News: ESPN: Defamation suit against Cowboys' Jones tossed

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Jimmy Johnson
Jimmy wouldn’t have won those Super Bowls had Jerry not bought the team. And this isn’t some ringing endorsement of Jerry, but he does deserve credit for hiring Jimmy. That’s Jerry’s ONLY contribution to winning those Super Bowls. Almost 3 decades of results bears that out.
 

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Unfortunately, you'll never convince these guys that Jones on his own just isn't able to win a SB. The 90's are directly attributable to Jimmy Johnson. And, Jones doesn't seem to care.
Jerry hired Jimmy and had to sign off on every move Jimmy made. He deserves at least some credit for those teams. He hired the right man for the job and allowed him to make the moves necessary to build a great team that dominated the 90s. Some fans act like the organization has been crap ever since Jerry bought the team. I get that fans are frustrated at what’s been going on the past 28 years, but for some to say the Cowboys would’ve been a lot better off had someone else purchased the team is ridiculous. I had one fan tell me that he would give up the Cowboys three Super Bowl wins in the 90s just to have someone else running the team. :rolleyes: We’re all frustrated, but some are just blowing stupidity out of their butts. Just look around the league at what a few other teams are going through. What’s going on with the Cowboys isn’t nearly as bad as what it could be.
 

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Jerry hired Jimmy and had to sign off on every move Jimmy made. He deserves at least some credit for those teams. He hired the right man for the job and allowed him to make the moves necessary to build a great team that dominated the 90s. Some fans act like the organization has been crap ever since Jerry bought the team. I get that fans are frustrated at what’s been going on the past 28 years, but for some to say the Cowboys would’ve been a lot better off had someone else purchased the team is ridiculous. I had one fan tell me that he would give up the Cowboys three Super Bowl wins in the 90s just to have someone else running the team. :rolleyes: We’re all frustrated, but some are just blowing stupidity out of their butts. Just look around the league at what a few other teams are going through. What’s going on with the Cowboys isn’t nearly as bad as what it could be.
Your assessment that Jerry deserves credit for buying the team and thus is partially responsible for winning the 90's SBs is 100% accurate. It's his moves after the 90's that has many of us so disappointed. 28 years is a long time for an old fan.
 

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Lots of Jerry defenders on here

Unfortunately I was here before Jerry bought the team and I remember what this franchise used to be about. Sorry none of y’all do
I was here too. The franchise had become very stale - we were committed to a legendary coach who oversaw three straight loosing seasons. Jerry came in and righted the ship.
 

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Jerry hired Jimmy and had to sign off on every move Jimmy made. He deserves at least some credit for those teams. He hired the right man for the job and allowed him to make the moves necessary to build a great team that dominated the 90s. Some fans act like the organization has been crap ever since Jerry bought the team. I get that fans are frustrated at what’s been going on the past 28 years, but for some to say the Cowboys would’ve been a lot better off had someone else purchased the team is ridiculous. I had one fan tell me that he would give up the Cowboys three Super Bowl wins in the 90s just to have someone else running the team. :rolleyes: We’re all frustrated, but some are just blowing stupidity out of their butts. Just look around the league at what a few other teams are going through. What’s going on with the Cowboys isn’t nearly as bad as what it could be.
You had a like coming until that last sentence. True, it could be worse, like Cleveland. But the goal ain’t to be the cream of the crap.

I’m not of the mindset that anything less than a Super Bowl is a failed season, but I don’t see how any fan can be satisfied with the results of the last 28 years. I am convinced that I’ve witnessed the last time the Cowboys will be in a Super Bowl. My solace is that, if that does cone fruition, I will have gotten to experience 8 of them. That’s something many fans can’t say.

And there’s also comfort that, if they don’t play in another Super Bowl, Jerry will likely leave this earth without the one thing he craves - credit for Jimmy’s Super Bowls. And that will be for perpetuity.
 

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Your assessment that Jerry deserves credit for buying the team and thus is partially responsible for winning the 90's SBs is 100% accurate. It's his moves after the 90's that has many of us so disappointed. 28 years is a long time for an old fan.
I’m not giving him credit for buying the team. I’m giving him credit for making the right move at HC after buying the team and allowing his HC to do what was necessary to build the team. Jerry could have bought the team and started doing what he’s doing now, by doing things his own way. He allowed Jimmy to do it his way. Jerry wanted to start doing things his own way after the team began having great success, which helped fracture his relationship with Jimmy. Once Jimmy moved on, Jerry began wearing all the hats and the Cowboys have been stuck in the mud ever since.
 

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You had a like coming until that last sentence. True, it could be worse, like Cleveland. But the goal ain’t to be the cream of the crap.

