The worst day in Cowboys history

[ESisback]

You're misreading the room. There's very few who are fighting w/ you. You're focusing on them. This is akin to the Dak arguments where you actually have a very few on either side who think he's either great or terrible. Same thing here. There's just a few who you argue w/ you, and you're thinking they are the majority. Take the top 5 arguers out, and there's no one who disagrees w/ you.

And I’m not even fighting! I’m chuckling most of the time I’m typing. Some folks take themselves too seriously! Why is everything so serious, so “either or”?

 

[CouchCoach]

Understood but this is the life of an activist. Efforts often have little effect if any but it’s all we have. It provides some comfort we are speaking out.

And the fact there are still many supporters is a reminder there’s still some seeds to be planted.

Not everyone has the fortitude to continue such effort. That’s fine but why assault them. It’s like our efforts become worse than what we are marching on. I’ll never understand this opposition and can only see it as support for our ownership.

I’m not always passionate enough on some issues to exert the energy and effort to speak out but I don’t bash those who do. Unless I’m in support of the issues they are speaking out against.

Gregg, they're really not arguing with you. It's like Reid calling me out for hammering Booger, some posters just get tired of it. They end up disagreeing in hopes of getting you, or me, to back off of it.

It's like all of us are in this lifeboat. Been there for 26 years, no land in sight and you keep saying "I'm hungry, I'm thirsty". We all are but continuing to say it doesn't make it any better.

That's why I chose the path of acceptance and him running it doesn't bother me nearly as much as him running his mouth but I try my best to avoid that.

This is one of this applications to the "change the things I can and accept the things I can't and recognize the difference".

You and I are not really aligned on this as you do not like the man running it; I do not like the man.

 

[Diehardblues]

Opposition to your message?!? What are you, a freedom fighter? Religious martyr? It’s a freakin’ football team! Get a grip! Why am I “supporting” Jerry if I’m not commemorating the “worst day in Cowboy history”?

Why so serious? I’m chuckling, Captain Righteous!

Yes , I am. And laugh all you want. I take my Cowboys football as serious as other more public issues I’ve marched on. Sorry, if that doesn’t interest you. I don’t expect everyone to be as convicted.

 

[Diehardblues]

Gregg, they're really not arguing with you. It's like Reid calling me out for hammering Booger, some posters just get tired of it. They end up disagreeing in hopes of getting you, or me, to back off of it.

It's like all of us are in this lifeboat. Been there for 26 years, no land in sight and you keep saying "I'm hungry, I'm thirsty". We all are but continuing to say it doesn't make it any better.

That's why I chose the path of acceptance and him running it doesn't bother me nearly as much as him running his mouth but I try my best to avoid that.

This is one of this applications to the "change the things I can and accept the things I can't and recognize the difference".

You and I are not really aligned on this as you do not like the man running it; I do not like the man.

They should know after 15 years it’s not going to deter me. If anything it fuels the fire.

If anything you’d think they’d just roll their eyes, turn their heads and hope my thread falls off the page.

But there’s something that riles them up . I think part of it is they aren’t as passionate and despise those that are more serious and some actually in this thread have defended him which is a reminder that the effort must carry on.

I can only assume that the message hits the heart of the matter with real substance or they would just laugh and ignore. Because what they’re doing isn’t going to bring it to an end.

 

[kskboys]

And I’m not even fighting! I’m chuckling most of the time I’m typing. Some folks take themselves too seriously! Why is everything so serious, so “either or”?

Yup, you are simply enjoying pulling his strings!!!!!! Cracks me up!!!! And Greg is taking it as a reason to defend and keep on keeping on!!!!! From a distance it's purdy dammmm funny!!!!!

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Feb 25th 1989 I still so vividly recall watching on WFAA local Channel 8. The day everything changed in Cowboys history.

“In the last three decades the Cowboys have returned to the top of the National Football League as the shiniest star of the bunch for marketing purposes. Early on in Jerry’s ownership, they also returned to the top of the league from a competition standpoint as they won three Super Bowls in the first seven years, but ever since then things have been tough sledding.

There is no denying the financial impact that Jerry Jones has had on the Dallas Cowboys, surrounding DFW areas, and even the NFL as a whole. He is in the Pro Football Hall of Fame as an owner. His work on issues outside of the field helped him get there, like the influence he had in returning the league to Los Angeles where the hometown Rams just won the Super Bowl. The Rams played that game in the very palace that was built for them, one that was no doubt inspired by Jerry’s luxurious AT&T Stadium.

