CFZ What Would You Have Done at WR?

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Ok c’mon it’s week 3 lol they’ve played 2 games. Nothing has been proven yet. There are still a ton of variables that decide who ends up the winner between the two parties:

Cooper is a top receiver in Cleveland. We have Matt Waletsko. Winner: Cleveland.

-Cooper has lit up plenty of September’s just to get banged up and balk in the cold as the season wears on.

He’s a proven top 10 receiver. No revisionist history here.

-Michael Gelken tweeted Gallup looks like his old self. If Gallup is back to his full self and stays healthy he has high-end WR2 ability and we’ve seen it (1,000 yard season in 2019).

Nothing proven yet. At all.

-If Ceedee does prove to be a viable WR1 or a 1A one 1B thing with Gallup they’ll definitely be effective. Lamb had 7 for 75 last game with a backup QB and a conservative as heck 2nd half game plan. We still don’t know who he is yet.

“If” is a very big, small word.

-Jalen Tolbert has 100% started slow no doubt. But we have to give guys a chance to before writing them off. He made a big step from South Alabama to the NFL. Time will tell on if he’s a player. If so, you’re at least 3 deep with quality WR’s (4 if you’re a Noah Brown guy lol).

I’m not minimizing Brown after last week.

In reality, it’s going to take a year or two before you actually know who made the out better here. There are ifs and variables that are gonna decide this thing over time.

I disagree. The Browns are winning NOW. They’re going for it. Are the Cowboys?
 

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I know you won't answer but please show me where I defended them? And I wouldn't be so quick to jump on those people that do because you support this team and are just as much part of the problem.

Sorry pal, just saw the last message and it sure seemed like you were a Jed defender. Sorry if I am mistaken, only going by what I read. I don't follow your posts but will keep an eye out. Always looking for a good bounty in the future. :)
 

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Cooper is a top receiver in Cleveland. We have Matt Waletsko. Winner: Cleveland.



He’s a proven top 10 receiver. No revisionist history here.



Nothing proven yet. At all.



“If” is a very big, small word.



I’m not minimizing Brown after last week.



I disagree. The Browns are winning NOW. They’re going for it. Are the Cowboys?
I think you echoed my post a few times lol. Nothing is proven at all. Won’t be for a year or two.
 

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You’d like to think so. That doesn’t make it so.
So you’re saying it’s all proven already? Time cannot make the results any different than they are now and the winner and loser of the trade has been decided despite it being week 3?

Because I thought you had the rational take that nothing is proven yet but I guess you meant something else by saying those exact words?

You can be as certain as you’d like but you can’t tell the future. It is entirely possible the team comes out just fine from that move. It’s also possible they won’t. But nothing is set in stone this early into it. I simply listed some variables that could change the narrative. Not sure what’s so controversial or why you’re so opposed to finding common ground lol.
 

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I’ve seen some outlandish reasoning for why the team should have kept the 3 WR’s together. Not sure if we understand how people build rosters but there’s no such thing as paying big deals to 3 WR’s. That just an insane way to allocate your cap funds.

Yes the vaccine and heart/passion issues were thrown around for Coop, but those were more as pros and cons for which WR to keep. The decision to only pay 2 guys moving forward was obvious, they just had to decide who.

The hope is Gallup is a good WR2 at half the cost of Cooper and Lamb steps into the WR1 role and gets the big bucks.

I’m not saying that will happen but the plan wasn’t crazy. Cooper playing well has nothing to do with it, we didn’t trade him due to not being able to play well.

You can’t keep all three once they get off rookie deals and you can’t pay two number 1’s (poor roster management) so you have only two options. A) Cooper and Gallup or B) Lamb and Gallup. Team chose B and it’s not an illogical one. Lamb is younger and was drafted by them. Coop is good but you know his highs. Lamb has the upside to maybe be more so they bet on that.

I know some (most) of us are prisoners of the moment so Coop’s stock is sky high right now while Lamb’s may not be. But by stepping back and looking at the two options outlined in the previous paragraph, what would y’all have done?

