Murray will be too expensive to keep

TwoDeep3 said:
You started a thread about the negotiations with Dez will be tough. Now this thread.

I have no clue what your intent is. Get people started talking? Hand wringing?

But surely no one knows at this point. Especially fans.
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Again, this is a forum.

We have two players, one who is going to be too expensive to warrant keeping and another whose contract will have to be negotiated... Not a difficult concept.
 
rocyaice said:
Well I think we need to see how he plays THIS year before we determine how hard he will be to keep. The market for running backs is rather low. Most organizations just wait until LaGarette Blount is a free agent and just use him lol.
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That's only because most top running backs stay with their original teams...
 
CyberB0b said:
That deal was signed 3 years ago, and he is by far the best at his position. If he was on the market today, I doubt he would get 13M. LeSean McCoy is getting 9M, and Murray isn't anywhere close to him. He might get 5M/year from a stupid team, but I think it's likely he gets around 3-4M.
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And McCoy just signed in 2012. Again, your scale is offbase.
 
Galian Beast said:
If you look at what Murray will get on the open market, you can bet that he gets around 8 million per year from some team out there.
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I can't see Murray getting around 8 million on the open market. That would make him the 3rd highest paid back in the league according to the latest numbers I've seen. Peterson missed only 3 games in 4 years prior to signing his huge extension. McCoy missed only 2 games in 3 seasons prior to his extension and the same with Arian Foster. Neither Forte, Lynch, Jonathan Stewart, Ray Rice or Jamaal Charles missed more than 4 games due to injury prior to signing their extensions. Murray has missed games due to injury in each of his 3 seasons totaling 11 games. At times Murray looks special and at other times he looks like just another back like he did vs Philly in the season finale last year. If he were to have a real productive injury free season that would certainly increase his value but I don't see him staying healthy for a full 16 games.

When he gets injured it's usually a nagging injury that lingers. After missing most of the Washington game with a sprained knee which made him ineffective he missed the Philly and Detroit games. After returning he only got 4 carries for 31 yards vs Minn still battling that injury. He was unable to break 90 yards the next 3 weeks. He has to be just right or he's not effective. There's RB's in the league who can still be effective on a gimpy knee or ankle but not Murray. When healthy he's a top 10 back but the Cowboys are certainly not going to break the bank to keep him especially after just extending Tyron with a lucrative deal and Dez up for an even bigger extension.
 
CyberB0b said:
Yes, I edited my post right at the same time you quoted me. I was looking at base instead of combined. Would you like to make a signature wager on this matter?
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What would the parameters of the wager be?
 
Just go get another guy. He isn't some kind of special talent that isn't replaceable.
 
With Murray being a cutback runner who likes to change direction any knee, ankle or foot problem makes him non effective.
 
Galian Beast said:
That's only because most top running backs stay with their original teams...
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They're replaceable though. Demarco shouldn't be a break the bank signing and if so he has to leave. Its that simple. There are about 20 guys in this LEAGUE that you have to pay whatever you have to in order to keep them. Cowboys have 2 of those guys. Demarco isn't one.
 
Murray is a real good fit for this offense. He is good in the passing game and with blitz pick-ups. He is also injury prone and needs to miss time every year. That's mean you need a change of pace back like Dunbar AND a back-up Lead Runner type. You shouldn't invest too much money when you need a committee just to complete the season.

I would offer 4/16 tops, with the chance to get out every year. You can add some incentives and set a date in April to decide whether to re-up or not, but I wouldn't give a big signing bonus or guarantee a lot of money. If he can get more from someone else they have to let him go. There are too many other backs in the draft and FA that do almost as much for less.

4 year 16m, 4m signing bonus- add incentives for 15 games or 1200yds

YR SAL SB Cap
15 1m 1m 2m
16 3m 1m 4m
17 4m 1m 5m
18 4m 1m 5m
 
Galian Beast said:
Adrian Peterson - 13 million
Jamaal Charles - 9 million
LeSean McCoy - 9 million
Arian Foster - 8.7 million
DeAngelo Williams - 8.6 million
Matt Forte - 7.6 million
Marshawn Lynch - 7.5 million (holding out for more money)
Jonathan Stewart - 7.3 million
Ray Rice - 7 million
Frank Gore - 6.4 million
CJ Spiller - 5 million
Trent Richardson - 5 million
Ryan Mathews - 4.7 million
Fred Jackson - 4.35 million
Reggie Bush - 4 million
Steven Jackson - 4 million
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Meaning he should get around 5 and 6 mil per. I'd put him in that tier below Gore and above Spiller.
 
Galian Beast said:
If you look at what Murray will get on the open market, you can bet that he gets around 8 million per year from some team out there. That's entirely too expensive for a pass happy team in the Dallas Cowboys.

It'll be important at some point for us to try to maximize his value. Best option would be if we don't franchise Dez next year (meaning we've re-signed or traded him) is to find a trade market for Murray after franchising him.

I fully expect with the offensive line we have this year, that he is going to put up massive numbers. We could get a pretty considerate compensation in trading him. Probably not Trent Richardson value, but I wouldn't be surprised if we couldn't get a 2nd or 3rd for him, maybe even more than that if he has the productive year he is capable of.

I think we have a lot of running backs behind him that will be able to step up in his place now. Even Joseph Randle who were were all pretty down on is coming on stronger given the competition I suppose. Not sure whether I would trade Murray this year, but given the right price, that would be a possibility too.

But the fact is, this guy is gone next year, we shouldn't come up empty handed this time.
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I think this issue might cause them to carry 4 RBs if the 4th guy shows any potential at all.
 
with the RB position steadily losing importance, outside of a few exceptions the majority of the backs will not be getting anywhere near the money they were just 5 years ago.

Interior O linemen are getting more and RBs are getting less. Interesting.
 
If he has a good year he'll likely cost more than most of the numbers in this thread. His base salary this year is $1.4M, and people are suggesting $3M is all he'll get?

I don't buy that you can just come up with another back who can do the same on a whim.

If Dallas doesn't go above $3M, somebody else will if only because averages are pointless.
 
Apollo Creed said:
Meaning he should get around 5 and 6 mil per. I'd put him in that tier below Gore and above Spiller.
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Execpt that Frank Gore is 31 years old and DeMarco Murray is 26.

You compare the two from last year, and even with Murray missing two games, he had nearly as many yards on less carries and matched him in touchdowns. Doubled his receptions yards as well.

Younger back, more productive at this point, he is going to go for more money than Frank Gore. Which is why I said you're looking at around 8 million depending on what kind of year he has this year. 6.5-8 million a year is probably what he is going to get.
 
Hoofbite said:
If he has a good year he'll likely cost more than most of the numbers in this thread. His base salary this year is $1.4M, and people are suggesting $3M is all he'll get?

I don't buy that you can just come up with another back who can do the same on a whim.

If Dallas doesn't go above $3M, somebody else will if only because averages are pointless.
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I'd think Dallas would offer him at least 5 or 5.5
 
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