Are some of you mad at how we are building the team through the draft?

[America's Cowboy]

You think how you're told to think.

You get upset at others that are capable of being critical of this organization and the decisions it makes because you wish you could do that, but you're in too deep with this character you've chosen to play on this message board.

You're on here telling others to "be patient" after 26 years of nothing like a good servant.

I too judge according to the past and what I see, but you're the one that sparked up a conversation with me because of my thoughts. I didn't start this dialogue with you, because I know where you stand when it comes to this organization, so I ignored you and your blind support. You showed that you're the one that couldn't handle it, not me.

Making up more stories, eh? Sadly, that's your shtick. You can't win on facts, so you've got to make up lies and false accusations. Sad.

 

[Pass2Run]

That's fine.

I have no issues with that.

I said what I said and left it at that. AC was the one that decided to comment on what I had to say, not the other way around.

If it's negative to point out flaws in this organization, or somehow makes me seem like I'm less of a fan, then so be it.

I think we all sort of realize the flaws.

But in some ways, I can appreciate the flaws and I can see how, after 26 years, or whatever, that negative can be a positive. Eventually, Jerry and Stephen are bound to learn the things they need to learn along the way. Because making mistakes is really the best way to learn, sometimes. And Lord knows they've made their fair share.

 

[ESisback]

Some teams lean heavily on the draft. Some lean heavily on FA. We need a “happy medium”, although I suspect some would gripe regardless. Personally, I’d vote for the a FA move in the trenches.

 

[Pass2Run]

I love that we are building through the draft ..... But I want us to fill holes in free agency, so yes you are the exactly right.

My biggest pet peeve, at this point, is making trades involving our draft picks. Because we're trading away unknowns for a known quantity that is usually beginning to decline by the time we get the player.

See Galloway, Owens, etc.

 

[Flamma]

Mad?

Why would I be mad?

We have a ton of cap space, and also have a pretty solid roster with our cap space.

That means we can sign guys like Parsons and Diggs in the future. We're able to sign guys who we build the team around.

I personally feel like Diggs is probably the most underrated Cowboy. To me, he's the kind of player you need to win Super Bowls.

I also love the way we picked up James Washington, quietly. He's going be quite the surprise, I suspect.

I like your optimism about Washington. I too think he may surprise people. But saving cap space now has nothing to do with Diggs and Parsons. It's a lot more boring than that. Any big cap hits they have won't be for several years from now. They're saving it so they don't have to restructure Dak again. If a team saves cap space, it's usually for the next season.

 

[Pass2Run]

If some of you can blindly clap like a seal over everything then some of us can expect better than what we're getting.

We all fan in different ways.

I definitely don't blindly clap. I was really down on Dak as a fan after the playoff game, even though I've generally been a fan of his. Even after he took the spot from my all-time favorite player, Tony Romo.

But I had to go back and watch the game. And when I did that, objectively, I found that it really wasn't all Dak's fault. There were some other issues going on out there that were out of his control. And we were in position to win until those final seconds.

So, I see last year as a success, given we built our team into a legitimate contender. And I do think we'll be legitimate contenders this year.

I'm also glad we let go some of our high-priced players rather than breaking the bank to sign them.

Then, we quietly picked up a FA and did well in the draft.

Free agency still isn't over, and we still have plenty of time before the trade deadline.

So we shall see. Some people are acting like we've done all we're going to do.

That may be the case. Then again, it may not be.

 

[CowboyinMD]

My main concerns involve the front office personnel, not who or how they aqcuire talent. Everything after who manages the team is merely a symptom; I'd rather treat the issue at it's root.

Then you folks are going to be spinning that web over and over again until Jerry's dead, then keep spinning that web until Stephen and the whole Jones family no longer own the Cowboys.

This is the Cowboys way with the Joneses in charge. Yeah, a bit unconventional, maybe at times dysfunctional. But I have seen things over the years that give me hope, after the Dave Campo failure, and draft failures of the late '90s and early 2000s. Starting with bringing in BP in 2003. 2007 was his team, a #1 NFC seed that didn't get it done. Can't blame the Joneses for that playoff loss vs. the Giants.

2009 and 2014-- more divisional round losses. Again, do we blame the Joneses for the performance on the field? How about 2016 -- another #1 seed that blew it when it mattered? Didn't blow it all year until the end. That's on the players and coaches, and yes the owners bring in those folks, but if you told the owners that their team would be the #1 seed in the conference going in, wouldn't you sign up for that?

27 years of futility yes, but it's not like Dallas hasn't had chances. But back to my original comment, the owners aren't going to change philosophies, at least not overnight. We can follow other teams if we want. Hell, I live in the Baltimore 'burbs -- a perfect, gift-wrapped excuse to switch allegiance to the Ravens and their "stellar" front office.

And yet here I am. Why? The two Fs -- fandom and faith. Otherwise why would any of us be here?

