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I just started watching House of the Dragon on HBO. I was waiting to binge watch it but decided to watch the first 4 episodes now.

It's okay. It is not Game of Thrones. I can see they tried to make it like GoT but GoT had multiple storylines going at once which kept it interesting all the time. House of the Dragon drags at times. The characters are not nearly as interesting. It looks more like a depiction of old English history with the usual palace intrigue - and dragons.

The dragons looks different in House of the Dragons than they did in GoT. The GoT dragons looked a little more fierce and not so skinny.

The GoT cast was exceptional. There are some clear misfit in the cast of House of the Dragons. For one, Matt Smith, who was a great fit as Prince Philip in The Crown, is not a good Daemon. He sounds like he takes a puff of helium before he recites his lines which detracts from the character he is supposed to be.

I am enjoying the series but nowhere near as much as I enjoyed GoT from the very first episode. I will keep watching but House of the Dragon needs to pick up some steam in a hurry to avoid becoming ordinary.
 

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I have never understood why they create prequel movies and TV shows. I have never watched any prequel and thought, "This is way better than the original."

I am not saying they are never good, just that they are never as good as their original shows.

They should focus on sequels more than prequels. With prequels, everyone knows what happens, they just do not know how it happens.

With sequels, you have no idea what will happen and the original writers and directors have a chance to tell a new story and perhaps do things they wished they had done in the original story without the limitations inflicted by the original story.

A Game of Thrones sequel would have likely been a great story and would have been a great way to make up for the failures of season 8 from the original show.

I have not watched House of the Dragon and probably will not any time soon, but I already know what happened, just not how it happened. If it were a sequel, I would have no idea what will happen.
 

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I have never understood why they create prequel movies and TV shows. I have never watched any prequel and thought, "This is way better than the original."

I am not saying they are never good, just that they are never as good as their original shows.

They should focus on sequels more than prequels. With prequels, everyone knows what happens, they just do not know how it happens.

With sequels, you have no idea what will happen and the original writers and directors have a chance to tell a new story and perhaps do things they wished they had done in the original story without the limitations inflicted by the original story.

A Game of Thrones sequel would have likely been a great story and would have been a great way to make up for the failures of season 8 from the original show.

I have not watched House of the Dragon and probably will not any time soon, but I already know what happened, just not how it happened. If it were a sequel, I would have no idea what will happen.

If you like a franchise, I feel prequels can be quite worthwhile. Star Wars is hit or miss with what they have done, but Rouge 1 & Clone Wars animated series were quite good. I liked Obi One, even with it's warts. Better call Saul is winning Emmys.

I have enjoyed House of the Dragon so far. Yes, you know what ultimately happens centuries later to totally different characters, but it's still a different story.
 

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I have never understood why they create prequel movies and TV shows. I have never watched any prequel and thought, "This is way better than the original."

I am not saying they are never good, just that they are never as good as their original shows.

They should focus on sequels more than prequels. With prequels, everyone knows what happens, they just do not know how it happens.

With sequels, you have no idea what will happen and the original writers and directors have a chance to tell a new story and perhaps do things they wished they had done in the original story without the limitations inflicted by the original story.

A Game of Thrones sequel would have likely been a great story and would have been a great way to make up for the failures of season 8 from the original show.

I have not watched House of the Dragon and probably will not any time soon, but I already know what happened, just not how it happened. If it were a sequel, I would have no idea what will happen.

House of the Dragon is pretty awesome, it might change your mind. I get what you’re saying, but in this case Westeros is very thick with history and you can probably make a great show no matter where it starts on the timeline at this point. And I believe there are others in the works. Spin-offs, sequels, prequels etc. there’s a wealth of entertainment in the 7 kingdoms.
 

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Is there a season 6 coming?
Yeah, I probably am getting ahead of myself. lol There has been no official announcement, but I have seen some articles floating around the internet that make it seem quite likely.
 

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If you like a franchise, I feel prequels can be quite worthwhile. Star Wars is hit or miss with what they have done, but Rouge 1 & Clone Wars animated series were quite good. I liked Obi One, even with it's warts. Better call Saul is winning Emmys.

I have enjoyed House of the Dragon so far. Yes, you know what ultimately happens centuries later to totally different characters, but it's still a different story.

As I said in my post, I am not saying they are never good. I am saying they are never better than their originals, while sequels can be. A lot of people like Better Call Saul, but I doubt many people think it is better than Breaking Bad, at least not when comparing each when they came out.

The main reason prequels will never be better than the originals is because you already know the eventual outcome before it starts.

In Game of Thrones for example, what made it exciting early on is the setting was brand new and key people kept dying regularly. In House of the Dragon, you know how the story ultimately ends.

