Tony Romo Has a 104.5 Passer Rating in Losses This Season

[ghst187]

Mind numbing stuff.

And it goes to show that no matter how good you are, when you make a huge mistake that essentially costs the team a game, the good is not remembered, just the bad.

yeah he plays extremely well...and then is probably the most tenured QB in history to keep his job this long and be so amazingly consistent at throwing games away with late INTs.
I mean seriously, did ANYONE, ANYONE think he WASN'T going to throw a pick late in the GB game when it got tight?
Its becoming as reliable as the sun setting almost. Heck the NYG game appears increasingly as the anomaly.
Stats be darned, show me W's.

 

[Primetime42]

Parcells took guys like Sims, who was not all that highly regarded because he was an excellent decision maker. He played Hostetler when a lot of people didn't even think he should have kept him on the rosters. Here in Dallas, he stuck with older QBs for a long time rather then going with younger guys for the exact same reasons.

Coach Landry stuck with White longer then many wanted him to, even when White was seriously injured. He dind't play Roger until he felt he could trust him. Coach Landry valued the same kinds of things. I mean, I guess I don't understand what the issue is here?

Phil Simms was a #7 overall pick who was drafted before Parcells even got there.

Stop this.

 

[Blackspider214]

The excuses keep flying in for him....

 

[Aikmaniac]

More silly stats. Just watch the games man.... everyone knows the defense is horrific. Watch Tony Romo and the offense. Did you not watch the GB game? Did you not see Romo over throw and under throw Dez 5 freaking times in the game? Romo has looked bad since the Denver game. Even if we had an average defense, our team would not be going very far.

Do you even read what you post?

If we had an average defense, we win at least the Denver, Detroit, and Green Bay games.

 

[iceberg]

yeah he plays extremely well...and then is probably the most tenured QB in history to keep his job this long and be so amazingly consistent at throwing games away with late INTs.
I mean seriously, did ANYONE, ANYONE think he WASN'T going to throw a pick late in the GB game when it got tight?
Its becoming as reliable as the sun setting almost. Heck the NYG game appears increasingly as the anomaly.
Stats be darned, show me W's.

what i think is funny (ie, annoying as hell) is that people like you complain week in and week out that romo is going to cost us the game. when he wins it for us, it's back to "oh he will though!!!" and no credit given for when he *wins* us the game.

what a prediction. sooner or later a team is going to win the superbowl - just wait!!!

 

[khiladi]

Net passer rating has the highest correlation of any stat to winning in both the regular season and the playoffs

Still doesn't change what I stated...

 

[khiladi]

It has a huge correlation with winning. The passer rating differential between two teams decides the outcome 80-90% of the time.

This along with the fact that all the major components are known to be repeatable skills and not the result of luck (yards per attempt, completion percentage, TD percentage, INT percentage) is why it has value.

No, it does not decide the outcome, which is why we are discussing Tony Romo losing with a high passer rating. Score decides the outcome.

 

[khiladi]

There are many things that can also obscure stats, like playing from behind and throwing a lot of yardage. My word choice was bad, i.e. correlation, but I think it was clear when I made the comparison in terms of 10 widgets. Selling 10 widgets determines profit or loss like score does.

 

[dallasfan4lizife]

No, it does not decide the outcome, which is why we are discussing Tony Romo losing with a high passer rating. Score decides the outcome.

there is a correlation between his QB rating in the last 5 minutes of a game though.

one of the lowest in the league for the past 6 seasons.

 

[khiladi]

there is a correlation between his QB rating in the last 5 minutes of a game though.

one of the lowest in the league for the past 6 seasons.

Not sure if you phrased it correctly (you probably mean behind with 5 minutes) but it also depends on score. Dallas is up 25-7 with 5 minutes to go.. Romo throws it four times and is 50% and no TDs. Passer rating would suck for the last 5 minutes, but who cares. Does it really tell us anything?

The problem is you can twist stats to suit what you want. We also have idiot Garrett at the helm whose calling plays, whose probably the worst situational coach in history.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Of course it's going to affect the view. You would rather have the account then not have it. Nobody is disputing that.

That said the overall value of the employee is going to be decided by the overall revenue he generates and not just the one account.

If he's producing a well above average profit margin even with blowing the account it's likely the employer will still view him/her as a well above average employee.

Its likely though, the next time a big account comes along that the company is counting on.. you won't be trusting that employee with securing it... no matter what his other numbers throughout the year have been like.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

He can play defense better than Romo? Oh wait........

No, he can run an offense better than Romo.

QB's don't play defense..

 

[dallasfan4lizife]

Not sure if you phrased it correctly (you probably mean behind with 5 minutes) but it also depends on score. Dallas is up 25-7 with 5 minutes to go.. Romo throws it four times and is 50% and no TDs. Passer rating would suck for the last 5 minutes, but who cares. Does it really tell us anything?

The problem is you can twist stats to suit what you want. We also have idiot Garrett at the helm whose calling plays, whose probably the worst situational coach in history.

Yes, when the game is within 1 possession.

I use my eyes and recognize tony romo is terrible with the game on the line. I don't need any stats to back that up, yet they do.

116.8 rating in 1st 10 minutes of 4th quarter.
67.7 rating in last 5 minutes of 4th quarter.

Romo, fitzpatrick, chad henne, colt mccoy. You never here those put together, but those are the ones with the lowest QB rating in the last 5 minutes with the game on the line.