I’m not of the mindset that anything less than a Super Bowl is a failed season, but I don’t see how any fan can be satisfied with the results of the last 28 years. I am convinced that I’ve witnessed the last time the Cowboys will be in a Super Bowl. My solace is that, if that does cone fruition, I will have gotten to experience 8 of them. That’s something many fans can’t say.

And there’s also comfort that, if they don’t play in another Super Bowl, Jerry will likely leave this earth without the one thing he craves - credit for Jimmy’s Super Bowls. And that will be for perpetuity.
Just to be clear, I’m in no way satisfied with the results the last 28 years. All I’m saying is it could be worse.
 

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Final reply: Yes, it's his team and he's a business genius. But, I believe he's squandered the last 28 years. Think of the football success we could have enjoyed if he'd done it differently, like the successful NFL owners are enjoying now. So, he's to be admired for his business prowess and disliked for what he's done to Dallas Cowboys football.
what succesfull owners? You mean like Robert Kraft??? Hes about to experience, or IS experiencing his own run of garbage years.
Oh, you mean like the Rooney family... if only we were as good as the steelers.....oh, wait.
Oh, yea, more like the Mara family with the Giants.....oh, damn... hold on, let me try again
Oh... Like the Hunts... yea, yea, there you go... like the Chiefs, they clearly know how to run a franchise........... well, at least since one Patrick Mahomes arrived.
 

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Not completely tossed, the plaintiffs can amend their complaint.
 

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we may never know, but I am pretty sure it did come up Green $$$$$$
well, if you had taken the time to actually READ, it clearly stated the paternity test was ordered in Dec and has been delayed. Even if it comes back he is the father, he will owe her ZIP.
She is not a minor, he paid for college (supposedly) supported the mom (supposedly) and gave her a trust up to a certain age. Then the trust ran out, and NOW she all of the sudden cares to find out if jerry is her daddy.

And where is couchcoach... he loves this topic...lol
 

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I’m not giving him credit for buying the team. I’m giving him credit for making the right move at HC after buying the team and allowing his HC to do what was necessary to build the team. Jerry could have bought the team and started doing what he’s doing now, by doing things his own way. He allowed Jimmy to do it his way. Jerry wanted to start doing things his own way after the team began having great success, which helped fracture his relationship with Jimmy. Once Jimmy moved on, Jerry began wearing all the hats and the Cowboys have been stuck in the mud ever since.
im just curious..... im guessing half or more of the teams in the NFL have not won a SB since the 80s.... some, never. Do all of them have meddling owners? How many of those teams have gone through a half dozen or more real football GMs and still no titles? Jerry was the captain on a D1 national championship football team. That alone probably makes him more qualified than most GMs in the league. George Lynch had never coached or been in any front office... so he had little to NO qualifications to be a GM, and yet there he is, being pretty good at it.
 

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Your assessment that Jerry deserves credit for buying the team and thus is partially responsible for winning the 90's SBs is 100% accurate. It's his moves after the 90's that has many of us so disappointed. 28 years is a long time for an old fan.
lets see.... 54 years for the Jets, but yet nobody ever mentions that.... do they.
 

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You had a like coming until that last sentence. True, it could be worse, like Cleveland. But the goal ain’t to be the cream of the crap.

I’m not of the mindset that anything less than a Super Bowl is a failed season, but I don’t see how any fan can be satisfied with the results of the last 28 years. I am convinced that I’ve witnessed the last time the Cowboys will be in a Super Bowl. My solace is that, if that does cone fruition, I will have gotten to experience 8 of them. That’s something many fans can’t say.

And there’s also comfort that, if they don’t play in another Super Bowl, Jerry will likely leave this earth without the one thing he craves - credit for Jimmy’s Super Bowls. And that will be for perpetuity.
so you some how take glee that Jerry wont get wat he wants, which is the same thing you want????? smh, ok, whatever floats your boat.
 

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Not completely tossed, the plaintiffs can amend their complaint.
this case is going nowhere. The attorney for plaintiff tried to make it a good thing... Im very happy that this case is moving forward....bahahhahahahhahahhahahah
 

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Unfortunately, you'll never convince these guys that Jones on his own just isn't able to win a SB. The 90's are directly attributable to Jimmy Johnson. And, Jones doesn't seem to care.
Well, Jerry did have to buy the team, hire Jimmy, give him authority and agree to what Jimmy wanted to do, so while Jimmy was the football guy that made great decisions that needed to be made, we cant pretend that Jerry didn't create the situation for it to happen
 

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We're not Jets fans, are we?
IM not talking about in this forum, im talking about the media. Have you EVER heard a media talking head mention how long it has been since the JETS last SB title? I havent. Ive also never heard them mention the fact the the Niners have gone longer with no title than the Cowboys have. Or the Browns, Jags,Chargers, Raiders.... and on and on and on. Because nobody cares about those teams. It is what it is.
 
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