FWST: Team source says Garrett likely choice

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AdamJT13;3773643 said:
Speculation is different from a "high-ranking team source" saying it.

The media has been speculating along with "most of us" for weeks, but this is the first time that the speculation has been confirmed by a source within the organization.

Some of us were not so much speculating as kindly suggesting the point that it's a done deal and I dont really recall many members of the media that were willing to even speculate he was getting the job with all the calls for "big name" interviews and demands that Jerry must go big. Matter of fact, I would like to see one article from a media member of Dallas that suggests Garrett is lock for the job.
 

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TonyRomo09;3773685 said:
Careful, your agenda is showing...

We played well in all the games, we didn't have one of those "just didn't show up" type of games that we have had under parcells and Wade, and really for a very long time.. i didn't see one of those... now the defense didn't show up for like every game, but that is something we get a DC for, not get rid of our rising star HC, who holds the players accountable..

We won some great games, woulda won more if not for a stupid fumble, and probably woulda won if not for a missed extra point..
Jason Garrett did everything right from what i have seen, if not for 2 mistakes that garrett has no control of we are probably 6-2.. and that is without Romo, Dez gone for alot of it, and our Defense giving the other team 30 pts a game..

if we can Keep Garrett, get a D coordinator who can keep the other team to say.. even 24 pts a game.. and have Romo Playing.. we are a team to be reckoned with..

Focus and discipline are things the head coach is responsible for. When i see things like 7 fumbles in a single game, including one at the last second to cost us the game, missed extra points, excessive penalties.. those are things we were doing under Wade that simply can't continue under Garrett, not to mention the clock and field management issue. We've done some things under JG that im very impressed with, but he's not been without his flaws as well. I think he still has a ways to go to prove he can be a successful HC in this league.

Does he deserve a chance to lead this team next year? I think so. However, i also think Jeff Fisher will get a long look from Jerry before he makes his decision.
 

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41gy#;3773721 said:
He lost training camp, because Orlando Scandrick slammed into him from behind (in a non-contact practice) and jumped on him and twisted around him around while on his ankle.

There is no doubt Bryant is a violent player, but there is also no doubt kickoffs are very dangerous, imo. Could Bryant get his ankle sprained or broken on the field of play, yes?

However, if you are not on kickoffs, you can't get hurt on a kickoff and your risk of getting hurt goes down, because you are not returning them. Bryant was hurt on a kickoff. There is a reason that the NFL has kickoff specialists, so star skill guys don't get exposed to extra risk. Broken legs happen...Guys running down full speed, heavy traffic, ect...

He wouldn't be back there anymore, but that is just me. Again, I'm o.k. with some of the punts. DeSean Jackson returns some of the punts, too.

:rolleyes: HUGE exagerration of what happened in TC with Scandrick.

As far as Desean Jackson returning punts, he's not half the receiver that Dez will be when their careers are all said and done. He's a nice speed option and deep threat sure, but he's not a complete all around skilled WR. Dez has 100 times more talent at the position. Hell, as i've said before, Jackson isn't even the best WR on his team. I think we could do fine without Dez back returning kicks. No reason to risk it.
 

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RoyTheHammer;3773783 said:
Focus and discipline are things the head coach is responsible for. When i see things like 7 fumbles in a single game, including one at the last second to cost us the game, missed extra points, excessive penalties.. those are things we were doing under Wade that simply can't continue under Garrett, not to mention the clock and field management issue. We've done some things under JG that im very impressed with, but he's not been without his flaws as well. I think he still has a ways to go to prove he can be a successful HC in this league.

Does he deserve a chance to lead this team next year? I think so. However, i also think Jeff Fisher will get a long look from Jerry before he makes his decision.

The important thing is that we not make the same mistake at HC that we made with kicker this year, i.e. a sham search. I'm not necessarily against Garrett getting the job provided he defeats a strong, elite list of competitors come interview time. If Jerry flies in some blah candidates, you'll know the fix was in. Nor could you convince the faithful (well, the rational ones) that the best man won the job.
 

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1: Good choice IMO, Garrett has earned it. If not for two stupid player mistakes he would be 6-1 and could easily be 7-0. The same team was getting crushed under Wade.

2: The Rooney rule is literally the worst rule in American sports. Steam comes out of my ears thinking about it. It's bad for the game's image and insulting to minorities.
 

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bbgun;3773763 said:
Didn't take long for 2011 to get off to a ****ty start.

:laugh2:

And re: your other post... If this article and people around here are to be believed, the fix is definitely already in. Which I just don't understand.

Wait, yes I do... Jerry has dreamed of this for a decade now, so that's what he's going to do.
 

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What a depressing thought - Jerry hiring yet again another puppet. Whoopee!

It worked so well before Jerry promoting someone on the staff ( Campo ) to head puppet. That sure worked out well for us.

Alot of people on here seem to be ignoring Jerry having his hands in everything after promoting Red as interim head coach. They think for some strange reason he will suddenly let Red act like a real head coach next year, even while saying he (as in Jerry not Red) will be seeing which Defensive coordinator he will hire later on.

Red will be a puppet, ala Campo, ala Wade. There is very little chance he can do anything of substance with this team even if he was Tom Landry incarnate with Jerry acting this way.

Sure hope this SOURCE doesn't know what he's talking about.
 

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TonyRomo09;3773685 said:
Careful, your agenda is showing...

