FWST: Team source says Garrett likely choice

[dalboy]

Can somebody please answer me this question? Does Jerry have a man crush on jeff fisher because everytime i hear about potiential coaching changes around the league they are always talking about Jeff coming to dallas. Truly I think the guy is overated hes been there for 15 years and how many championships have they won? none I think the players want Jason so give the man a shot

 

[28 Joker]

what are you referring to here? Can you elaborate please?

A Bryan Broaddus chat, a MacMahon chat, Clarance Hill...

Broaddus stated in a recent chat.."if they do something with Newman" when talking about draft needs.. MacMahon stated "maybe Newman".

If they drafted a CB in round 1, Newman could for sure be out the door and possibly off to a team like the Saints or Ravens.

Replacing Newman shouldn't be a top priority this year (IMO), but three different sources have listed him and Broaddus brought his name up in a chat. If the best player on the board is a CB, fine. However, do you want a rookie and this version of Mike Jenkins starting at CB next year? If Newman does leave, he will most likely end up with a playoff contender like the Saints or Ravens, like I stated. If they are looking at CBs (and they should do their homework), I hope to goodness that they are looking at Janoris Jenkins and not Prince Amukamara.

RT, LG, RG, DE, DE, SS, FS, C, CB

Broaddus stated that "some" in Valley Ranch view Montrae Holland as a stop gap at guard. I think that is crazy thinking.

Holland has been injury prone, couldn't get Proctor out of the lineup until Thanksgiving and then got hurt. He's not athletic enough. He's an expensive backup player and nothing more, imo. He isn't athletic, and he was in when Romo got hurt.

I was reading an old Ed Werder chat a while back, and he talked about the faction of excuse makers at Valley Ranch for Roy E. Williams vs the people who thought that Williams was overrated, ran poor routes, and didn't compete. Roy E. Williams has some backers at Valley Ranch, because they probably signed off on him and need him to succeed. Werder stated that Williams' backers blamed Romo for Williams' lack of success this year. It's just like iOwens, imo. Owens had backers at Valley Ranch who pointed the finger at Romo.

These are the type of people who need to be cleaned out at Valley Ranch, imo,.

Also, Werder stated that one of the last things Parcells told Jerry Jones was to be patient with Miles Austin, because he thought that he could be a number 1 WR. Obviously, Jerry Jones didn't listen or some in the organization, because the panicked and hurt this franchise with the Williams fiasco.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I'm hearing the same... I hope he hires a really good coaching staff because this team needs to be reformed and reshaped.

 

[jblaze2004]

A Bryan Broaddus chat, a MacMahon chat, Clarance Hill...

Broaddus stated in a recent chat.."if they do something with Newman" when talking about draft needs.. MacMahon stated "maybe Newman".

If they drafted a CB in round 1, Newman could for sure be out the door and possibly off to a team like the Saints or Ravens.

Replacing Newman shouldn't be a top priority this year (IMO), but three different sources have listed him and Broaddus brought his name up in a chat. If the best player on the board is a CB, fine. However, do you want a rookie and this version of Mike Jenkins starting at CB next year? If Newman does leave, he will most likely end up with a playoff contender like the Saints or Ravens, like I stated. If they are looking at CBs (and they should do their homework), I hope to goodness that they are looking at Janoris Jenkins and not Prince Amukamara.

RT, LG, RG, DE, DE, SS, FS, C, CB

Broaddus stated that "some" in Valley Ranch view Montrae Holland as a stop gap at guard. I think that is crazy thinking.

Holland has been injury prone, couldn't get Proctor out of the lineup until Thanksgiving and then got hurt. He's not athletic enough. He's an expensive backup player and nothing more, imo. He isn't athletic, and he was in when Romo got hurt.

