Goodell a great Commish for the times

[CouchCoach]

RG was 100% wrong as his own investigators said NO PUNISHMENT was the best action..he then suspends him for more then most any other person gets with 100% NO PROOF..it was very wrong.//

who give a flytimn flip what happened at that parade, that not even an issue it happened After and wasnt even a complaint buy his FREIND just caught on cameras..so lets get real he was wrongly punished and severely so as 6 games is for real proved offenses.. EE was on his way to another Rushing title led the league ion YPG even with the mess surrounding him, if he plays 16 games he makes history winning 3 straight Rushing titles..period it was wrong.. no debate no facts to support anythg but RG was wrong..

Not investigators, one investigator and that was because of the credibility of the woman.

Facts? Don't know about that but there was evidence, circumstantial or not. Elliott admitted they drank to excess and did drugs and his excuse for her bruises and marks was not believable. Was he guilty of DV? Have no idea and neither does anyone else except he and the woman.

What I do know is that his HC was instrumental in getting Elliott's father to quit his job and move to Columbus and that was a first for me. I never heard of that before. He did mess with that girl's shirt while he was under investigation for disrespecting his woman and pulls that stunt out in the open? I think Elliott suffered a little bulletproofitis because he's the big football stud.

Did he slap the girl around? Have no idea but I think he could have under the influence of alcohol, drugs and a woman pushing all his buttons. She's a piece of work and strikes me as the kind that would push his buttons and not let up. I think it could have escalated under the wrong conditions.

RG has that panel of 4 to weigh against that 1 investigator who said it was all about victim credibility to her. When that went public, what was he to do? Why have the panel if he's not going to follow a unanimous recommendation? He also had the DA's office telling him they believed something happened but they didn't want to be the ones to ruin a local football hero. Seeing how they held an elected office in Columbus, Ohio.

 

[Rayman70]

Not investigators, one investigator and that was because of the credibility of the woman.

Facts? Don't know about that but there was evidence, circumstantial or not. Elliott admitted they drank to excess and did drugs and his excuse for her bruises and marks was not believable. Was he guilty of DV? Have no idea and neither does anyone else except he and the woman.

What I do know is that his HC was instrumental in getting Elliott's father to quit his job and move to Columbus and that was a first for me. I never heard of that before. He did mess with that girl's shirt while he was under investigation for disrespecting his woman and pulls that stunt out in the open? I think Elliott suffered a little bulletproofitis because he's the big football stud.

Did he slap the girl around? Have no idea but I think he could have under the influence of alcohol, drugs and a woman pushing all his buttons. She's a piece of work and strikes me as the kind that would push his buttons and not let up. I think it could have escalated under the wrong conditions.

RG has that panel of 4 to weigh against that 1 investigator who said it was all about victim credibility to her. When that went public, what was he to do? Why have the panel if he's not going to follow a unanimous recommendation? He also had the DA's office telling him they believed something happened but they didn't want to be the ones to ruin a local football hero. Seeing how they held an elected office in Columbus, Ohio.

ROGER abused his power and this is only one example of a long line of offenses by him. It was a travesty what he did to Zeke and the team.

 

[Diehardblues]

owners and COMISH handed the keys to them. THAT was the fatal flaw and will be why the league will be in dire straits soon. Even if Goodell is just a figure head as you suggest, optics need to change and only way to change that with the fans is to make a positive, at least OPTICALLY. A change at the top. Fans are disenfranchised by the man at the top. Does that not matter? If not, then the fans will revolt. The product on the field should matter more. The guy who allegedly, is suppose to provide checks and balances(goodell)..has not. He randomly uses his power heavy handedly, not uniformly like is expected. He must go and the owners must fall in line.Fans are much smarter than they think.

The owners hand the keys to them. And the fans turn the key.

I’m hopeful more fans are educated to the issues than a few have responded here too. And a big part of why I take on issues like these.

And as long as the owners are pleased the Commish will stay in place. If you want to revolt to the NFL then I’d advise to stay away cause the best measurement is revenue. Which has grown enormously under Goodell’s watch.

 

[blueblood70]

Not investigators, one investigator and that was because of the credibility of the woman.

