MarcusRock
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You are utter trash.
Thanks for your contributions, "Og." Lol.
You are utter trash.
It is clear you have an obvious agenda that has nothing to do with the truth. And no one takes any of your “truths” seriously because of how extremely slanted your takes are. Honestly…get a life man! It must be sad to be so obsessed with such a trivial matter. Just my “take” lol
Just found video of the slo mo replay and the ball is out before the 3rd foot comes down. It's not a catch and correctly called incomplete. At 0:53 below.
It was a fumble and should have been ruled as a fumble. Waller catches the ball in his hands, takes 2 steps (see part 2), and then turns upfield. (part 3). It was a catch and a fumble according to the NFL rulebook.
The refs were clearly screwing Dallas all day and I don't care about the Raiders getting 14 penalties called too. The Cowboys got the worst of the refs calls, especially that last PI called on Brown on a 3rd and 18. That ball was underthrown and Brown had underneath position. He made incidental and frankly light contact until the receiver grabbed Brown around the helmet. Calling PI on that was ridiculous and gave the Raiders the game.
That roughing the QB call was also ridiculous. That team has no business officiating NFL games. I remember Hochuli's father was always giving it to Dallas too.
The rule:
ARTICLE 3. COMPLETED OR INTERCEPTED PASS
A player who makes a catch may advance the ball. A forward pass is complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) in the field of play, at the sideline, or in the end zone if a player, who is inbounds:
- secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and
- touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and
- after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, performs any act common to the game (e.g., tuck the ball away, extend it forward, take an additional step, turn upfield, or avoid or ward off an opponent), or he maintains control of the ball long enough to do so
Oh shoot. Wow. My apologies. I thought it was huddled. That's crazy.No, McCarthy tried to challenge it but was told it was already reviewed and ruled an incomplete pass. Since the refs didn't review it, I assume it came from the NFL office.
Yeah, I posted this and explained it if you read on in the thread. For me, he didn't turn up field after control and 2 feet were established like the rule says (I think it was during), so you have to look for the 3rd step that's part of the rule and the ball came out just before that. I think it's also what the refs were looking for which makes it an easy review at that point.
Turning upfield is not actually a requirement. It is an example of a football move. Waller caught the ball on the move and he was already heading upfield. By taking two steps after the catch and continuing in the direction he is moving - even starting to take a 3rd step, he is making a football move. He had the ball in control in his hands. He had two feet down and was making a 3rd step. That is possession and a catch.
Turning upfield is not actually a requirement. It is an example of a football move. Waller caught the ball on the move and he was already heading upfield. By taking two steps after the catch and continuing in the direction he is moving - even starting to take a 3rd step, he is making a football move. He had the ball in control in his hands. He had two feet down and was making a 3rd step. That is possession and a catch.
Honest opinion: do you think GB or Pitts get that call?I have no idea what a catch is or isn’t anymore anyways. I’ll just take their word for it and pretend the officials aren’t out to screw us over.
Yep, he took 2 full steps and started to take a 3rd as he was tucking the ball under his arm and lost it.
FYI, we couldn't challenge it because NY called down to say they reviewed it and it wasn't a catch. Complete nonsense that they are randomly chiming in without any challenge and we aren't aware of it.
I know it's only an example of a football move. What I'm saying is he didn't turn upfield after control and 2 feet down like the rule requires so then you have to look to another football move and that's the 3rd step. That 3rd step never touched down before the ball came out so that's why it's incomplete.
Just found video of the slo mo replay and the ball is out before the 3rd foot comes down. It's not a catch and correctly called incomplete. At 0:53 below.
Because it's what he does after the 2 feet come down. Among the items considered a football move is a 3rd step (while running, theoretically). In the video, Waller never got his 3rd foot down, right?
RULE 8 FORWARD PASS, BACKWARD PASS, FUMBLE
ARTICLE 3. COMPLETED OR INTERCEPTED PASS. A player who makes a catch may advance the ball. A forward pass is
complete (by the offense) or intercepted (by the defense) in the field of play, at the sideline, or in the end zone if a player, who is
inbounds:
(a) secures control of the ball in his hands or arms prior to the ball touching the ground; and
(b) touches the ground inbounds with both feet or with any part of his body other than his hands; and
(c) after (a) and (b) have been fulfilled, performs any act common to the game (e.g., tuck the ball away, extend it forward, take
an additional step, turn upfield, or avoid or ward off an opponent), or he maintains control of the ball long enough to do so.
Ask dez if a third step counts!!!You have video? "Starting" to take a 3rd step is not a catch. "Taking" a 3rd step is.
I give up trying to understand what the nfl considers a catch anymore however I think 99% of the people watching could agree that was a catch
im sure we will now hear about how some posters know more than Terry though.
That big Blue M&M had a TV Screen the length of a football field to review the play and did not throw a 1st half challenge flag that would have given a huge momentum change and field position turnaround.There were many, many, many bad calls but the Waller fumble that was called an incomplete pass was as bad as the Dez catch/no catch. Waller had the ball and was heading up the field when Jayron Kearse knocked that ball out of his hand.