All of that is great and notable and makes for interesting books and documentaries. Unfortunately, the thing that matters to most fans is the success of the team on the field, and everything else has started to become frustrating as the team hasn’t appeared in a conference championship game in 26 years.

Think about that. The first seven years with Jerry at the helm as owner, general manager, and president were tons of success. But in the 26 years since, 79% of Jerry’s ownership, have been frustration, drama, and some success, but more of the first two.“

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nf...ry-jones-bought-the-dallas-cowboys/ar-AAUjX48

indeed it was a sad day. I know now how the cub fans feel.

 

[Diehardblues]

Yup, you are simply enjoying pulling his strings!!!!!! Cracks me up!!!! And Greg is taking it as a reason to defend and keep on keeping on!!!!! From a distance it's purdy dammmm funny!!!!!

I really should know better than to take a casual fan serious who hasn’t even been to a Cowboy game and probably never been to Dallas.

They have no idea how serious we take our football here. Thankfully most of the locals here get it.

I try to be professional and not get personal but then they attack me. Something I’ve never experienced anywhere else from Cowboy fans.

 

[DallasEast]

All fans are always in the same boat. Some may feel they are in first-class cabins. Others may think they are staying in economy class. A few might even see themselves huddling inside latched lifeboats but they are all still ON the ship.

There is a continual, decades long ineffective redundancy with some fans accusing other fans of not fixing the problem in Dallas. Namely, some fans repeatedly accuse other fans they are the reason Jerry Jones keeps sailing the franchise like the Titanic. They support Jones financially, so they are the problem.

Meanwhile, some fans never attempt to successfully solve the problem themselves. Oh, there have been ill-conceived, minor attempts that failed but that is it. A billboard or two here. A personal seat licensing boycott there. A poorly tracked anti-Jones devoted website over there. Yada yada yada. That's it.

Some fans could take personal responsibility and devote time-and-energy towards real-life organizing of hundreds of thousands or perhaps millions of fellow fans. Some fans could conduct weekly or even daily letter/email campaigns directed at major television and radio advertisers like Ford, Pepsi, Subway, Budweiser, etc. Some fans could inspire fans attending home games by picketing outside ATT Stadium. Some fans could try small yet highly visible protests like attending the NFL Draft and YELLING anti-Jones as GM sentiment during Cowboys' selections (Rich Eisen would eat that up). True imagination is limitless and can be and has proven effective in inducing managerial change for hundreds of years.

Or

Some fans can just keep on complaining other fans are the problem.

Yeah. That'll do the trick. Some day. Finger-pointing never ever solves many problems, does it?

/rant

 

[ESisback]

They should know after 15 years it’s not going to deter me. If anything it fuels the fire.

If anything you’d think they’d just roll their eyes, turn their heads and hope my thread falls off the page.

But there’s something that riles them up . I think part of it is they aren’t as passionate and despise those that are more serious and some actually in this thread have defended him which is a reminder that the effort must carry on.

I can only assume that the message hits the heart of the matter with real substance or they would just laugh and ignore. Because what they’re doing isn’t going to bring it to an end.

But we ARE as passionate—just more able to “accept what we cannot change.”

 

[CouchCoach]

I really should know better than to take a casual fan serious who hasn’t even been to a Cowboy game and probably never been to Dallas.

They have no idea how serious we take our football here. Thankfully most of the locals here get it.

I try to be professional and not get personal but then they attack me. Something I’ve never experienced anywhere else from Cowboy fans.

Well, here we are again, calling fans out because they haven't been to a game or Dallas.

And let me take a shot on their behalf. You have no idea, absolutely none, what it is like to be a fan living in enemy territory. But I do and that was only for 3 years in PA but calling fans "casual" based on your own criteria is wrong.

I don't care how many times anyone has been to Dallas, overrated if you ask me and I lived there for 28 years, or even been to a game, that is not the litmus test for being a fan, casual or otherwise.

And because others do not obsess over this owner or team doesn't make them less of a fan.

The fans I really respect here the most are those in other cities, they chose this team. This isn't a choice because it's local. Fans in the East areas are the true diehards.

 

[Captain-Crash]

To be fair Garrett did teach Dak one important thing

well he can't throw, might as well learn how to clap

 

[ESisback]

I really should know better than to take a casual fan serious who hasn’t even been to a Cowboy game and probably never been to Dallas.

They have no idea how serious we take our football here. Thankfully most of the locals here get it.

