Rivers was traded for. SD got Rivers to let Brees know he’s not getting what he wanted. And then what happened? John Lynch broke his shoulder and the rest is history. Sound familiar? WASH wouldn’t give Cousins what he wanted. So he eventually was released and they just went out and got a comparable QB for less in a trade. DAL prepped for this. That’s why Dalton was brought in. Cause they knew this was how it was going to go in some way, shape or form and here we are. Basically the same scenario played out.

 

[Diehardblues]

Dak wants Russell Wilson money. He’s simply going to bankrupt the team. And over 4 years. ***, man.
He changed agents and went for the throat. He wants that money and he knows stupid teams will overpay. Like Minnesota.
You realize that this is basically what happened in WASH with Cousins. And in SD. With Brees. Slightly different but the rookie pay scale was different then. So GMs parlayed rookie QBs to get the point across. That’s why Rivers was traded for. SD got Rivers to let Brees know he’s not getting what he wanted. And then what happened? John Lynch broke his shoulder and the rest is history. Sound familiar? WASH wouldn’t give Cousins what he wanted. So he eventually was released and they just went out and got a comparable QB for less in a trade. DAL prepped for this. That’s why Dalton was brought in. Cause they knew this was how it was going to go in some way, shape or form and here we are. Basically the same scenario played out.

We shall see. It’s not over yet.

But the X factor is our Football Idiot owners who operate differently than the rest of the league.

 

[Diehardblues]

Jethro is more interested in remaining relevant for ratings and revenue than actually positioning himself to win a championship.

 

[Batman1980]

You'll get a lot more revenue and ratings with Rayne Dakota Prescott than you will with also-ran Andy Dalton.

 

[ShaneFalco]

We shall see. It’s not over yet.

I’m hearing that not only will the cap not go up this year, but it might not go up the following year either. It could just be negative Nancy’s but it’s not looking good for next year for sure.
We’re in a kind of holding pattern and I don’t think DAL can afford him anyways, regardless of what we think of him.
The fact he changed agents and went with a cutthroat guy tells everyone what this is about. He’s not coming down on his price and DAL already franchised him. I just think it’s fairly obvious that Daks camp are using the Cousins playbook on this. They know there are teams with boatloads of cap space out there.

 

[kskboys]

He’s no doubt a great backup and can come in and win some games for you but his last few years in Cincy was more suspect . His mobility is almost nil. He does still have his arm and this a nice ball. But to carry your offense making plays against the Elite teams? IDK

I’d rather bridge Dak and develop a 1st round pick. Just my preference if we can get him signed. Plus if we decide to go with our new QB sooner, Dak would prob bring us more draft capital in a trade than Dalton in a couple years.

Dalton should've never started for as long as he did. He was mediocre from the start

 

[leicafan]

If you are not smart enough to see the difference between Dak and Dalton. No wonder you will believe Cowturd's bs

 

[Proof]

And I’m telling you to do what other teams have done. Cause it works.
Pay Dalton 40 Million a yr on a 3 yr contract. He can be the bridge and eventual back up.
Like these other teams I used as examples they decide who the franchise QB is and where he’s drafted. Some moved up and got their guy. Others stayed put. A rookie QB in the 1st is on a cheap 5 year deal.
Rebuild the defense with the savings.

lol. What savings??? 40 mil a yr for Dalton? Andy Dalton? Thats savings? On top of paying for the rookie qb and using the draft capital. Yeah. Thanks but no thanks.

and the other teams you’re referring to all had desperation options on cheap contracts at qb (Tyrod , Tyrod again, Fitzmagic, etc) with the exception of KC and Balt. And they landed two of the most dynamic players we’ve seen in recent history at 10 and 32. So sure, sign me up for lightning in a bottle and no bridge qb and I’m in

 

[Diehardblues]

If you are not smart enough to see the difference between Dak and Dalton. No wonder you will believe Cowturd's bs

Collins trolling just provides these guys ammo to spill their agenda , nothing more.

 

[Diehardblues]

I’m hearing that not only will the cap not go up this year, but it might not go up the following year either. It could just be negative Nancy’s but it’s not looking good for next year for sure.
We’re in a kind of holding pattern and I don’t think DAL can afford him anyways, regardless of what we think of him.
The fact he changed agents and went with a cutthroat guy tells everyone what this is about. He’s not coming down on his price and DAL already franchised him. I just think it’s fairly obvious that Daks camp are using the Cousins playbook on this. They know there are teams with boatloads of cap space out there.