I was reading an old Ed Werder chat a while back, and he talked about the faction of excuse makers at Valley Ranch for Roy E. Williams vs the people who thought that Williams was overrated, ran poor routes, and didn't compete. Roy E. Williams has some backers at Valley Ranch, because they probably signed off on him and need him to succeed. Werder stated that Williams' backers blamed Romo for Williams' lack of success this year. It's just like iOwens, imo. Owens had backers at Valley Ranch who pointed the finger at Romo.

These are the type of people who need to be cleaned out at Valley Ranch, imo,.

Also, Werder stated that one of the last things Parcells told Jerry Jones was to be patient with Miles Austin, because he thought that he could be a number 1 WR. Obviously, Jerry Jones didn't listen or some in the organization, because the panicked and hurt this franchise with the Williams fiasco.

Jerry really dropped the ball on roy williams. One of the worst trades in the last 5 years

 

[jblaze2004]

A Bryan Broaddus chat, a MacMahon chat, Clarance Hill...

Broaddus stated in a recent chat.."if they do something with Newman" when talking about draft needs.. MacMahon stated "maybe Newman".

If they drafted a CB in round 1, Newman could for sure be out the door and possibly off to a team like the Saints or Ravens.

Replacing Newman shouldn't be a top priority this year (IMO), but three different sources have listed him and Broaddus brought his name up in a chat. If the best player on the board is a CB, fine. However, do you want a rookie and this version of Mike Jenkins starting at CB next year? If Newman does leave, he will most likely end up with a playoff contender like the Saints or Ravens, like I stated. If they are looking at CBs (and they should do their homework), I hope to goodness that they are looking at Janoris Jenkins and not Prince Amukamara.

RT, LG, RG, DE, DE, SS, FS, C, CB

Broaddus stated that "some" in Valley Ranch view Montrae Holland as a stop gap at guard. I think that is crazy thinking.

Holland has been injury prone, couldn't get Proctor out of the lineup until Thanksgiving and then got hurt. He's not athletic enough. He's an expensive backup player and nothing more, imo. He isn't athletic, and he was in when Romo got hurt.

I was reading an old Ed Werder chat a while back, and he talked about the faction of excuse makers at Valley Ranch for Roy E. Williams vs the people who thought that Williams was overrated, ran poor routes, and didn't compete. Roy E. Williams has some backers at Valley Ranch, because they probably signed off on him and need him to succeed. Werder stated that Williams' backers blamed Romo for Williams' lack of success this year. It's just like iOwens, imo. Owens had backers at Valley Ranch who pointed the finger at Romo.

These are the type of people who need to be cleaned out at Valley Ranch, imo,.

Also, Werder stated that one of the last things Parcells told Jerry Jones was to be patient with Miles Austin, because he thought that he could be a number 1 WR. Obviously, Jerry Jones didn't listen or some in the organization, because the panicked and hurt this franchise with the Williams fiasco.

interesting he said Janoris Jenkins over Prince

 

[J-DOG]

Its not just the media. Why wouldn't you want us to consider a number of qualified individuals for the position before we make a decision?

It would be stupid not to.

We will.
Jerry will bring in guys to interview.
Jerry is being very non-comitted to Garrett to make it seem as though he is seriously considering everyone he brings in to interview.
Jerry is going to get criticized no matter what he does with the head coaching decision.
But if you really believe Jerry is not going to give Jason a shot at being head coach you haven't been paying attention the last 4 years.
Guys who are out there right now are retreads or are going to be from the list of asst coaches around the league.
I'll put it this way...if Jerry brings in a Jim Harbaugh or a Gary Patterson I will be convinced he is truly considering someone other than Garrett.

 

[28 Joker]

HUGE exagerration of what happened in TC with Scandrick.

As far as Desean Jackson returning punts, he's not half the receiver that Dez will be when their careers are all said and done. He's a nice speed option and deep threat sure, but he's not a complete all around skilled WR. Dez has 100 times more talent at the position. Hell, as i've said before, Jackson isn't even the best WR on his team. I think we could do fine without Dez back returning kicks. No reason to risk it.