Facts? Don't know about that but there was evidence, circumstantial or not. Elliott admitted they drank to excess and did drugs and his excuse for her bruises and marks was not believable. Was he guilty of DV? Have no idea and neither does anyone else except he and the woman.

What I do know is that his HC was instrumental in getting Elliott's father to quit his job and move to Columbus and that was a first for me. I never heard of that before. He did mess with that girl's shirt while he was under investigation for disrespecting his woman and pulls that stunt out in the open? I think Elliott suffered a little bulletproofitis because he's the big football stud.

Did he slap the girl around? Have no idea but I think he could have under the influence of alcohol, drugs and a woman pushing all his buttons. She's a piece of work and strikes me as the kind that would push his buttons and not let up. I think it could have escalated under the wrong conditions.

RG has that panel of 4 to weigh against that 1 investigator who said it was all about victim credibility to her. When that went public, what was he to do? Why have the panel if he's not going to follow a unanimous recommendation? He also had the DA's office telling him they believed something happened but they didn't want to be the ones to ruin a local football hero. Seeing how they held an elected office in Columbus, Ohio.

it was wrong then and more wrong now period

 

[Rayman70]

Im just fed up with the easy excuse, I hear it every day.
My breakfast was bad because of...
My day was ruined because of...
My car wouldnt start because of...
So tired of the crying..
Stock advice... invest in Kleenex

real quick, I mentioned to another poster on this thread the thought of handing the keys to the city to the players. I give you case and point of such. Look at Jaylon Smiths mindset when he's interviewed. He seems sullen, more concerned with his community platform and his SOCIAL MEDIA stature etc than his job,,or WINNING. This all goes back to what you said Typhus. Its an out and they sure use it. No accountability whatsoever. When Jaylon speaks my stomach churns.I see no passion. It has spread from the social media world to football now and its spreading like a cancer. Turns out fans dont like this crap and we want our money back. lol

 

[Rayman70]

time for new leadership at the TOP. Its a start.

 

[Diehardblues]

ROGER abused his power and this is only one example of a long line of offenses by him. It was a travesty what he did to Zeke and the team.

It was a travesty what Elliott did to the team.

While under investigation he continued with personal conduct issues as Coach referred to . If it was the Initial incident only I think there’d be a better argument for Elliott. But while under investigation he didn’t really provide the league that this was an isolated incident of poor choices of behavior.

But in the end if you read the Personal Conduct Policy it clearly states that a guilty verdict isn’t necessary for violation. Again, not sure if all fans are educated on the details . Instead infused with emotion and self interest driving their thoughts.

 

[Rayman70]

It was a travesty what Elliott did to the team.

While under investigation he continued with personal conduct issues as Coach referred to . If it was the Initial incident only I think there’d be a better argument for Elliott. But while under investigation he didn’t really provide the league that this was an isolated incident of poor choices of behavior.

But in the end if you read the Personal Conduct Policy it clearly states that a guilty verdict isn’t necessary for violation. Again, not sure if all fans are educated on the details . Instead infused with emotion and self interest driving their thoughts.

what law did he break? Was he charged? HE DID NOTHING. If anything he did some unsavory stuff but didnt break any laws...was never charged. He was used as an example. Man, you gotta be on Rogers staff..wow lol

 

[Diehardblues]

what law did he break? Was he charged? HE DID NOTHING. If anything he did some unsavory stuff but didnt break any laws...was never charged. He was used as an example. Man, you gotta be on Rogers staff..wow lol

You don’t have to break a law to violate the Personal Conduct Policy. You only have to be accused of breaking the law. Perhaps more fans need to acquaint themselves with the NFL policy?

Of course he was used as an example. But it was his poor choices that placed him in that position.

And no, I’ve been a long time supporter of the leagues stance on DV and Personal Conduct Policy.

 

[Typhus]

real quick, I mentioned to another poster on this thread the thought of handing the keys to the city to the players. I give you case and point of such. Look at Jaylon Smiths mindset when he's interviewed. He seems sullen, more concerned with his community platform and his SOCIAL MEDIA stature etc than his job,,or WINNING. This all goes back to what you said Typhus. Its an out and they sure use it. No accountability whatsoever. When Jaylon speaks my stomach churns.I see no passion. It has spread from the social media world to football now and its spreading like a cancer. Turns out fans dont like this crap and we want our money back. lol

Its the new revolution of this mindset, they use it at all levels.
The real heroes are already buried...

