News: CW: Leading analytics team makes case for Cowboys letting Prescott walk

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Good article and while my preference is with Dak as I think hes a top 10 QB I can live with a scenario that nets us a Mac Jones. Zach Wilson will be gone by 10 in all likelihood as i see him as the 2nd QB taken. I would say such a bold move would require definate improvement on the defensive side of the ball with the rest of the picks and FA. Dak has never been the bulk of the problem in fact he much like his predecessor has covered for alot of the teams issues.
 

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Yeah. He was ranked one of the worst starters but he's the best. You're ridiculous man honestly. no concept of taking accountability when you are wrong or off base. Grow up

Yeah. Byron Jones is a great player. I'm glad someone told you he's one of the worst and you believed it.
 

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So their position is. The cowboys MAY find better short term success IF they hit on drafting a QB.

wow that insight.

It’s literally the same damn argument we have all been having here for over a year now.
Sure, but who has faith we’ll hit on a QB in the draft?

And if you don’t how many years are we set back?

Why, because we are pinching about 3-5 million a year . Totally ridiculous!!
 

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I’ll be honest, I see both sides of the debate here. Which is why I am completely indifferent as to what happens, if that makes sense.
I see both sides as well. I simply have little (bordering on none) belief that he is a difference maker. If I had any confidence that he was the difference between winning & losing against high level competition, I would be firmly in the sign Dak camp.
 

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Sure, but who has faith we’ll hit on a QB in the draft?

And if you don’t how many years are we set back?

Why, because we are pinching about 3-5 million a year . Totally ridiculous!!

Stop being scared..

Our choices are accept mediocrity or risk being bad with the potential to be a lot better then we could be with a 40 million dollar QB.

Imagine the Chiefs being scared to move on from Alex Smith.

Worst case is we are like Washington and go from not winning anything to not winning anything and drafting guys like Chase Young.
 

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Stop being scared..

Our choices are accept mediocrity or risk being bad with the potential to be a lot better then we could be with a 40 million dollar QB.

Imagine the Chiefs being scared to move on from Alex Smith.

Worst case is we are like Washington and go from not winning anything to not winning anything and drafting guys like Chase Young.
It'd be easier to move on if we had a Patrick Mahomes waiting in the wings.
 

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It'd be easier to move on if we had a Patrick Mahomes waiting in the wings.

They took the risk by drafting him.

They could’ve played it safe with Alex Smith who was having nice success and was almost due a contract.

Good QBs like Alex Smith are hard to find you know.. When you have one like him you gotta keep them.
 

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Yeah. Byron Jones is a great player. I'm glad someone told you he's one of the worst and you believed it.
"Byron Jones signed a five-year contract with Miami this offseason, making him the fifth-highest paid cornerback in football. It is safe to say that, so far, that has not worked out as well as the Dolphins might have hoped. Jones allowed 10.6 yards per target and 17.6 yards per completion, both worst among starting cornerbacks in 2020. His two interceptions are misleading; he set a career low with just three pass breakups and 42 tackles and tied his career high with 10 broken and missed tackles, and his 82.5% deserved catch percentage was the highest SIS has recorded for him as well. Now, to be fair, some of those high average numbers come from the fact that opposing quarterbacks were more likely to challenge Xavien Howard or Eric Rowe; Jones had just 73 targets per Sportradar. But when he was targeted, Jones gave up far too much for someone of his caliber and paycheck. I'd expect him to bounce back next season, but those are not numbers you want to see out of your $82.5-million man."

I bolded and underlined it for you. Since you LOVE YOUR STATS.

Tell me how this guy is wrong, and the stats are wrong. Please. Or. Admit you have no idea what you are doing and that's why you aren't a GM. Stop being condescending and acting like a know it all. When none of us do.
 

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They took the risk by drafting him.

They could’ve played it safe with Alex Smith who was having nice success and was almost due a contract.

Good QBs like Alex Smith are hard to find you know.. When you have one like him you gotta keep them.
Yeah....they certainly did have some foresight when they drafted him. I also appreciate what the Packers did when they drafted Rodgers while Favre was still on the team.

The draft show was making a good point yesterday. You are going to have to use capital either way. Either you are using cash/cap capital if you sign Dak...or...you are using draft capital (multiple first round picks) to move up and take your QB in the draft.

At this point....I'm going to be ok with either. If we move on from Dak, I hope we have some sort of plan to move up to take a QB.
 

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I think the only way someone trades for him is a Carson Wentz type of deal because the problem with Dak is you have to pay him as well.
Do you think Dalton is signing the same deal to start as he would to be a backup?
 

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Stop being scared..