You think it's "just football" on the Dez play, but I analyze the play and the circumstances for practice.

I think it was reckless on Scandrick's part. We have already discussed this and your allegiance to Roy E. Williams might cloud your judgment. You came out big for Williams in "Pad Gate". I say it was typical Roy E. Williams arrogance. You say it's "old school" respect. However, respect is earned, not given. Dez is here to take Williams' job. Out of all the people on the team, he just had to pick Dez. Even Mack Brown himself stated that Bryant could carry Tony Romo's pads (ESPN). Brown wouldn't defend Williams. The video doesn't lie, and it was pass interference, too.

DeSean Jackson is too good of a player to return kickoffs. Plus, he is small.

Jackson is the most dangerous deep threat in the NFL, NFC for sure.

We agree on Dez and the risk of returning kickoffs.

Hey, we keep clashing, because you keep coming after my positions.

When are you going to learn....

 

[28 Joker]

interesting he said Janoris Jenkins over Prince

DeSean Jackson just went that way...

Janoris Jenkins can follow him.

Amukamara is a better off, zone CB, and he doesn't have Janoris Jenkins' speed or slot potential.

The next defensive coordinator will tell you something.

Garrett wanted Capers, and Capers keeps Woodson out of the deep 1/3 (in man coverage) as a rule.

Edit:

Dallas took a $ 9 million dollar cap hit to cut iOwens, and cutting Williams would only require a $ 3.6 million cap hit from what I've read.

I agree on Williams. Huge mistake..

Now, hold yourself (GM) and the people who signed off on it accountable.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Can somebody please answer me this question? Does Jerry have a man crush on jeff fisher because everytime i hear about potiential coaching changes around the league they are always talking about Jeff coming to dallas. Truly I think the guy is overated hes been there for 15 years and how many championships have they won? none I think the players want Jason so give the man a shot

He's in a small market and has never had the talent of big market teams like the Cowboys.

Yet he's one of the top 20 winningest coaches of all time.

Do the math..

 

[Beast_from_East]

I read the article and Coach Sherman is talking about how excited he is to interview for the HC job???


Is Sherman really this dumb???


Everybody and their uncle knows Jerry is interviewing him to satisfy the Rooney Rule, there is no chance in hell he is going to say, "I was going to go with Garrett, but Sherman just blew me away so he gets the job instead".

 

[silverbear]

Really? Going 4-4 and struggle against 2 of the worst team in the league in the Cards and Skins.....

Yeah, let's blame him for Kitna throwing two early pick sixes, then Buehler missing an extra point... it's all on him... and of course, he's personally responsible for Kitna getting hurt and McGee having to finish the game...

Garrett took over a 1-7 team, and has gone 4-3 with them, in spite of losing his Pro Bowl quarterback...

One of these days, you're gonna make a post full of wisdom and good old fashioned common sense... alas, I'm already 58, so I don't know if I'll live to see it...

 

[RoyTheHammer]

You think it's "just football" on the Dez play, but I analyze the play and the circumstances for practice.

I think it was reckless on Scandrick's part. We have already discussed this and your allegiance to Roy E. Williams might cloud your judgment. You came out big for Williams in "Pad Gate". I say it was typical Roy E. Williams arrogance. You say it's "old school" respect. However, respect is earned, not given. Dez is here to take Williams' job. Out of all the people on the team, he just had to pick Dez. Even Mack Brown himself stated that Bryant could carry Tony Romo's pads (ESPN). Brown wouldn't defend Williams. The video doesn't lie, and it was pass interference, too.

DeSean Jackson is too good of a player to return kickoffs. Plus, he is small.

Jackson is the most dangerous deep threat in the NFL, NFC for sure.

We agree on Dez and the risk of returning kickoffs.

Hey, we keep clashing, because you keep coming after my positions.

When are you going to learn....