 

[Rack]

Mind numbing stuff.

And it goes to show that no matter how good you are, when you make a huge mistake that essentially costs the team a game, the good is not remembered, just the bad.

How utterly and completely ignorant of you.

It just goes to show that it's a TEAM game and no matter how well ONE player plays, if the TEAM doesn't play well as a whole it won't matter.

Most of Romo's late game mistakes came at times where he wouldn't have even been in that situation had the TEAM played well (mainly the defense and coaching).

You score 36 or 48 points you shouldn't even be in a position to have to throw at the end of the game.

 

[ufcrules1]

UFC- you should read the entirety of the post.

Don't be habitually lazy with that brain-
It promotes Alzheimer's...

No offense, but it is just not worth my time. I have heard every single angle and stat out there that tries to make Tony something he is not. Do you know how many posters just like yourself have changed their tune and have admitted they were wrong about Romo right here on this forum? They told me I was football stupid, was a hater, didn't know what I was talking about, and on and on. We had very heated debates. Now, they have completely changed their tunes and agree with me 100%. Not because I convinced them, but because they saw for themselves. What makes you or your argument any different from theirs?

I have seen Tony with horrible defenses, I have seen him with decent defenses, and I have seen him with defenses slightly above average. He still finds a way to choke. As bad as his defense was against Washington in 2012, they still put him in a position to win and what does he do? Throws his 3rd pick of the game(all of them were his fault). What you need to understand is Romo is "PART" of the problem here irregardless of the coaching staff, the owner, or the defense. He plays a role in our team being mediocre and just doesn't have the ability to play solid football in the post season or even in elimination games. It's not his fault either, he just is what he is.

People that make him out to be an elite QB are the ones that create the myth that he is better than he is and prop him up to a level in which he is not capable of playing/achieving. In the NFL today, if you don't have a QB that can play solid/be counted on in the playoffs, you are doomed. Defenses these days are simply not good enough to make up for the mistakes of a QB throughout the post season and in the super bowl. As good as Chicago was in 2006, their achilles heel was the QB Grossman.. and they lost the super bowl. As good as SF was 2 years ago, Alex Smith was their weak link. (Solid coaching, best defense in the NFL, but an average to slightly above average QB) and you saw the result in the championship game(if you watched it). You have to go all the way back to 2000 to find a defense that was so good it carried it's inept QB to the super bowl and won it.

Tony Romo is a true Cinderella story. Undrafted free agent that put up ridiculous stats and was a true diamond in the rough. On top of that he is a tremendous person. I get the love affair some fans have with him, I too felt the same way between 2006-2009, so I'm not knocking you. I simply just believe you have not seen the light yet and that is the only difference between you and I.

For now, you and I, and a few others on this forum will just have to agree to disagree. The good news is, it is highly likely we won't always disagree.

 

[85Cowboy85]

No, it does not decide the outcome, which is why we are discussing Tony Romo losing with a high passer rating. Score decides the outcome.

Look at the passer rating the team allowed in those losses and get back to me.

They've allowed a passer rating of 118.1 in those losses. That's ridiculously bad.

 

[85Cowboy85]

Yes, when the game is within 1 possession.

I use my eyes and recognize tony romo is terrible with the game on the line. I don't need any stats to back that up, yet they do.

116.8 rating in 1st 10 minutes of 4th quarter.
67.7 rating in last 5 minutes of 4th quarter.

Romo, fitzpatrick, chad henne, colt mccoy. You never here those put together, but those are the ones with the lowest QB rating in the last 5 minutes with the game on the line.

Tony has a career rating of 91.7 in the last five minutes of the fourth quarter. That is the third best in NFL history.

 

[JakeCamp12]

ufcrules is correct in my opinion, he is PART of the problem with this Organization. It is not just the players, coaches, front office....it is all of them. For whatever reason, the chemistry is not right and you have what we see each year, inconsistent playing on the field. The team has been inconsistent for at least 10 years. Some weeks the offense is good, some weeks the defense, some weeks special teams. We do not play consistent football over a 16 week season. Super Bowl winners play consistent football and that is why they win. We have issues with injuries, penalties, mistakes in coverages, route running and some games we don't even give an effort. In corporate business the person that takes the blame for an underperforming company is the CEO. In Dallas the CEO is the owner and GM, until he changes the culture of the organization, not much will really change. The team has taken on the personality of its leaders, Jerry Jones and Garrett. They all say the things Garrett teaches them, but when it comes to doing it on the field, they act like the CEO, Jerry Jones...they are inconsistent, impulsive and they tend to shoot themselves in the foot when a play is needed.

 

[johnson2]

ufc rules, if you dont want to go back and read it (selective much?) ill post it here for you. this was my thoughts.

when was the last time brady won a sb? what about peyton? just having the best qb in the league doesn't guarantee you a superbowl. 31 qb's every year lose when it matters most that includes rodgers, brady, manning, brees, etc.... in the last 6 seasons, brady has 0 superbowls, peyton 0 superbowls, etc..

switching a great qb for a great qb wont do squat when you have 0 defense.

you realize no qb in the history of the nfl has won a superbowl with defensive passer ratings like what ours have been? i mean jeez i know we got an awesome qb but he's not superhuman

 

[85Cowboy85]

Its likely though, the next time a big account comes along that the company is counting on.. you won't be trusting that employee with securing it... no matter what his other numbers throughout the year have been like.

That would depend on his overall rate of securing such contracts.