Our choices are accept mediocrity or risk being bad with the potential to be a lot better then we could be with a 40 million dollar QB.

Imagine the Chiefs being scared to move on from Alex Smith.

Worst case is we are like Washington and go from not winning anything to not winning anything and drafting guys like Chase Young.
I’ve accepted mediocrity. But that begin wayyyy before Dak and will continue after him.

I’m scared of our dysfunctional organization without getting lucky on a decent QB. I have no faith they could intentionally find a great QB.

At least with a Romo or Dak we are interesting . Without we are bottom dwellers.
 

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"Byron Jones signed a five-year contract with Miami this offseason, making him the fifth-highest paid cornerback in football. It is safe to say that, so far, that has not worked out as well as the Dolphins might have hoped. Jones allowed 10.6 yards per target and 17.6 yards per completion, both worst among starting cornerbacks in 2020. His two interceptions are misleading; he set a career low with just three pass breakups and 42 tackles and tied his career high with 10 broken and missed tackles, and his 82.5% deserved catch percentage was the highest SIS has recorded for him as well. Now, to be fair, some of those high average numbers come from the fact that opposing quarterbacks were more likely to challenge Xavien Howard or Eric Rowe; Jones had just 73 targets per Sportradar. But when he was targeted, Jones gave up far too much for someone of his caliber and paycheck. I'd expect him to bounce back next season, but those are not numbers you want to see out of your $82.5-million man."

I bolded and underlined it for you. Since you LOVE YOUR STATS.

Tell me how this guy is wrong, and the stats are wrong. Please. Or. Admit you have no idea what you are doing and that's why you aren't a GM. Stop being condescending and acting like a know it all. When none of us do.


I’m not going to get into a debate about Byron Jones being terrible.. If you believe that then fine.. The guy who even wrote that doesn’t even believe it and says that the numbers look bad because the lack of targets against him and expects a bounce back.
 

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Sure, but who has faith we’ll hit on a QB in the draft?

And if you don’t how many years are we set back?

Why, because we are pinching about 3-5 million a year . Totally ridiculous!!


I agree. Which is why I lean toward signing Dak.


Sure. The ceiling of the team could be higher if you draft the next Mahomes or Rodgers.

but of course the team will suck if you draft the next Haskins or Trubisky or whoever.


Both options carry risks. Signing Dak long term carries risks. Drafting a QB carries risks.
 

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Do you think Dalton is signing the same deal to start as he would to be a backup?

I don’t know and don’t care.. We can do a lot better than Dalton and still not pay Dak prices.

Dalton is a mediocre at best player and Dak is a slightly better then mediocre player and there is 20 of these guys like Tannehill, Beidgewater, Dalton, and Dak that all get you to the same place in the end.
 

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If your sold Dak he is enough to be a Franchise QB you have to sign him. Franchise doesn’t mean elite.

The opposition doesn’t believe he’s even a Franchise QB.
 

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I agree. Which is why I lean toward signing Dak.


Sure. The ceiling of the team could be higher if you draft the next Mahomes or Rodgers.

but of course the team will suck if you draft the next Haskins or Trubisky or whoever.


Both options carry risks. Signing Dak long term carries risks. Drafting a QB carries risks.


You don’t have to Draft the next Mahomes or Rodgers.. If you do then a Championship is incoming.

The point is you can build a better overall team without Dak.. With Dak you’re going to need him to actually carry the team and as you guys tell me all the time he needs defense, OL, WRs, RBs, TE, Coaching, good weather, good breakfast, good rest, and whatever else being optimal for him to get us to a Super Bowl.
 

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I agree. Which is why I lean toward signing Dak.


Sure. The ceiling of the team could be higher if you draft the next Mahomes or Rodgers.

but of course the team will suck if you draft the next Haskins or Trubisky or whoever.


Both options carry risks. Signing Dak long term carries risks. Drafting a QB carries risks.
But we know what we have with Dak. We can win division with him. It’s all an unknown without him.

And why most teams don’t let their Franchise QB walk. You ride it out. For better or worse. It’s the safe bet.
 

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You don’t have to Draft the next Mahomes or Rodgers.. If you do then a Championship is incoming.

The point is you can build a better overall team without Dak.. With Dak you’re going to need him to actually carry the team and as you guys tell me all the time he needs defense, OL, WRs, RBs, TE, Coaching, good weather, good breakfast, good rest, and whatever else being optimal for him to get us to a Super Bowl.
This dysfunctional organization couldn’t build a better team on Dak and Zekes rookie contracts.

We needed a Romo to carry this dysfunctional organization to relevance . And thats what Prescott presents. Otherwise it’s all a hope and prayer our Football Idiot and Son will find their way. Lol
 
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