We played well in all the games, we didn't have one of those "just didn't show up" type of games that we have had under parcells and Wade, and really for a very long time.. i didn't see one of those... now the defense didn't show up for like every game, but that is something we get a DC for, not get rid of our rising star HC, who holds the players accountable..

We won some great games, woulda won more if not for a stupid fumble, and probably woulda won if not for a missed extra point..
Jason Garrett did everything right from what i have seen, if not for 2 mistakes that garrett has no control of we are probably 6-2.. and that is without Romo, Dez gone for alot of it, and our Defense giving the other team 30 pts a game..

if we can Keep Garrett, get a D coordinator who can keep the other team to say.. even 24 pts a game.. and have Romo Playing.. we are a team to be reckoned with..

Love it how only those who disagree with having the Great Red Hope as HC have an agenda and not those who are for the guy.

Yes, I have an agenda. Yes, so do you. And the beat goes on...
 

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Comparing Campo's demeanor to Garrett's is the most unenlightened thing I've ever had the misfortune of reading
 

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Just saying I’m not convince with Garrett and not ready to give him a pass because he was part of the issue. Yes, the D was horrible, but Garrett stuck with Barber, wouldn't put Dez on the field and didn't stick with the run... But we saw some flashes; just imagine he had a good Defense? He deserves a shot but with Jerry running things it might not matter anyway. Hell the players played hard for Wade in his first year? They went 13-3 and everybody was screaming he was the best choice over Parchell.... :lmao:

I agree we could be 6-2 but we could easily be 2-6 also? Like Parchells said you are what you are? Right now were below 500% team, fumble here or there or the other team drop a pass here or there? You are what you are.... plus don't see the accountability or dominate like good teams do? I just don't see it right now...
 

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SSGMIKE;3773814 said:
Just saying I’m not convince with Garrett and not ready to give him a pass because he was part of the issue. Yes, the D was horrible, but Garrett stuck with Barber, wouldn't put Dez on the field and didn't stick with the run... But we saw some flashes; just imagine he had a good Defense? He deserves a shot but with Jerry running things it might not matter anyway. Hell the players played hard for Wade in his first year? They went 13-3 and everybody was screaming he was the best choice over Parchell.... :lmao:

I agree we could be 6-2 but we could easily be 2-6 also? Like Parchells said you are what you are? Right now were below 500% team, fumble here or there or the other team drop a pass here or there? You are what you are.... plus don't see the accountability or dominate like good teams do? I just don't see it right now...

Most people were giving Garrett and Romo the credit in '07. It was pretty clear Wade was just along for the ride.
 

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He was the choice years ago. He's done well, but most importantly, he won't upstage Jerry.
 

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41gy#;3773677 said:
If it is "business as usual" in the GM and personnel department, then I'm concerned about personnel decisions.

Valley Ranch needs a thorough cleaning out, imo.

Again, I agree with Mike Lombardi. It isn't Jason Garrett's coaching that is costing Dallas games, it's poor self scouting and personnel evaluation, including that great 2009 draft, Roy E. Williams, Marion Barber, Marc Colombo, ect...The stuff I'm starting hear about Newman and Holland...

I'm less concerned with Garrett's coaching than I am with that personnel outfit, and that is why Fisher is an appealing guy. I know his DB coach really likes Newman, and Fisher would keep Newman in Dallas, imso. Plus, Fisher's offensive line coach is among the best in the NFL.

what are you referring to here? Can you elaborate please?
 

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The media will make sure that there is continued speculation of other coaches as being the choice for head coach. Hiring Garrett as the head coach is not a controversial or news-worthy choice as far as the media is concerned.
The media will try to thier best to make the fans unsure until it happens.
It's the Dallas and national media and how they cover the Cowboys...they want a soap opera. It drives ratings and sells papers.
 

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J-DOG;3773878 said:
The media will make sure that there is continued speculation of other coaches as being the choice for head coach. Hiring Garrett as the head coach is not a controversial or news-worthy choice as far as the media is concerned.
The media will try to thier best to make the fans unsure until it happens.
It's the Dallas and national media and how they cover the Cowboys...they want a soap opera. It drives ratings and sells papers.

Its not just the media. Why wouldn't you want us to consider a number of qualified individuals for the position before we make a decision?

It would be stupid not to.
 

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Yeah, death....taxes........sun rises in the east and sets in the west...any other NEWS out there currently?
 

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...the article's statement about Jones' interview of Dennis Green before hiring Parcells.

I would hope that Jones would approach anything Cowboys related with a more thorough and detailed attempt.

You want to make sure you try everything to get it right every time.

Nothing against Garrett here, but I hope he does seriously interview other candidates. If only for the purpose of seeing what is out there in terms of opportunities.
 

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I feel JG has EARNED the right to coach a 100% healthy team next season. He did what he did without Romo and Dez (partially). Give him a shot with a healthy roster.
If he doesn't perform well, then search for a new coach. I'm actually excited to see what he can do with a training camp and running the show from the start.
 

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bluenut;3773901 said:
I feel JG has EARNED the right to coach a 100% healthy team next season. He did what he did without Romo and Dez (partially). Give him a shot with a healthy roster.
If he doesn't perform well, then search for a new coach. I'm actually excited to see what he can do with a training camp and running the show from the start.

this. and also a new defensive staff, atleast DC.
i mean the vikings are giving Leslie frazier the HC, talking about contract negotiations. Garrett has done a much better job then frazier with Jon Kitna and basically no right side starting offensive line.
 
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