I think it was completely logical to bet on Ceedee your first round pick as we know what we have in Cooper.

they had 3 years left on both coopers deal (no guarantees) and lambs rookie deal. they had ample time to evaluate//groom lamb while keeping coop year to year. the fact that gallup is underrated and injuredmeans they could’ve absolutely hedged their bets and retained him as well under market with a rookie deal lamb and year to year coop as well. they bungled it the absolute worst way
 

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This is the thing. The Cowboys got rid of overpaid players who weren’t living up to their pay and who lacked dog in them. Started with Jaylon during the season……for Collins and Cooper out of here and refused to march Gregory. We needed drastic changes to this team and they went with the makeup….so what’s the issue?

I think the fact that Amari is going off so far this season is the issue.
 
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Maybe the reason is it was Dak's choice (or at least weighed heavily).

I'm beginning to consider what if they gave Dak some power to decide who he wants / doesn't want.

If you think about this while watching an interview with the GM on the Cooper topic, it seems like it could be the secret he's holding, like that's exactly how he'd act if this were the case.
 

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I mean I guess if you want to try to go all in for one year I get it. But I don’t think Cooper is the reason this team would make a run lol.

This bring a whole new debate though. With the current HC and OC plus no elite QB, the team’s identity shouldn’t even be one that needs 3 top-flight WR’s. We shouldn’t be throwing 35-40 times a game we’ve seen that already. Dak is like 25-1 in games where we rush for 100 yards.

I may be giving the FO too much credit but it seems like we’ve pivoted to a more balanced attack with a roadgrader in Tyler Smith. If that’s so, then letting Coop go makes even more sense. With this defense, if we have a balanced offense that allows Dak to be a play action guy then that’s our best chance of winning. Not slinging the ball around all year, we have already seen that story.

We’ll see if it works, but you can’t keep thinking we are gonna be the 2007 patriots and throw our way to a SB. At some point we need to go back to the philosophy that got us farthest in 2014/16.
The passing yardage leader has never won the super bowl.
 

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I would have franchised Amari instead of Dalton. I would have signed Dalton during the 2021 season before free agency. if not, I would have replaced Dalton with an available free agent or during the draft. Actually, I would have brought in at least two potential replacements for Dalton, most likely a veteran and a draft pick.

However, I would have definitely franchised Amari. This was the season to go for it all. The 2021 drafted players were starting their second season, the team was healthy overall, we knew this defense would rock. This was the season. There is no way I would have practically dumped Amari.

But we'll see. I have a feeling that Gallup is going to remind us that he is a WR too.

In 2019 Gallup had over 1100 yards on 66 receptions, he could legitimately be our #1.
 

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In 2019 Gallup had over 1100 yards on 66 receptions, he could legitimately be our #1.

Would be great, ready for a WR to have an amazing year w/o Amari in the mix. Hasn't happened since Dez and after when Cooper came to town. It's all "he's a stud" until then... Lots of talk. Until it happens, it is BS and they were all a product of Amari being on the field until further notice. Not seeing anything to prove otherwise yet. Let's see it!!
 
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I would’ve kept the ones under contract.

Cooper
Lamb
Brown

and probably re-signed Wilson 7 million a year was very doable IMO. Then would’ve drafted the best one day two. If it’s Tolbert so be it. I’m not stamping him as a bust yet.
 
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So you’re saying it’s all proven already? Time cannot make the results any different than they are now and the winner and loser of the trade has been decided despite it being week 3?

Because I thought you had the rational take that nothing is proven yet but I guess you meant something else by saying those exact words?

You can be as certain as you’d like but you can’t tell the future. It is entirely possible the team comes out just fine from that move. It’s also possible they won’t. But nothing is set in stone this early into it. I simply listed some variables that could change the narrative. Not sure what’s so controversial or why you’re so opposed to finding common ground lol.

I’m going by the information that we have. Now. While we’re discussing it.

If ‘things change’ we can discuss it then.
 