I try to be professional and not get personal but then they attack me. Something I’ve never experienced anywhere else from Cowboy fans.

There’s that condescending “casual fan” thing again. You assume they’ve never been to a game because they don’t constantly deploy torches and pitch folks? Not from the area? Not a real fan! That’s funny!

Try being a loyal fan after 26 years of futility, surrounded on all sides by slobbering fools! Drunken, hateful Eagle fans, Deadskins, Giants, Steelers, Bills, etc.—ALL placing Dallas and their fans #1 on their Fecal List. Snark, smacktalk, comedic memes, etc., etc. You have no idea! I could write a book!

 

[Diehardblues]

Well, here we are again, calling fans out because they haven't been to a game or Dallas.

And let me take a shot on their behalf. You have no idea, absolutely none, what it is like to be a fan living in enemy territory. But I do and that was only for 3 years in PA but calling fans "casual" based on your own criteria is wrong.

I don't care how many times anyone has been to Dallas, overrated if you ask me and I lived there for 28 years, or even been to a game, that is not the litmus test for being a fan, casual or otherwise.

And because others do not obsess over this owner or team doesn't make them less of a fan.

The fans I really respect here the most are those in other cities, they chose this team. This isn't a choice because it's local. Fans in the East areas are the true diehards.

They fired the first shots laughing at me throwing insults and snide remarks around . Am I not able to fire back?

I thought we were able to attack and critique any part of Cowboys football without taking personal insults and attacks ?

 

[Diehardblues]

There’s that condescending “casual fan” thing again. You assume they’ve never been to a game because they don’t constantly deploy torches and pitch folks? Not from the area? Not a real fan! That’s funny!

Try being a loyal fan after 26 years of futility, surrounded on all sides by slobbering fools! Drunken, hateful Eagle fans, Deadskins, Giants, Steelers, Bills, etc.—ALL placing Dallas and their fans #1 on their Fecal List. Snark, smacktalk, comedic memes, etc., etc. You have no idea! I could write a book!

Y’all can throw out the attacks and insults to fans but you can’t take the return fire.

 

[ESisback]

Well, here we are again, calling fans out because they haven't been to a game or Dallas.

And let me take a shot on their behalf. You have no idea, absolutely none, what it is like to be a fan living in enemy territory. But I do and that was only for 3 years in PA but calling fans "casual" based on your own criteria is wrong.

I don't care how many times anyone has been to Dallas, overrated if you ask me and I lived there for 28 years, or even been to a game, that is not the litmus test for being a fan, casual or otherwise.

And because others do not obsess over this owner or team doesn't make them less of a fan.

The fans I really respect here the most are those in other cities, they chose this team. This isn't a choice because it's local. Fans in the East areas are the true diehards.

Amen. You know. You’ve been both.

 

[ESisback]

Y’all can throw out the attacks and insults to fans but you can’t take the return fire.

Saying you’re using a condescending tone qualifies as an attack? You use “Homer” as an acceptable label, but “Realist Eeyore” in reply is offensive and unwarranted?

 

[KJJ]

Since the 90s Cowboys only the Patriots have been more successful. You have fans on this board that would trade in all three of those championships in the 90s for more playoff and SB opportunities the past 26 years. No way would I do that.

 

[ESisback]

You started in on me first in this thread. Eat it if you don’t like my message.

Eat it? Sausage? Hamburger? Cake? I like lasagna! Started on you? You mean I DARED to disagree?

 

[terra]

Since the 90s Cowboys only the Patriots have been more successful. You have fans on this board that would trade in all three of those championships in the 90s for more playoff and SB opportunities the past 26 years. No way would I do that.

What is sad is those that think success 26 years ago insulates Jerry from criticism today.

 

[KJJ]

What is sad is those that think success 26 years ago insulates Jerry from criticism today.

What’s sad is many fans discount those three championships in the 90s and act like his entire tenure as the owner has been a failure. Just look at the title of this thread. The OP is claiming this was the worst day in Cowboys history when it led to three championships in four years. Obviously a lot of Cowboys fans weren’t around back then or weren’t old enough to follow football and enjoy the success. All they know is the disappointments under Jerry. Jerry is in the Hall of Fame and the very first coach he hired is in the Hall of Fame with him along with several players they drafted. The reason the last 26 years has been such a disappointment is because Jerry set the bar very high with the success the team had the first 7 years. Only New England has gone on to accomplish more than the Cowboys did those years.