News: ESPN: Source: Browns QB Watson suspended 6 games

Aerolithe_Lion

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Tom Brady was suspended only 2 less games for maybe knowing that a football was not fully inflated.

If this suspension does not get extended that means the NFL will accept that there's only a 2 game difference between 20+ assault allegations and and an deflated football allegation.

Brady was suspended for interfering with an investigation. They found it inconclusive whether or not he knowingly deflated the footballs
 

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You would have to ask her. Anyone can sue anyone for anything. Suing someone doesnt mean they did it.

True, but I mean, the fact that she didn't sue, and the fact that the leagues investigator thought she wasn't credible leads to questions as to the validity of the case. Topping that off with the league's team also recommending no suspension for Zeke is more of a reason why I think a lot of fans here, myself included, are upset about this decision along with Zeke's suspension. If she was credible, then sure, I think we'd have understood that Zeke was in the wrong and that the suspension was valid. The problem is that they suspended him despite the above points.
 

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Kinda weak. Well inconsistent as all. NFL not really having a strong system and protocol for this disciplinary action entail.
uhmmm.... thats why this NEW POLICY WAS PUT IN PLACE.... damn. Do you guys have a clue about what just took place with an ARBITRATOR?
 

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True, but I mean, the fact that she didn't sue, and the fact that the leagues investigator thought she wasn't credible leads to questions as to the validity of the case. Topping that off with the league's team also recommending no suspension for Zeke is more of a reason why I think a lot of fans here, myself included, are upset about this decision along with Zeke's suspension. If she was credible, then sure, I think we'd have understood that Zeke was in the wrong and that the suspension was valid. The problem is that they suspended him despite the above points.

The leagues team didnt find her credible? That makes no sense. It was the police that didnt think there was enough evidence to convict so they didnt press charges. Her word against his.

The league obviously found her somewhat credible as they suspended Zeke.
 

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If the NFL does not appeal it (to themselves) that is a very bad look. Even the decision where the excuse for the suspension only being 6 is that the 24 allegations are "non violent sexual assault" is probably the single dumbest sentence I ever seen a professional attempt to type to justify their actions. The NFL basically knows it has to appeal this which given that there was any suspension they can and if they do he will be out the year as expected.
first off, not 24... but 5. Secondly, because you dont pay attention nor have you read the personal conduct policy, there is a very specific reason the words NON VIOLENT were used. In legal issues (make no mistake this was a legal issue.... the personal conduct code is the NFL's equivalent to the criminal code) actual terminology that is spelled out in the CBA matters... thus why NON VIOLENT matters.
 

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uhmmm.... thats why this NEW POLICY WAS PUT IN PLACE.... damn. Do you guys have a clue about what just took place with an ARBITRATOR?
No, the moral police will absolutely not look at facts.
 

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uhmmm.... thats why this NEW POLICY WAS PUT IN PLACE.... damn. Do you guys have a clue about what just took place with an ARBITRATOR?

No. They want their pound of flesh and want to whine about being a "victim" at the same time. Two of the more glowing aspects of human nature, I tells ya.
 

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6 games too much....the guy is a joke. If I was him I'd throw a party.
you just dont understand how this works. Why do you think they were threatening to sue if he got a year suspension? its called posturing. They now say its too long to make it like they are unhappy PUBLICLY because they know the league can still appeal. What do you expect them to say right now?? Come out, hold a press conference all giddy and say yea babay... not only did we get the games we wanted, but the fine is only 345k..... screw you Roger!!!! Now cmon Deshawn, lets go celebrate.....smh
 

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Yeah, try telling that to fans of other teams lol. I just got blasted for it, but it's true! This is another example of it.
Seeing how this decision was from an independent arbitrator and NOT ROGER GOODELL, this is proof of nothing.
 

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The leagues team didnt find her credible? That makes no sense. It was the police that didnt think there was enough evidence to convict so they didnt press charges. Her word against his.

The league obviously found her somewhat credible as they suspended Zeke.

https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/ww...ase-reportedly-recommended-no-suspension/amp/

According to the Fort Worth Star-Telegram, NFL lead investigator Kia Roberts testified this week that she recommended that Elliott not be suspended for his alleged domestic violence incidence.

"Not only did Roberts play a key role in the Elliott case, but she was the only NFL employee who spoke to Elliott's accuser, Tiffany Thompson, during the 13-month investigation.
However, Roberts, who was the only person to speak with Thompson, pointed out during her testimony during the appeal this week that she was never consulted about Elliott's suspension or even asked to make a recommendation, which would have been zero games" this looks to me like the investigator didn't agree with suspending Zeke. She was the only one who met with the accuser from the league office. If what you're saying is true, then why didn't more people meet with the accuser? What was the point of sending her to meet with the accuser if they were just going to suspend Zeke anyway?
 

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Michael Vick was suspended indefinitely for what he did but it turned out to be only 4 games for which he was eligible. Most of his suspension took place while he was in prison.
 

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And Rose merely bet on his own team to win, which he couldn’t control, except by trying to win on the field like anyone else! Someone disliked Rose and blackballed him, and it became a generational tradition by spiteful league officials. Watson commits a crime and gets 6 games?!? Beyond farce!
Rose committed a huge infraction that affects the integrity of the game. Watson is merely a pervert. Not even in the same galaxy.
 

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And Rose merely bet on his own team to win, which he couldn’t control, except by trying to win on the field like anyone else! Someone disliked Rose and blackballed him, and it became a generational tradition by spiteful league officials. Watson commits a crime and gets 6 games?!? Beyond farce!

2 things... 1, Rose should be back in baseball and in the HOF. But you are incprrect. In naseball, teams manage pitching rotations based upon playing a long season. If I got 150k on a game, maybe I alter that to try to win today and screw tomorrow.... dont bet on games no matter what.

2nd, Watson committed a crime in your eyes, not in the eyes of any prosecutor or any grand jury as they never charged him. End of that discussion.
 

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Seeing how this decision was from an independent arbitrator and NOT ROGER GOODELL, this is proof of nothing.

Other than Zeke shouldn't have been suspended as there were significant questions of credibility against the accuser in that case. I'm aware Goodell didn't make this decision. However, my objection is that the suspension for Zeke stood despite the only person from the league office, according to https://www.___GET_REAL_URL___/s/www.cb...ase-reportedly-recommended-no-suspension/amp/, to meet with the accuser recommending no suspension for Zeke.
 

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Yeah, didn't he throw his cell phone away or something like that?

He destroyed it, and then claimed he’s so famous he does it with all his electronic devices for fear of identity theft. Plausible, but timing was suspicious
 
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