We're talking about a play between Scandrick and Dez that wasn't a big deal, and yet you still bring up Roy Williams lol.

You can't get off his jock, that man owns you. Unreal.

Jackson is not half the WR that Dez is, and not even the WR that Maclin is. Again, not even the best WR on his own team. Enough with the "superstar" tag on him. Yet he cries because he doesn't think he should have to return punts or run routes over the middle.. he's more of a child than a football player.

By the way, i go after positions that are stupid, not only yours. Don't take it personally. If a guy is trying to break up a pass in practice and accidentally injures someone, its not intentional. Anyone who thinks it is is ridiculous.

As far as Dez carrying a vets pads.. yea, he should have just done it. All the vets agreed, even those on other teams. In the end its not a huge deal.. calling it "Pad Gate" and trying to break it down and analyse it like it was a turning point in the season just shows how silly you can really get.

Since you like bringing up other unrelated things and can't seem to focus on the topic at hand..

tell me more about how Newman is a top 5 shutdown corner?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yeah, let's blame him for Kitna throwing two early pick sixes, then Buehler missing an extra point... it's all on him... and of course, he's personally responsible for Kitna getting hurt and McGee having to finish the game...

Garrett took over a 1-7 team, and has gone 4-3 with them, in spite of losing his Pro Bowl quarterback...

One of these days, you're gonna make a post full of wisdom and good old fashioned common sense... alas, I'm already 58, so I don't know if I'll live to see it...

Yeah its all about improvement as far as I am concerned.

Points are up by a TD or something. We have been averaging right around 30 points a game. We have been getting over 2 TO a game with him which is a drastic improvement. We have won to TO battle all but once in AZ.

 

[bysbox1]

Really? Going 4-4 and struggle against 2 of the worst team in the league in the Cards and Skins..... Not sure he the answer, but Jerry probably make another right choice again with Garrett.... He need somebody for a puppet anyway......

Until the GM is change then the Boys can take the next step to the Super Bowl.....

Here is my problem with the move, besides Garrett's lack of expience which really bothers me . . . I could fill up a whole page talking about that, but let's stick with the topic . . . .

Jerry the GM will interview one or two candidates just to save some face with the NFL (or the Rooney rule). Then he'll anoint Garrett head coach without doing any due diligence. This is a recipe for failure. I mean at least give Gruden, Harbaugh, Fisher, Holmgren, Rivera, Chudzinski, Nolan, Capers, etc. a shot. How do you know if Garrett is the best if you don't interview anyone else? You are just assuming at this point. Maybe one of those retreads has a lot of great ideas for this team that will benefit in the future. As much as some hated Parcells, he did do a lot of good things here and there were a lot of benefits having him here. If not we may have wallowed through a long string of 5-11 seasons. But you never know if one of these guys will shine if you never bring them in and Jerry puts every candidate through a proper process . . . even Garrett.

I would be fine promoting Garrett if Jerry interviews 10 or 12 guys (including Garrett in a formal interview) and at the end of the day he comes back with Garrett on top. That means he put his best foot forward and looked at all options. That would mean he looked at every detail and really figured out what's best for the team. But if he just interviews one or two token guys and just promotes Red, then that's stupidity beyond stupidity. It's that lack of attention to detail from management that has this team wallowing in mediocrity year after year.

On top of it all, for all those not wanting a retread head coach, when you really look at it, who do you think Garret is? He's a guy that Jerry feels comfortable with so the same old same old can continue with the Cowboys. Why bring in someone like a Gruden or even a Harbaugh who may shake up the existing culture at Valley Ranch? Because anyone else will bring in a new system, and we can't have that. We'll just keep reeling in the same old guys . . . the only difference between Garrett and a Campo or Switzer is that he was a player. Some articles say he was a player/coach when he was backup QB here. And Garrett and his family is deeply entrenched in Valley Ranch. Bottom line is Garrett is really just another retread from the past disgused as a new young coach. It's really the same old system that has not worked for the past decade. Don't give me this discipline/attention to detail/he wasn't here the whole time garbage. He's from the same system whether you want to admit it or not. And you can bet you bottom dollar that most of the existing coaching staff will stay in tact, even though the defense looks putrid and Garrett could use a play caller. It will be the same old thing, just in a different wrapping.