 

[Pass2Run]

I like your optimism about Washington. I too think he may surprise people. But saving cap space now has nothing to do with Diggs and Parsons. It's a lot more boring than that. Any big cap hits they have won't be for several years from now. They're saving it so they don't have to restructure Dak again. If a team saves cap space, it's usually for the next season.

Ah, I see.

I'm definitely no cap expert. But I do appreciate the fact that we have cap space right now, even though I really don't understand it all. lol

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

I definitely don't blindly clap. I was really down on Dak as a fan after the playoff game, even though I've generally been a fan of his. Even after he took the spot from my all-time favorite player, Tony Romo.

But I had to go back and watch the game. And when I did that, objectively, I found that it really wasn't all Dak's fault. There were some other issues going on out there that were out of his control. And we were in position to win until those final seconds.

So, I see last year as a success, given we built our team into a legitimate contender. And I do think we'll be legitimate contenders this year.

I'm also glad we let go some of our high-priced players rather than breaking the bank to sign them.

Then, we quietly picked up a FA and did well in the draft.

Free agency still isn't over, and we still have plenty of time before the trade deadline.

So we shall see. Some people are acting like we've done all we're going to do.

That may be the case. Then again, it may not be.

Hey, that's fine, that's your opinions and I'm cool with it as long as your cool with mine in return.

I don't really agree with anything you said, but I won't come down on you for it.

I believe we are an 8 or 9 win team (I predicted 8-9), a 2nd place finish in the division, MAYBE the playoffs but an easy Wild Card win for somebody.

I really can't see anymore than that with this roster. Maybe you think better, maybe not. Maybe you're right and I'm wrong. We'll see.

 

[Pass2Run]

Then you folks are going to be spinning that web over and over again until Jerry's dead, then keep spinning that web until Stephen and the whole Jones family no longer own the Cowboys.

This is the Cowboys way with the Joneses in charge. Yeah, a bit unconventional, maybe at times dysfunctional. But I have seen things over the years that give me hope, after the Dave Campo failure, and draft failures of the late '90s and early 2000s. Starting with bringing in BP in 2003. 2007 was his team, a #1 NFC seed that didn't get it done. Can't blame the Joneses for that playoff loss vs. the Giants.

2009 and 2014-- more divisional round losses. Again, do we blame the Joneses for the performance on the field? How about 2016 -- another #1 seed that blew it when it mattered? Didn't blow it all year until the end. That's on the players and coaches, and yes the owners bring in those folks, but if you told the owners that their team would be the #1 seed in the conference going in, wouldn't you sign up for that?

27 years of futility yes, but it's not like Dallas hasn't had chances. But back to my original comment, the owners aren't going to change philosophies, at least not overnight. We can follow other teams if we want. Hell, I live in the Baltimore 'burbs -- a perfect, gift-wrapped excuse to switch allegiance to the Ravens and their "stellar" front office.

And yet here I am. Why? The two Fs -- fandom and faith. Otherwise why would any of us be here?

I love this post.

 

[Flamma]

Exactly.

It happens to bug me that they get in front of the media with smug looks on their face at how it's a proven formula and they are doing such a great job.

I dont pretend to have the answers, and I'm not saying that high priced free agents ARE the answer, but, most people would at least change for change sake when something doesn't work over a very large sample size.

Yeah, it bothers me because this off season, although not terrible, it's not a legit attempt to build off of last season. Similar to 2016. You can't come off that great season, do nothing, and expect to win a championship. That's not going to happen. Similar to this year. We may still be good, but no attempt was made to win a championship. Dallas may luck into it. Defense is looking good. If some rookies or 2nd year players have a great year or break out, it could happen. I just wouldn't bet on it.

 

[Pass2Run]

Hey, that's fine, that's your opinions and I'm cool with it as long as your cool with mine in return.

I don't really agree with anything you said, but I won't come down on you for it.

I believe we are an 8 or 9 win team (I predicted 8-9), a 2nd place finish in the division, MAYBE the playoffs but an easy Wild Card win for somebody.

I really can't see anymore than that with this roster. Maybe you think better, maybe not. Maybe you're right and I'm wrong. We'll see.

I'm totally cool with it.

I generally don't take opinions that differ from mine personally, unless someone makes it personal.. Even then, I don't really take it personally.

I think we win the NFC East, again. I'm predicting another 11-12 wins this year.

Our defense is legit.

It'll be even better this year, imo.

 

[America's Cowboy]

I definitely don't blindly clap. I was really down on Dak as a fan after the playoff game, even though I've generally been a fan of his. Even after he took the spot from my all-time favorite player, Tony Romo.

But I had to go back and watch the game. And when I did that, objectively, I found that it really wasn't all Dak's fault. There were some other issues going on out there that were out of his control. And we were in position to win until those final seconds.

So, I see last year as a success, given we built our team into a legitimate contender. And I do think we'll be legitimate contenders this year.

I'm also glad we let go some of our high-priced players rather than breaking the bank to sign them.

Then, we quietly picked up a FA and did well in the draft.

