Was Larry Allen or Bob Lilly the greatest cowboy

[Diehardblues]

Pro Bowl has become a popularity contest for at least the last 10 years or so. Frankly now its pretty worthless since so many make that roster because others drop out.

I’m not even sure it’s not worthless without the dropouts . Lol

All Pro has always been the Bar.

 

[CouchCoach]

Greatest ever also has to do with the time those that are into that sort of thing. Many want the greatest to be in their time.

I could offer some to rival Jerry Rice but that's just my opinion from watching them but a lot of Rice's production was due to the WCO and having players at the other WR positions.

The only exception I would have to that would be RB. I watched Jim Brown run on teams that were selling out to stop him, he was an absolute marvel to watch and I wasn't even a fan, the Browns owned the Cowboys back then.

Brady gets the GOAT because of the rings but in his prime, give me Johnny U.

 

[CWR]

At least your honest with your era. I think it’s a common denominator. We all hold closer to our hearts the first greatness we witnessed. Or at least use it as our barometer.

Yes sir, except the poor kids of today who haven't sniffed real success. The next time we win one I will cry like a little girl.

 

[Diehardblues]

Greatest ever also has to do with the time those that are into that sort of thing. Many want the greatest to be in their time.

I could offer some to rival Jerry Rice but that's just my opinion from watching them but a lot of Rice's production was due to the WCO and having players at the other WR positions.

The only exception I would have to that would be RB. I watched Jim Brown run on teams that were selling out to stop him, he was an absolute marvel to watch and I wasn't even a fan, the Browns owned the Cowboys back then.

Brady gets the GOAT because of the rings but in his prime, give me Johnny U.

Hell yea.

My dad always said Unitas was greatest QB ever. He actually got to see him play in Baltimore while in the Navy. Before Dallas had a team Colts were his team.

And my grandfather always claimed Sammy Baugh was greatest he ever saw.

It’s always about who you grew up seeing. Rarely do we see later in life our greatest talents.

There’s been a few exceptions for me. Like Brady. Lebron is another one who’s definitely one of the greatest. But there’s not many .

 

[nightrain]

I wish we had both of them now. That would be enough horsepower to get this team rolling.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Hell yea.

My dad always said Unitas was greatest QB ever. He actually got to see him play in Baltimore while in the Navy. Before Dallas had a team Colts were his team.

And my grandfather always claimed Sammy Baugh was greatest he ever saw.

It’s always about who you grew up seeing. Rarely do we see later in life our greatest talents.

There’s been a few exceptions for me. Like Brady. Lebron is another one who’s definitely one of the greatest. But there’s not many .

Well, you can still make a pretty good case for both of those guys. Those aren't bad choices, at all.......

 

[Shane612]

Bob Lilly.
But Larry Allen is top 5 for sure.

 

[TexasBoys2288]

Bob Lilly I would say.

But Larry Allen was a BA too:

 

[atlantacowboy]

Greatest Cowboy was Roger Staubach.

 

[Aviano90]

Emmitt Smith

 

[Rockport]

I know the QB's and a running back or two, maybe even a CB and safety would inter into this discussion, but theses two were world class.

who you got? it's the offseason for us at least.

Discuss.

Larry Allen put fear in the hearts of the greatest defensive lineman of his era. Some wouldn’t even try to take him on. The most physically dominant player to ever play the game. Offense or defense.

 

[cowboybish]

Let’s line up Larry against Lilly and Larry would win most of the time. I’d go with Larry!

 

[Kingofholland]

If you're comparing just these two in a head to head matchup I would go Lilly all day.

 

[Turk]

Larry Allen put fear in the hearts of the greatest defensive lineman of his era. Some wouldn’t even try to take him on. The most physically dominant player to ever play the game. Offense or defense.

I heard consistently over several years that players that were about to face LA asked the team to put them on the injured list so that when LA completely humiliated them they had an excuse.

 

[Ring Leader]

Roger and the red head were 1a and 1b. Larry Allen was a close 3rd.

 

[ClappingCarrot]

Staubach is the greatest Cowboy and every former and current Cowboy will tell you the same thing. Aikman once said that if Staubach doesn't top the list, then it isn't a good list.

Larry Allen is insane though and one of few Cowboys I can think of that were all time the greatest to ever play the their respective position. I think Erik Williams would've been the greatest RT to ever play as well had he not gotten in the crash.

 

[RoboQB]

None of my business but I think you're overreacting to the point he's making, It's the same as living through the 60's and studying them later, it's just a different experience.

Years from now they will still remember 9/11 but those of us that lived through that have a totally different experience, like my parents when Pearl Harbor was bombed. There are historians that have studied Pearl Harbor and are more informed and knowledgeable than most of the people who lived through that but the experience level is completely different.

I have watched the Ice Bowl and the Emmitt game several times but nothing matches the emotional experience of the first time through them, what's missing and can't be recaptured is the drama of the moment. Bart Starr going over Jerry Kramer is interesting now; it was devastating then.

There are just moments in time that are truly "you had to be there".

He edited his original comment.
The second paragraph was not originally included.
You can see that it was edited and time stamped.
Dirty trick.
Eliminate that second paragraph and reconsider my response.

 

[RoboQB]

Go back and reread my initial post you responded to in which the meaning was despite the knowledge I gained on the subject of the Great Depression it was my families experiences living thru it that truly brought my paper to life.

I’m not questioning your knowledge. Do you really believe you can know what the impact was in real time ?

As I originally stated. Regardless the knowledge one has without the real life experience it’s difficult to realize the impact and emotion whether it’s sporting event or American history.

Do Cowboy fans really believe watching old highlights that they’ll ever feel the emotion and impact it was in the moment losing the Ice Bowl, the Hail Mary pass or our 1st SB win, etc. Just like those who weren’t living when planes crashed into the World Trade Towers will ever feel the impact and experience of the moment. It has nothing to do with the knowledge of the event you may gain from studying.

Awfully dirty trick you played there.
You went back and added that second paragraph after I mentioned The Great Depression.

 

[kskboys]

Greatest ever also has to do with the time those that are into that sort of thing. Many want the greatest to be in their time.

I could offer some to rival Jerry Rice but that's just my opinion from watching them but a lot of Rice's production was due to the WCO and having players at the other WR positions.

The only exception I would have to that would be RB. I watched Jim Brown run on teams that were selling out to stop him, he was an absolute marvel to watch and I wasn't even a fan, the Browns owned the Cowboys back then.

Brady gets the GOAT because of the rings but in his prime, give me Johnny U.

Otto Graham went 10 times and won 7 of them, so doesn't that make him the GOAT?

 

[plasticman]

Bob was more than just an iconic HOFer. He personified the Cowboy culture back then. He was the first great Cowboy player.

Bob LIlly was the reason teams couldn't run down the middle of the Cowboy defense.

Dallas Cowboys #1 against the run from 1966 to 1975 in both yards and yard/attempt. That was Bob Lilly.

He is precisely what the Cowboys need right now...