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Not true.

Or maybe I have it wrong.

But did it not go Gregory and Dallas agreed on a contract? IT was even reported as such. Then Gregory and his team looked at the language of the contract then declined the deal.....Cowboys had the chance to take the language out of the contract and declined?

Gregory's team didnt bother to have Jones take the language out, they just signed with Denver.
 

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Its been reported the team wanted to go into a different direction. When the hell has Jerry traded someone who hurt his feelings? Cut it out lol. That's not even Jerry's MO.

And I don't think Gallup has shown up more than Coop but Gallup isn't the ones who heart is in question. Two teams have questioned Coop's heart.

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I’ve seen some outlandish reasoning for why the team should have kept the 3 WR’s together. Not sure if we understand how people build rosters but there’s no such thing as paying big deals to 3 WR’s. That just an insane way to allocate your cap funds.

Yes the vaccine and heart/passion issues were thrown around for Coop, but those were more as pros and cons for which WR to keep. The decision to only pay 2 guys moving forward was obvious, they just had to decide who.

The hope is Gallup is a good WR2 at half the cost of Cooper and Lamb steps into the WR1 role and gets the big bucks.

I’m not saying that will happen but the plan wasn’t crazy. Cooper playing well has nothing to do with it, we didn’t trade him due to not being able to play well.

You can’t keep all three once they get off rookie deals and you can’t pay two number 1’s (poor roster management) so you have only two options. A) Cooper and Gallup or B) Lamb and Gallup. Team chose B and it’s not an illogical one. Lamb is younger and was drafted by them. Coop is good but you know his highs. Lamb has the upside to maybe be more so they bet on that.

I know some (most) of us are prisoners of the moment so Coop’s stock is sky high right now while Lamb’s may not be. But by stepping back and looking at the two options outlined in the previous paragraph, what would y’all have done?

I think it was completely logical to bet on Ceedee your first round pick as we know what we have in Cooper.
Keep cooper and resign ced Wilson.
 

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I wouldve been ok with Cooper going if we got more for him (during the draft) and kept Cedric. We did neither and it set the tone for the offseason.
 

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I’ve seen some outlandish reasoning for why the team should have kept the 3 WR’s together. Not sure if we understand how people build rosters but there’s no such thing as paying big deals to 3 WR’s. That just an insane way to allocate your cap funds.

Yes the vaccine and heart/passion issues were thrown around for Coop, but those were more as pros and cons for which WR to keep. The decision to only pay 2 guys moving forward was obvious, they just had to decide who.

The hope is Gallup is a good WR2 at half the cost of Cooper and Lamb steps into the WR1 role and gets the big bucks.

I’m not saying that will happen but the plan wasn’t crazy. Cooper playing well has nothing to do with it, we didn’t trade him due to not being able to play well.

You can’t keep all three once they get off rookie deals and you can’t pay two number 1’s (poor roster management) so you have only two options. A) Cooper and Gallup or B) Lamb and Gallup. Team chose B and it’s not an illogical one. Lamb is younger and was drafted by them. Coop is good but you know his highs. Lamb has the upside to maybe be more so they bet on that.

I know some (most) of us are prisoners of the moment so Coop’s stock is sky high right now while Lamb’s may not be. But by stepping back and looking at the two options outlined in the previous paragraph, what would y’all have done?

I think it was completely logical to bet on Ceedee your first round pick as we know what we have in Cooper.

Cooper and Lamb. Lamb is on his rookie contract, and Cooper had no more guaranteed money.

Cooper, Lamb, Brown, Pollard, Zeke.

Pay the *one* receiver who is arguably worth it.
 
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I'd firstly only let Coop go if I was being offered a first or two seconds. Then, I'd offer a deal for AJ Brown as I'd have extra picks to play with.
 

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I don't want to hear anything about the cap..
..it's funny money. If you want a guy...you can move money around and make it work. This was always about Dak...
And finding another fall guy for his playoff failures.

Cooper drew the short straw....
 
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