 

[Rayman70]

It was a travesty what Elliott did to the team.

While under investigation he continued with personal conduct issues as Coach referred to . If it was the Initial incident only I think there’d be a better argument for Elliott. But while under investigation he didn’t really provide the league that this was an isolated incident of poor choices of behavior.

But in the end if you read the Personal Conduct Policy it clearly states that a guilty verdict isn’t necessary for violation. Again, not sure if all fans are educated on the details . Instead infused with emotion and self interest driving their thoughts.

Its the new revolution of this mindset, they use it at all levels.
The real heroes are already buried...

bingo. I hate it.

 

[Rayman70]

You don’t have to break a law to violate the Personal Conduct Policy. You only have to be accused of breaking the law. Perhaps more fans need to acquaint themselves with the NFL policy?

Of course he was used as an example. But it was his poor choices and conduct that placed him in that position.

That is just dumb. Was Zeke stupid? YES...did he break laws? NO. Goodell made a gross error in his judgment s well. To argue anything else is asinine.

 

[CouchCoach]

ROGER abused his power and this is only one example of a long line of offenses by him. It was a travesty what he did to Zeke and the team.

He had Elliott's help in doing that.

Once this went public and the investigation launched, what would you have advised Elliott to do? The media had this story by the tail and his background about his father moving to Columbus and his rep as a party boy became national news because this is the Cowboys.

Back to my question. Would you have advised him to go to that parade and get himself videoed disrespecting a woman in public? That happens without the investigation going on, that's page 6 stuff but that wasn't the case and it was page 1. Now this had moved into the most precarious court for the NFL, the one of public opinion.

So, Elliott pulling that dumb stunt, does that make people less or more likely to think he could have committed DV? He's not even taking the investigation seriously and this is the guy that announced he was going pro after losing to MI and he was pissed because he wasn't featured more. He's privileged in their minds.

And then there's that panel with their unanimous recommendation, is Goodell just to sweep that aside and suffer the wrath of the movement he just got a little taste of with Rice? He let's Elliott skate and it's open season on him and the NFL.

Goodell helped put himself in that situation with the handling of the Rice incident but Elliott did his part to help force Goodell into that decision because I said it at the time, that parade incident removed the benefit of the doubt with a lot of the public but completely with women. It was exactly the type thing I would expect from a guy that had to have his father move to his college town to get him under some control.

 

[Diehardblues]

The Personal Conduct Policy has only affected about 1% of NFL players. 99% have no issue with it.

It’s amazing we have fans who want to punish 99% for this minuscule percentage who are tarnishing the leagues image.

And then want to bash the Hired Gun to bring the hammer down on them .

 

[Typhus]

bingo. I hate it.

Brother, jump into the new revolution, those that havent given up, those that havent been conditioned.
Im working hard every day to possibly elevate awareness, I wont go down easy.. mods can move my post, even delete my account, it wont stop me...

 

[Diehardblues]

That is just dumb. Was Zeke stupid? YES...did he break laws? NO. Goodell made a gross error in his judgment s well. To argue anything else is asinine.

Again, I’d advise to read the Personal Conduct Policy.

 

[Rayman70]

The Personal Conduct Policy has only affected about 1% of NFL players. 99% have no issue with it.

It’s amazing we have fans who want to punish 99% for this minuscule percentage who are tarnishing the leagues image.

And then want to bash the Hired Gun to bring the hammer down on them .

dont mind the hammer as long as its equally applied.

 

[CouchCoach]

it was wrong then and more wrong now period

That's your opinion and I don't share it. I don't know if he hit her but I do know he didn't give Goodell any help to dismiss it. If I am under investigation, I am Mother Teresa with a beard until this thing blows over.

 

[Rayman70]

Again, I’d advise to read the Personal Conduct Policy.

its not worth the paper its written on if he picks and chooses when to apply the policy to certain players and ignore others.

 

[Whyjerry]

Plus this ******** keeps pushing Thomas Brady down our throats, In this scripted a** league.

Very NBA model. Push the stars not the game.