Then if this team implodes for the next 2-3 seasons, the same people who think Garrett will be next Lombardi or Walsh will want his head on a platter and thrown out of Dallas. But in reality it will be the dysfunction of management and the process that's at fault, not Garrett. It will be Jerry Jone's fault for not paying attention to detail, bringing in as many candidates as possible, and following a proper interview process instead of just hiring the "family guy." It will be Jerry's fault for not overhauling the staff after such a piss-poor year. If Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, yet expecting different results, then Jerry Jones is totally insane. He keeps doing the same things over and over. We'll probably see more medocrity and more of the same garbage for years to come. I hope not, but Jerry Jones gives little reason to believe anything will change. And Garrett will be the fall guy when Jerry is really at fault . . . .

:bang2:

I will reserve my judgement on this one until a name is offically announced. Maybe Jerry will surprise all and interview a lot of candidates. Maybe he will do this the right way. Make Garrett interview for the job the way it should be done. And if he ends up on top, then Garrett should be the guy. I would be fine if it went down that way. But a pedestrian 4-4 record plus the fact that he was part of this mess to begin with should not make Red a shoe in to get this job. Garrett should not be given a free pass. He should go through the interview process just like every other guy, and Jerry should bring in a lot of "other guys". Maybe Jerry will do this right. I have my serious doubts though.

 

[miamicowboy21]

Didn't take long for 2011 to get off to a ****ty start.

LMAO!!!... I want Jeff fisher in the worst way. Hopefully fisher forces his way out of Tenn, then Jerry will have to make a tough decision.

 

[noshame]

This is great news, but I don't trust the snake oil man.

Just hope we have some news faces on the assistant side.

 

[FLcowboy]

Really? Going 4-4 and struggle against 2 of the worst team in the league in the Cards and Skins..... Not sure he the answer, but Jerry probably make another right choice again with Garrett.... He need somebody for a puppet anyway......

Until the GM is change then the Boys can take the next step to the Super Bowl.....

Garrett is saddled with a backup quarterback, the loss of maybe his best receiver, a running back committee, a defensive backfield that maybe is the worst in the division, and a defensive coordinator plucked from the position coaches lineup. I'd say he's been pretty good at handling the cards he was dealt.

 

[cowboyed]

Really? Going 4-4 and struggle against 2 of the worst team in the league in the Cards and Skins..... Not sure he the answer, but Jerry probably make another right choice again with Garrett.... He need somebody for a puppet anyway......

Until the GM is change then the Boys can take the next step to the Super Bowl.....

You conveniently omit that we beat some pretty good teams and also lost some games down to the wire on some isolated bad plays. It's also been debunked by other Cowboys coaches past and present that Jerry inappropriately controls head coaches. The actual GM behind the scenes that does the daily dirty work is Stephen Jones. Jerry doesn't mind being the spokesman and as owner he does get final say so.

Stephen Jones is starting to become more visible and now is also very active on the NFL competition committee. I bet he will also become more media visible in upcoming seasons. This season he has been more media responsive than last season.

 

[cowboyvic]

He performed well in his tryout. He deserves the shot.

Bullcrap! Garrett stinks, and has been a big part of our problems. good luck selling tickets Jerry.

 

[theebs]

Bullcrap! Garrett stinks, and has been a big part of our problems. good luck selling tickets Jerry.

stadium has been sold out all year and will continue to be.

This isnt buffalo, miami, san francisco, san diego, oakland, st.louis, detroit or jacksonville.

Sorry to burst your bubble.