It is why I never watched the Titanic movie. You knew it was going to hit an iceberg and sink and then most of those people on it were doing to die.

Prequels are essentially like a really long "flashback" episode that fills in the story gaps for the main (original) show.

I wish they would focus on sequels as they could open a a lot of new storylines and bring entertainment to a new generation of fans.

For example, I want a Star Wars sequel based long after the days of Luke, Obi-Wan, Yoda, Vader, Palpatine, etc. and their bloodlines are gone.

I want a Game of Thrones sequel set hundreds of years in the future where something like the White Walkers are the real threat to the world, not just an afterthought like they ended up in Game of Thrones.

I want a Star Trek sequel based long after the Enterprise eras of Archer, Pike, Kirk and Picard.

Shows like Star Trek Discovery, The Mandalorian, etc. are good shows, but I would still much rather watch shows based on known universes but with completely new storylines for a change.
 

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As I said in my post, I am not saying they are never good. I am saying they are never better than their originals, while sequels can be. A lot of people like Better Call Saul, but I doubt many people think it is better than Breaking Bad, at least not when comparing each when they came out.

The main reason prequels will never be better than the originals is because you already know the eventual outcome before it starts.

In Game of Thrones for example, what made it exciting early on is the setting was brand new and key people kept dying regularly. In House of the Dragon, you know how the story ultimately ends.

It is why I never watched the Titanic movie. You knew it was going to hit an iceberg and sink and then most of those people on it were doing to die.

Prequels are essentially like a really long "flashback" episode that fills in the story gaps for the main (original) show.

I wish they would focus on sequels as they could open a a lot of new storylines and bring entertainment to a new generation of fans.

For example, I want a Star Wars sequel based long after the days of Luke, Obi-Wan, Yoda, Vader, Palpatine, etc. and their bloodlines are gone.

I want a Game of Thrones sequel set hundreds of years in the future where something like the White Walkers are the real threat to the world, not just an afterthought like they ended up in Game of Thrones.

I want a Star Trek sequel based long after the Enterprise eras of Archer, Pike, Kirk and Picard.

Shows like Star Trek Discovery, The Mandalorian, etc. are good shows, but I would still much rather watch shows based in known universes but with completely new storylines for a change.

I'd say that the amount of sequels that are better than the original is probably close to the amount of prequels. I cannot think of many.

With House of Dragon, it's very likely that it will be better than the original because the original was not that great.
 

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I'd say that the amount of sequels that are better than the original is probably close to the amount of prequels. I cannot think of many.

With House of Dragon, it's very likely that it will be better than the original because the original was not that great.
I think most people will disagree with you saying that Game of Thrones was not that great. It ended poorly as they rushed to get done with it, no question about that, but prior to that it was well-received and liked.

I have never seen a prequel that was better than the original. I have seen several sequels that were better than the original show.

As I said before, I am not saying that prequels are never good. I have enjoyed a lot of shows and movies that were prequels, but never as much and definitely not more than the originals.

They are just hamstrung by the limits defined by the original movie/show and more so by the well-known eventual outcome.

To me that's no different than starting to a read a new book and someone says, "the main character dies as the end". It may be a great book, but now the story bookends (who and what) are defined leaving only the "how" left to learn.
 

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I have never understood why they create prequel movies and TV shows. I have never watched any prequel and thought, "This is way better than the original."

I am not saying they are never good, just that they are never as good as their original shows.

They should focus on sequels more than prequels. With prequels, everyone knows what happens, they just do not know how it happens.

With sequels, you have no idea what will happen and the original writers and directors have a chance to tell a new story and perhaps do things they wished they had done in the original story without the limitations inflicted by the original story.

A Game of Thrones sequel would have likely been a great story and would have been a great way to make up for the failures of season 8 from the original show.

I have not watched House of the Dragon and probably will not any time soon, but I already know what happened, just not how it happened. If it were a sequel, I would have no idea what will happen.
IMO, 1883, although only one season, is much better than Yellowstone. This is an exception to the "you already know what happened" premise you posed. During Yellowstone, you never heard much about their ancestors, and this prequel takes place more than a century prior, so it's a completely different show.

But as a rule, I have to agree with you.
 

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I have never understood why they create prequel movies and TV shows. I have never watched any prequel and thought, "This is way better than the original."

I am not saying they are never good, just that they are never as good as their original shows.

They should focus on sequels more than prequels. With prequels, everyone knows what happens, they just do not know how it happens.

With sequels, you have no idea what will happen and the original writers and directors have a chance to tell a new story and perhaps do things they wished they had done in the original story without the limitations inflicted by the original story.