Haven’t you heard they’re expanding to 17 games?

That’s going to increase the Cap. At the very least and why the league has pushed this up is they were concerned after this years Pandemic it could go down.

The expansion will most likely prevent a decrease occurring. And even if there was it would be slight and only a 1 year fallback. The next bargaining agreement is on the horizon and the Cap will be increased again.

 

[Diehardblues]

@ShaneFalco If Jerry thinks Daks needed to remain relevant driving popularity and revenue then he’ll risk hurting our cap space .

And he’s still trying to prove he made the right decision on Dak. Don’t underestimate our Football Idiots personal agendas. The Cowboys don’t operate like the rest of the league, unfortunately.

My argument is mostly based on what I think our dysfunctional organization wants to do , not so much what I think we should do.

 

[Havic]

I would be interested in your list...just out of curiosity...understing that its your opinion

1. Rodgers
2. Mahomes
3. Brees
4. Brady
5. Wilson
6. Allen
7. Jackson (May get flack for this but he is a below average passer but an excellent runner)
8. Big Ben
9. Ryan
10. Prescott / Watson
11. Watson / Prescott

 

[ShaneFalco]

lol. What savings??? 40 mil a yr for Dalton? Andy Dalton? Thats savings? On top of paying for the rookie qb and using the draft capital. Yeah. Thanks but no thanks.

and the other teams you’re referring to all had desperation options on cheap contracts at qb (Tyrod , Tyrod again, Fitzmagic, etc) with the exception of KC and Balt. And they landed two of the most dynamic players we’ve seen in recent history at 10 and 32. So sure, sign me up for lightning in a bottle and no bridge qb and I’m in

Rookie QBs don’t make squat. They are on a 5 yr deal. And I didn’t say give Dalton 40mil a year. That’s what Dak wants. LOL. I said give him 40 for 3 yrs. it’s very cheap and fair for a bridge, long term back up.
Lightening in a bottle?!?! Franchise QBs are drafted almost every year.
Also KC, BALT went to the playoffs prior for numerous years and then moved on from their QBs.

 

[CATCH17]

Jethro is more interested in remaining relevant for ratings and revenue than actually positioning himself to win a championship.

And that is why the Dak deal will get done..

If he was dumb enough to pay Zeke there is no way he misses out on locking us into mediocrity.

We’ll never build a championship roster with this current team.. If we do it will be in 3 years most likely.

 

[ShaneFalco]

@ShaneFalco If Jerry thinks Daks needed to remain relevant driving popularity and revenue then he’ll risk hurting our cap space .

And he’s still trying to prove he made the right decision on Dak. Don’t underestimate our Football Idiots personal agendas. The Cowboys don’t operate like the rest of the league, unfortunately.

My argument is mostly based on what I think our dysfunctional organization wants to do , not so much what I think we should do.

Oh I know. All too well unfortunately.

 

[Diehardblues]

And that is why the Dak deal will get done..

If he was dumb enough to pay Zeke there is no way he misses out on locking us into mediocrity.

We’ll never build a championship roster with this current team.. If we do it will be in 3 years most likely.

We must always keep in mind that winning a championship isn’t the top priority . Or he’d get out of the way.

If it comes , that’s great but remaining relevant and popular drives the celebrity status our owner embraces for his franchise.

It’s obviously a proven commodity this era with #1 revenue despite more success on the field. Cowboys are Sports Entertainment at the highest level.

 

[Proof]

Rookie QBs don’t make squat. They are on a 5 yr deal. And I didn’t say give Dalton 40mil a year. That’s what Dak wants. LOL. I said give him 40 for 3 yrs. it’s very cheap and fair for a bridge, long term back up.
Lightening in a bottle?!?! Franchise QBs are drafted almost every year.
Also KC, BALT went to the playoffs prior for numerous years and then moved on from their QBs.

you might want to re-read the post I replied to and quoted. You absolutely said 40 per yr. thankfully that’s not what you meant. Lightning in a bottle in regards to getting MVP QB’s at pick ten and beyond. Obviously franchise qbs are picked every year, but far more busts are picked. Also what gives you any confidence in Dallas ability to sign good defensive FA’s?