Free agency still isn't over, and we still have plenty of time before the trade deadline.

So we shall see. Some people are acting like we've done all we're going to do.

That may be the case. Then again, it may not be.

 

[Flamma]

I wished they could have signed Wagner, but I am not concerned that they didn't.

I know. I'm not bent either. I'm just saying they could show some effort. Dallas has to get lucky if they're counting on the draft to win a championship.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

I'm totally cool with it.

I generally don't take opinions that differ from mine personally, unless someone makes it personal.. Even then, I don't really take it personally.

I think we win the NFC East, again. I'm predicting another 11-12 wins this year.

Our defense is legit.

It'll be even better this year, imo.

I hope you're right.

I tend to be more on the side of thinking with my brain instead of my heart when it comes to my sports opinions.

 

[America's Cowboy]

Then you folks are going to be spinning that web over and over again until Jerry's dead, then keep spinning that web until Stephen and the whole Jones family no longer own the Cowboys.

This is the Cowboys way with the Joneses in charge. Yeah, a bit unconventional, maybe at times dysfunctional. But I have seen things over the years that give me hope, after the Dave Campo failure, and draft failures of the late '90s and early 2000s. Starting with bringing in BP in 2003. 2007 was his team, a #1 NFC seed that didn't get it done. Can't blame the Joneses for that playoff loss vs. the Giants.

2009 and 2014-- more divisional round losses. Again, do we blame the Joneses for the performance on the field? How about 2016 -- another #1 seed that blew it when it mattered? Didn't blow it all year until the end. That's on the players and coaches, and yes the owners bring in those folks, but if you told the owners that their team would be the #1 seed in the conference going in, wouldn't you sign up for that?

27 years of futility yes, but it's not like Dallas hasn't had chances. But back to my original comment, the owners aren't going to change philosophies, at least not overnight. We can follow other teams if we want. Hell, I live in the Baltimore 'burbs -- a perfect, gift-wrapped excuse to switch allegiance to the Ravens and their "stellar" front office.

And yet here I am. Why? The two Fs -- fandom and faith. Otherwise why would any of us be here?

 

[Pass2Run]

Yeah, it bothers me because this off season, although not terrible, it's not a legit attempt to build off of last season. Similar to 2016. You can't come off that great season, do nothing, and expect to win a championship. That's not going to happen. Similar to this year. We may still be good, but no attempt was made to win a championship. Dallas may luck into it. Defense is looking good. If some rookies or 2nd year players have a great year or break out, it could happen. I just wouldn't bet on it.

I saw a lot of things from our 2021 draft class last year that really makes me think they'll make an even bigger impact this year.

Joseph, Odighizuwa, Gholston, Cox, etc.

I think the team sort of stashed KJ last year..

I liked how KJ got tossed in the Raiders game, because he was shutting down the WR who got frustrated and decided to pick a fight with him.

Then, this year's draft class also looks promising. As far as I can tell, they really did their homework, again.

 

[Pass2Run]

I hope you're right.

I tend to be more on the side of thinking with my brain instead of my heart when it comes to my sports opinions.

I think with my head too. I like to play armchair scout, and armchair coach, etc. But I did grow up around a professional scout. Although he was a MLB scout, his son was my best friend and next door neighbor growing up. He would have played in the NFL had it not been for a head injury. But I learned a lot from being friends with those guys.

I'm not saying I'm any sort of scout myself, but I do like to watch film and evaluate players and I've been pretty decent at it over the years. This year, I had enough time to pay attention to the draft, and I just honestly felt like they did a good job.

I admit it. I'm biased as a fan. But even when I look at it objectively, I can't criticize much they did in the draft. I had my own pet cats, but I can see why they did what they did.

Also, I wouldn't come here if everyone just agreed.

You're fine with me if you disagree or even if you want to be negative.

I'm just telling you why some of us choose to be positive, even though we haven't won the big game in 26 years.

 

[Flamma]

Ah, I see.

I'm definitely no cap expert. But I do appreciate the fact that we have cap space right now, even though I really don't understand it all. lol

I only started paying attention to it around 2016- 2017. I think it was less stressful when I didn't. But at least you're not taken by surprise when the team doesn't pay someone you thought they needed to keep. You can see why.

 

[Doomsday101]

If some of you can blindly clap like a seal over everything then some of us can expect better than what we're getting.

We all fan in different ways.

some of us do not blindly follow Jerry some of us actually look at the play of the team and the players. I will maintain I think this team has the talent to compete, not based on anything Jerry says but by watching these players play the game. Do we have weakness or areas of concern? sure every team does. My expectation is for this team to build off last season, does not mean they must do better than 12-5, they could 11-6 and advance in post season and that is a major improvement. If they fail then you bet I will be disappointed.

As for off season reports like Zeke looking good, yeah I'm glad to hear that but in the end regardless of how he looks right now the bottom line is he has to produce during the season. That goes for every player, I like seeing guys showing positives during the off season but in the end only thing that matter is they bring in on game day