A Game of Thrones sequel would have likely been a great story and would have been a great way to make up for the failures of season 8 from the original show.

I have not watched House of the Dragon and probably will not any time soon, but I already know what happened, just not how it happened. If it were a sequel, I would have no idea what will happen.
I was really hoping for the sequel based on Arya's adventures.
 

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As I said in my post, I am not saying they are never good. I am saying they are never better than their originals, while sequels can be. A lot of people like Better Call Saul, but I doubt many people think it is better than Breaking Bad, at least not when comparing each when they came out.

The main reason prequels will never be better than the originals is because you already know the eventual outcome before it starts.

In Game of Thrones for example, what made it exciting early on is the setting was brand new and key people kept dying regularly. In House of the Dragon, you know how the story ultimately ends.

It is why I never watched the Titanic movie. You knew it was going to hit an iceberg and sink and then most of those people on it were doing to die.

Prequels are essentially like a really long "flashback" episode that fills in the story gaps for the main (original) show.

I wish they would focus on sequels as they could open a a lot of new storylines and bring entertainment to a new generation of fans.

For example, I want a Star Wars sequel based long after the days of Luke, Obi-Wan, Yoda, Vader, Palpatine, etc. and their bloodlines are gone.

I want a Game of Thrones sequel set hundreds of years in the future where something like the White Walkers are the real threat to the world, not just an afterthought like they ended up in Game of Thrones.

I want a Star Trek sequel based long after the Enterprise eras of Archer, Pike, Kirk and Picard.

Shows like Star Trek Discovery, The Mandalorian, etc. are good shows, but I would still much rather watch shows based on known universes but with completely new storylines for a change.
Hey, HEYYYYYY! ...TITANIC SPOILERS! :muttley:
 

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As I said in my post, I am not saying they are never good. I am saying they are never better than their originals, while sequels can be. A lot of people like Better Call Saul, but I doubt many people think it is better than Breaking Bad, at least not when comparing each when they came out.

The main reason prequels will never be better than the originals is because you already know the eventual outcome before it starts.

In Game of Thrones for example, what made it exciting early on is the setting was brand new and key people kept dying regularly. In House of the Dragon, you know how the story ultimately ends.

It is why I never watched the Titanic movie. You knew it was going to hit an iceberg and sink and then most of those people on it were doing to die.

Prequels are essentially like a really long "flashback" episode that fills in the story gaps for the main (original) show.

I wish they would focus on sequels as they could open a a lot of new storylines and bring entertainment to a new generation of fans.

For example, I want a Star Wars sequel based long after the days of Luke, Obi-Wan, Yoda, Vader, Palpatine, etc. and their bloodlines are gone.

I want a Game of Thrones sequel set hundreds of years in the future where something like the White Walkers are the real threat to the world, not just an afterthought like they ended up in Game of Thrones.

I want a Star Trek sequel based long after the Enterprise eras of Archer, Pike, Kirk and Picard.

Shows like Star Trek Discovery, The Mandalorian, etc. are good shows, but I would still much rather watch shows based on known universes but with completely new storylines for a change.
How much farther into the future do you want to go than Discovery goes???;)

A prequel could also be good, if it opens the door to storylines that are separate from, but simultaneous with the original.
 
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How much farther into the future do you want to go than Discovery goes???;)
Sort of, but it is still the same crew just in a different time era which has been done many times in many scifi shows. I'm talking about new characters, new stories, etc. that are not stuck or tied to the original shows or their characters.

I like Spock, but now he or some variation of him has been in so many different Star Trek series and movies it does not really feel like it a new story but rather a continuation or rehash of the same strories over and over.

A prequel could also be good, if it opens the door to storylines that are separate from, but simultaneous with the original.
That is not a bad idea.
 

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I wish Hollyweird would create more original things instead of just relying on sequels and reboots. Not just movies, but TV as well.

As far as GoT goes, I've read all of the books, but haven't seen one minute of the TV show. I have a feeling I'd be disappointed in the TV show. You can do so much in books.
 

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I wish Hollyweird would create more original things instead of just relying on sequels and reboots. Not just movies, but TV as well.

As far as GoT goes, I've read all of the books, but haven't seen one minute of the TV show. I have a feeling I'd be disappointed in the TV show. You can do so much in books.

books are always better. In the case of GoT the books are unfinished so they veered away and I don’t think it’s what Martin would’ve done. They took it in their own direction and that’s kind of where things went south.
 

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think most people will disagree with you saying that Game of Thrones was not that great. It ended poorly as they rushed to get done with it, no question about that, but prior to that it was well-received and liked

I'll agree, but the last seasons ruined the series.
 
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